Julio

5 minutes ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

Second one is BY's

 

This is a measure of accuracy on completed passes, hence “pinpoint”. The number I am referring to is the overall Quarterback rating solely under duress per PFF.

14 minutes ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

There isn't a throw he can't make..deadly accurate. Strong poise in the pocket, while not the runner cam was does have some escapability..also Reich stated in his presser he was looking for a qb who can throw from the pocket which is hard to do when your vision is obstructed. You have to be able to stand strong in the pocket and throw darts everything isn't going to be an out of the pocket throw, Russell Wilson did that for years in Seattle and look at him now..

 

If he stands so strong in the pocket, why does he have a 43.9 rating against pressure? 

And quite honestly, can’t wait until we can have a civil conversation in regards to this interview without it devolving into a spiteful debate.

Just now, jfra78 said:

 

 

Yeah, I saw that one - just didn’t see one with the entire interview but it makes sense to just keep it all in one place. 

Just now, BlackPanther22 said:

Aye man...idk if you've been paying attention but Allbright literally put out a last week saying he was hearing Young to the Panthers lol. Matter of fact he just tweeted something 30 minutes ago where he mocked Young to the Panthers. 

 

Also to the OP, there is already a thread with this Bryce interview in it if you weren't already aware. 

I was not! Sorry about that, I tried looking and could not find it. Mods, feel free to close.

A great watch, highly recommended if you haven’t already.

38 minutes ago, Ricky Prickles said:

Agreed, he seems to have the character and mental acuity that every team searches for in a QB. If this guy was even just 6'1, he would probably be the consensus number 1 by far. Very hard to not like him. Someone like that as a franchise player would most definitely rub off on others around him especially if he turns out to be any good.

If he was 6’1+ we probably wouldn’t have a shot at him

23 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

We have a healthy Corral, Eason, Dalton.

8 hours ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

Just stop @thespecialjuan

This also says that Young is the favorite ahead of Stroud.

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Bryce did more with less.  Interesting.   Alabama has always been known as having difficulty getting recruits there.   

Both are recruiting powerhouses, each have their own up/down years. This is one instance where OSU had better years than Bama. 

51 minutes ago, CamTheMan said:

Yeah you're absolutely correct. But 20% out of shotgun is still a few hundred plays a season and if he can't play under center then there will be problems. In my opinion, Young will be limited to West Coast offense his entire career no matter how the NFL evolves while Stroud has the skillset to play in almost any scheme. I see Young as an unnecessary risk with only marginally better upside than Stroud, personally.

I get where you’re coming from, I look at QBs differently from other prospects - it’s such a cerebral position. You grab the best overall football player that’s a proven commodity. The risk is chasing upside there.

Both are good, but Bryce did more with less. Stroud is going to have 3 of his linemen drafted in the first 2/3 rounds. Had two of his receivers go first round last year, one will be a first rounder this year and one will be a top 5 pick next year. Bryce’s best receiver was his running back this year and a Bama linemen will be lucky to get drafted in the 4th round.

1 hour ago, CamTheMan said:

Agreed. The lack of snaps under center, the time to throw, and the drop back depth really turn me off. Our offensive line is built for the run game and I’d like to stay that way, but I’m not sure how possible that is with Young. I understand he was great at throwing over the middle in college, but could it have been due to variables that are harder to replicate in the NFL (time to throw, drop back depth, etc.)?

I don’t really like the dink and dunk offenses and I feel like that’s what we’ll be limited to with Bryce. For those who are okay with that kind of offense, I can see why Bryce would be the guy.

I mentioned this in another post but the NFL is mostly run in the shotgun formation now. Doug Pederson/Nick Sirianni (who run schemes similar to Reichs) play out of shotgun 75/80% of the time. Reich’s last full year in Indy, they utilized shotgun 76% of their plays. 

10 hours ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

End of the day I'm hoping for a Lombardi party like we all should...I'm just saying one isn't head and shoulders above the other..well literally one is but you get it

Bryce Young very much is. For CJ Stroud to overtake Bryce Young, he would have had to play every game of the season like he did vs UGA. Before the UGA game, you saw Jared Goff ceiling comparisons for Stroud. (Some analysts stand by those even now)

So, let me get this straight….we are in agreement that we love the staff and it’s damn near perfect to bring up a rookie QB - except they’re absolutely wrong, horrific, doo-doo heads if they happen to pick what they perceive as the #1 QB that’s not to your couch GM liking.

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd say that's an overestimation, but either way, not in Reich's offense.

In 2021 (Reich’s last full season), the Colts ran shotgun 76 percent of their snaps. The lowest they ran it during his tenure was 64% in a year. The game is changing to a more horizontally focused game by the year.

“Deep drop backs” lol

80% of the current game is played in shotgun/spread

39 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

from Person this morning, regarding Richardson:
 

The Florida quarterback with the Cam Newton-like physiqueremains under consideration by the Panthers, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. 

You Young lovers better not get too comfortable. Lol

*Person made a note that this was only in the unlikely case they trade down.

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Fear of getting a penalty will not prevent him from getting hit hard by a defender.  A team will glady take a 15 yrd penalty to hit him so hard he's blowing snot bubbles.  It's too late after he gets crushed by having a 350 lb dlineman fall on him a full speed.  

Pretty sure most QBs would get injured this way. Don’t care if you’re 3 inches taller or weight 20lbs more, you’re getting hurt. It’s the pocket awareness and line adjustments to avoid poo like this that matter more.

1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

I still hope this is all speculation and Fitterer stays true to his word that they're not going to discuss the QB until they all come together next week.

With regards to an extra weapon - fug that, if they're going to risk their careers with Young you need to build an absolute wall in front of him. Dude does not handle pressure from NFL athletes well AT ALL. 

Think you have this backwards. CJ Stroud’s passing grade against pressure this year was 43.9. Bryce Young’s was 67.5. Bryce Young did much better against pressure against arguably better competition.

15 minutes ago, BrisbanePanther said:

Fair enough, but Arizona can't enter the picture until Monday and Denver can't beat Arizona's potential compensation. A potential pick between 3 and 5 this year is way better than maybe 28-32 and gives NO an even better slot than if they had their own pick this year. 

We all know that Loomis' real last name is Lucky. If AZ wants Payton, it's like no harm, no foul for him regarding their lost pick.

Then they probably either use the AZ pick on Stroud or trade the pick to another QB-desperate team (like us) and take Johnston after maybe signing Carr.

This isn’t up to the Saints or Loomis, it all depends on where Payton wants to go. He can just as easily retire again if he’s traded to a destination he doesn’t see as a good fit. At this point, it’s all lining up to Denver. 

33 minutes ago, BrisbanePanther said:

He's not going to Denver. Whatever comp they would've given to NO is with Seattle. If he goes anywhere it's to Phoenix. They'll send this year's and next year's first to NO, who needs it since they don't have one. 

 

They have SF’s first round pick this year from the Chubb trade to Miami. It’s already been stated by Rap that Saints won’t even let teams interview Payton unless they agree to their trade demands.

Just now, 4Corners said:

Julio u a foolio for posting this bro 

Meh, it’s not concrete content but found it kinda interesting