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18 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

Yeah, they both suck. But even just comparing their first two years, Ron has been the better coach. He actually won another game his sophomore year while Rhule got worse and lost an extra game.

Ron has had the same issues as Rhule. Ron just had more transcendent talent. If Rhule had a prime Cam, a prime Luke, and a solid defense I think Rhule could luck up into some good seasons too. Sitting by staring at the field like he's thinking about life like Rivera used to do. 

19 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

You could call Rivera a decent NFL coach. You could even call him a bad NFL coach. Either way he's still an NFL coach.

Matt Rhule is a college coach who's employed in the NFL...temporarily.

If he doesn't get to that point, then your argument is lost.

Is it though? Just because Owners don't know what they're doing, doesn't mean the argument is lost. NFL teams pick shitty players all the time in Drafts, does that make them more knowledgeable than us? Think not. 

Just now, CRA said:

yes, Ron is decent.  Because you have to compare Ron to his peers to find out what a good, bad, decent HC looks like. 

He has 5 playoff seasons and the only time he won only 5 games took firing him in season.   Ron > Rhule.  

Rhule gets discussed with a tier of HCs lower than Ron Rivera.   

Rivera should get discussed with Rhule. Sorry man. He's just as bad. Period. Hiring Mike Shula FFS? At least Rhule tried to hire Joe Brady. Rivera literally hired Mike Shula and made a Corvette into a Honda Civic with Cam Newton. 

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Check the math again and you'll find that three successful years are more than zero.

Rivera earned his additional years by improving. Rhule hasn't done that yet. Heck, there's an argument to be made that he got worse.

Rhule has basically one more year to try and show that he can do something in the NFL.

I wouldn't bet on him getting there 

Check the math again, and I bet you Rhule can suck 7 years out of 10 just as good as Rivera. But he won't get to that point. So it doesn't really matter. But thinking Rivera is so much better than Rhule when Rivera's been hot garbage longer than Rhule has is a bit hilarious to me. I know you're old and you got better things to do. So take care. 

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

5 postseason appearances.  

and Ron Rivera has never won 5 or fewer games in a full season as HC.  Matt Rhule has never won more than 5.

Ron > Rhule.  That's not a pro Ron statement.  It's just that Matt Rhule is garbage.  If and if you doubt that, just go listen to Rhule. 

Ron is a decent NFL HC.  Matt Rhule is a bad one.  The goal is to land a good HC. 

Ron is a decent NFL coach? If having 7 losing seasons out of 10 is decent. What's mediocre? Or trash? Because 7 losing seasons out of 10 is pretty freaking deplorable. I think both are pretty garbage. But saying Ron is better than Rhule? Yeah.........because he made the Playoffs twice with losing records. Yeah................

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I hate to go back to 5th grade math here, but 100% "sucking ass" is worse than 70%.

Rhules only had two years. Ron has had 10. I hate to do the math here, but having 10 seasons is *checks notes* 8 more seasons than Rhule will have. Saying Rhule is worse than a guy that's been bad for longer than 5 years is saying a lot. 

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Have you ever actually watched a game in the past two years?

Have you ever actually watched a Panthers game at all?

Sadly, I've watched every, single, game the past two years. To think Rivera is better than Rhule is fascinating to me. Both are trash. But thinking one is better than the other? That's some interesting poo. 

12 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, which was.....better. 

Here is a fact, Rivera's all time coaching record: 0.523(0.546 in CAR)

Matt Rhule: 0.303

 

Wow. That Rhule guy is good. You are right. He is so good he has had the worst two year start for a coach in franchise history(by a substantial margin).

Superb Owl!

Two seasons. I'm not a Rhule fan, but thinking a guy that's sucked two seasons in a row to start his tenure, is worse than a guy that has sucked 7 out of 10 seasons. Is a bit odd, no? Including last year too for Rivera. I mean, yikes. 

41 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Matt Rhule went 5-11, then 5-12.

You're not really helping your argument here.

7 losing seasons out of 10. Really the only argument I need here. To be fair. 

That's 70% of his tenure sucking ass. But I digress. 

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Matt, log off. 

I know. Those facts about Rivera sure do suck huh? Rivera went 6-10 and 7-9 in his first two seasons by the way. 

4 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

I don’t want Watson to save Rhule’s job

Is what it is. 

21 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Florida averages over 4 a game.

We'll see what happens tonite against another division leader in a Colorado Avs team which averages 3.91 per game.  

Lyon's not starting though. Raanta is. Which I'm fine with. It's Lyon I'm not okay with. 

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I have to think of a deal for Watson was on the table they would've hung onto Wagner.

Bingo. Steelers are the only threat to me (even that might be BS). Since Miami has bowed out, I believe. 

20 minutes ago, Stuart Smith said:

If I was a betting man my money would be on Seattle. 

Doesn't make any sense, since they got rid of the reason they won 7 games. Then released the best defensive player they had. Just seems a bit ridiculous. 

36 minutes ago, Wes Mantooth said:

Don't understand your beef with Lyon, in the two games he's played up (W vs STL and OTL vs FL) he played pretty damn well.

Uh. He allowed 4 goals vs Florida. That's pretty damn well? 

There's two positives from the Watson thing.

If everything works out Friday, we will have a chance to get Watson. And very well will get Watson. Thus, the fan base will want to watch games and be rejuvenated. 

If that doesn't happen, and we don't trade for Watson. We will suck this year, and Rhule will be fired. I'm not seeing how this isn't a win/win for the fanbase as a whole. 

11 hours ago, ickmule said:

No. 

7 losing seasons out of 10 seasons. 70% of the time. His teams are trash. I think Rhule can do that, maybe even better if teams kept giving him opportunities even though he's proven nothing. 

15 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Have you actually looked at their career winning percentage?

It's easy to win when you have all time talents at certain positions and Rivera still struggled. 7 winning seasons out of 10 is freaking putrid. If Rhule got 10 years, best believe he could muck up and win 3 seasons out of 10. 30 percent of the time is again, really trash, but hey. Keep thinking Rivera is better all you want. LOL. 

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Name one Matt Rhule season with more than 5 wins. I'll wait.

He's had just two years man. Sure he sucks, but 7 out of 10 is freaking God awful. 

You do realize he had losing seasons 70 percent of his coaching career so far? Rhule sucks, but that's freaking trash. 

3 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

You two are arguing about what makes better manure: cow dung or horse dung.

At least Rhules only had two years of being garbage. Rivera's had 7 out of 10. That's freaking wild. 

Just now, uncfan888 said:

I don't like Rivera. I'll never forgive him for wasting cams prime years. But rhule sucks too. 

I don't like Rivera either, good sir. But lets call a spade a spade. Both are and were garbage. 

That man can't get above .500 with Washingtons incredible defense. At least our defense is average at best. Even if Rhule put it together. 

1 minute ago, uncfan888 said:

Rhule is dog poo though. He is totally clueless 

And I got facts to backup what I said about Rivera. Rhule and him are basically neck and neck in my opinion. 7 seasons with a losing record out of 10 is fuging deplorable.

18 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Rivera coached circles around Rhule in the WFT game last season. 

And? Hubert Davis coached circles around Coach K last Saturday. Is he better than Coach K? LOL. 

6 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

at what?

Rivera's had 7 losing seasons in his what? 10 years as coach? Yeah...............