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1 minute ago, frankw said:

 

If he wants to play on the west coast the Seahawks can offer the same with their own situation. Pete Carroll won't be coaching that much longer. Ya'll might not want to hear but Seattle is a much more desirable location than Charlotte the same as Miami was. That should be your first big hint about how Deshaun feels about it. These things do matter.

Oh yeah. I'm sure Seattle is so much better than being 4 hours away from where he was born and raised. Yeah. Seattle with their raining every, single, day of the year. The most suicides per capita in the US for a city is just so damn wonderful compared to Charlotte, NC. Not to mention the fact that Seattle has a horrible homeless population now. Yeah man. Seattle is so grand. 

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Rhule will likely be gone either way. He's over his head and Tepper is probably quietly swallowing that bitter pill.

I mean, without Watson, it's a given he'll be fired after next year. Our QB situation is hot ass without Watson. With Watson, in our not so great division? If Watson plays all 17 games? Eh. Maybe. 

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It doesn't matter what players Seattle does or doesn't have to offer. At the end of the day, Watson has a ton of control over his situation via the no trade clause. If Seattle and Carolina both have offers on the table and Carolina's is better but Watson says he'll only waive his no trade clause for Seattle then it doesn't matter that Carolina's offer wa better.

It's already been reported he will waive his no trade clause. So that point seems to be gone. 

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm failing to understand how what you're describing is win/win.

Because Rhule will be gone if we don't trade for Watson. That's how. 

I mean, since I've been on here I've been told how Rhule is garbage. Would that not be a win if he's fired after next season? We get Watson, that's a win. We don't get Watson. Rhule is fired (eventually). That's a win. Right? 

Just now, frankw said:

If he chose Miami last time odds are he will choose a better destination should the opportunity arise. Fans spent the last three months dogging Matt Rhule 24 hours a day now they're trying to sell him to Watson

Yeah, no. His options aren't that plentiful. Is Miami Seattle now? Because that's basically his only REAL option other than Carolina. And Seattle doesn't have the assets player wise the Texans covet. But hey man, because last year he wanted to go to Miami. That will make him want to go to a Seattle team that is in just as bad, if not a worse situation than Carolina is in. And a 10X better Division at that. LOL. 

Let me stop bringing facts to an opinion party here. 

I said this last week. I'll say it again now. It's a win/win for the fan base whatever happens. If we trade for Watson. We have a reason to be excited for this season. Instead of going in knowing it's going to be an unmitigated disaster. If we don't trade for Watson. This season is going to be garbage as we all know and Rhule will be fired after we watch this shitt show for another year. For a record 4th straight season where we will win 5 games or less. 

12 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Just watched Keeeppounding_TV's latest episode. He made some good points that the Texans dont really have a need for someone like Jeremy Chinn, and they would have our 6th pick and their 3rd. So whatever we are offering them would have to be their weakpoints on their roster:

1. IDL
2. Pass rusher
3. WR
4. RB
5. QB (of course)

Sounds like a combo of Brown, Burns, McCaffrey, or Moore. With a sprinkle of HOPE from us that Darnold is included. 

25 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

You're stupid for that gif. HAHAHA. 

11 hours ago, Harbingers said:

What is there to piss and cry about? We got the best team in hockey. 

I can't complain. I don't like calling up Lyon in Emergency situations for the young beast. But other than that. I'm good. 

5 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

Watson or no Watson the Panthers aren't going to be watchable.... what's the point of a "franchise" QB if you don't have any assets to build a team around him.

I think Watson will generate viewership better than whatever the hell that was last year and the year before. 

Didn't play our best. Still got the W. Can't say that would've happened early 2010's. 

This team is good. Do we need more consistent scorers vs a team like TB like Bucci suggested on the broadcast? Maybe. But for now. If we don't make a trade, we just can hope. 

Oh, that guy got in his feelings REAL quick. How cute. 

1 minute ago, joemac said:

But just think, we could use one of those first round picks we’re gonna trade to get a QB like Paxton Lynch, Christian Ponder, Brandon Weeden or Johnny Manziel. 

Oh come on. That sounds so great. 

3 minutes ago, Actionman0z said:

Lol. Exactly. Jesus people on here are borderline retarded. 

Yeah, 3 years ago the Steelers lost Big Ben. Had one of the best defenses, and a solid-good offensive line. But trash at QB. What did that do for them? Checks notes. 8-8. So..............Yeah. Do we ignore that too? 

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

On offense.. Metcalf and Fant.. 

Other then that they don't have any good defender on a rookie deal..

There Oline is just as bad as ours and older..

No great pass rusher or lock down CB..

What roster are you looking at??

 

I legit laughed at this. 

5 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Seattle's management/coaching staff has produced a 9 year winning streak over the last decade.

Carolina?

Matt Rhule hasn't even figured out how to stop the run, score in the third quarter or produce a winning season, much less back-to-back winning seasons.

Tepper and Rhule are rank amateurs compared to Seattle when it comes to managing an NFL franchise. 

That should be a matter of significant concern for any franchise QB contemplating his next move.

I guess we'll just ignore last year then? And talk about the past? If that's the case, the Cowboys back in the 90's won a lot of Super Bowls. Should he go there? This isn't the Seattle team that went toe to toe every year with Cam, Luke, and others. They suck maybe worse than Carolina does right now. Come on man. 

Just now, WOW!! said:

How are they ready to win?? 

They are the worst team in that division.. That Division has 3 defenses better then theirs and 2 younger QB..

Oh and the Super bowl champions prime for another run..

And our Division has no QB's worth a damn right now other than a 37 year old Matty Water. Yeah.............

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

He would literally be the best QB in a division with all the teams 2 or 3 years from rebuilding.. Saints and Tampa are older teams tight to the cap.. And Atlanta is still kicking the Ryan can down the street..

This is another card people are missing here. At this point in time Tampa has no QB. NO's starting QB is either Jameis or Taysom Hill, and Atlanta's starting QB is a 37 year old Matt Ryan with no future prospects at the QB position. We would LITERALLY have the best QB in the Division immediately. 

1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

If Deshaun wants to win, Seattle is the choice. 

They've already got additional picks from trading Wilson.

Seattle is an organization w/proven management and coaches that have an extensive record of winning.  

Or chose the Panthers. 

A highly dysfunctional organization with a four year losing streak.  Panthers management were recently described as "a poo show" by an NFL executive.  The team already has a deficit of picks for 2022 and is willing to give away what little talent they possess (leaving the teams cupboards bare for years to come).

If Deshaun's primary concern is winning, he'll choose Seattle.  If Deshaun primary concern is power and control (over a poo show) he'll choose Carolina.

 

You make the call D. Watson

Seattle won 7 games this past year. Has arguably a worst roster, and just traded two of the players that helped the most to get those 7 wins. Sorry man. I don't see how you think this. Seattle hasn't won anything of significance since the early 2010's. 

Gosh. I don't know how this team will replace stellar players like Brian "I don't like to play the run" Burns. Or Derrick "I'm pretty average" Brown. That would so gut this incredible roster from the Title run we are so close to. SARCASM. 

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They picked up three players in that Wilson trade themselves including a good Young starting TE and a starting DL. They wouldn't be nearly as gutted in capital as we would be.

I meant trade wise for us. We have players they want. Seattle doesn't. And whatever we "gut" from this team is what it is to me. We won 5 games with the same roster last year with no QB. This year, if we don't trade for Watson it would be the same. 4 years in a row with 5 wins or less is an unmitigated disaster. 

Just now, WOW!! said:

Plus a way harder division...

Yeah. Everything we've heard the past two days is Carolina is the perfect trade partner for Houston. Not sure what Seattle would be to them. Because Carolina is willing to part with players. I'm not sure Seattle has the players to part with. Rashad Penny? Tyler Lockett? LOL. 

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Wagner cut is confusing if they trade for Watson. Outside of that though, they can actually give up the haul of picks to Houston without completely gutting their draft capital due to the Wilson trade.

Yeah, but don't they want a player or two as well? Will Seattle part ways with Metcalf? Who on their defense is worth two shitts to trade? Some could argue isn't Carroll on a hot seat too? Plus he's 70? I mean, Seattle isn't exactly paradise compared to Carolina right now. 

Just now, Toomers said:

Albright? The dork who trashed Cam at every opportunity when he was drafted and claimed Nolan Nawrocki was dead on about Cam and his fake smile. What makes him credible and DJ(former scout and employee of NFL network) not. Because you want to believe one and not the other. 

Don't really care about Cam Newton's draft talk 11 years later. But sure if you want to reference something from 11 years ago. Be my guest. Nolan Nawrocki isn't even a person in the media anymore. LOL. But alrighty. Sure. 

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

If Seattle wants him they're probably the best positioned to make the deal and still be able to build around him given the haul they just got for Wilson.

Eh. They seem to be on the rebuilding front letting go of Wagner, no? I mean, their offensive line is still garbage. Their defense is worse than Carolinas. And arguably got rid of the two players those mostly contributed to them getting their 7 wins. I could be wrong on this though.