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    Rhule was trying to "hold" the lead today ?

    in Carolina Panthers

    Posted · Edited by panthers320

    14 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

    This concerns me more than the "holding the lead" nonsense.

    Because in the finite amount of practice time where we are trying to evaluate who should make the roster, it is crazy they didnt spend time working on the silent count for the 1st preseason game. Absolutely crazy that wasnt one of the first things we put in for the 1st preseason game. Everyone know preseason games are historically loud and a silent count is an absolute must.

    Verge's 2021 Mock Draft

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    On 4/19/2021 at 2:22 PM, Verge said:

    I know you all have been waiting for it, and I have finally compiled my mock draft. I will be doing the entire first round and then the rest of the Panthers picks. This is based on what I have been told and my own evaluations. Before I start some things I should note, this will be the least accurate year for mock drafts for I think everyone, so nothing is written in stone. As another note, a lot of teams are going to opt for players who did not opt out last year and that could very well be a draft night trend, so watch out for that.  Let's get it. 

    1. Jacksonville Jaguars
    Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE 
    Nat's notes:  Obviously lol 

    2. New York Jets
    Zach Wilson, QB, BYU
    Nat's notes:  Other QBs were explored, but they felt comfortable here with Zach for the last month or so. 

    3. San Francisco 49ers
    Mac Jones, QB, ALA 
    Nat's notes:  I have been saying this since they traded up, Mac is the guy. Internet scouts (including me) severely underrate the level at which he played QB this year. The more tape you watch on him the more it makes sense. Mac Jones is the #3 QB on multiple boards, including ours. 

    4. Atlanta Falcons
    Trey Lance, QB, NDSU 
    Nat's notes:  They could look to trade down and still take Lance a little later, but I think ultimately if you like Lance, which as I have said they do, you sit here at 4 and take him. He is the perfect fit for this offense, and gives him the ability to sit in learn for a year and flip Ryan for an early pick next year. Stonks. If they do manage to trade down, I think the #4 pick will be Lance regardless of who picks here. 

    5. Cincinnati Bengals
    Jamarr Chase, WR, LSU 
    Nat's notes:  Obviously this could be Sewell, but you get the sentiment that they want to recreate that elite connection between Burrow and Chase. They need to improve their down the field passing game, and Chase does this for you. They will obviously swing back in the 2nd and grab an offensive lineman in a deep class. 

    6. Miami Dolphins
    Kyle Pitts, TE, FLO 
    Nat's notes:  It's who they have wanted this whole time, and they sit here and get him. Elite level talent and a top three player in this draft. Slam dunk for the Dolphins who are playing chess. 

    7. **Trade** Denver Broncos
    Justin Fields, QB, OHST 
    Nat's notes:  Pssst the Broncos want a QB and are going to try and trade up to get one. Both of the teams ahead of them stay put to take the top offensive skill position guys, so Denver moves up as early as possible to get their guy, which is Justin Fields. If the Lions do stick here, I think the pick will be Sewell.

    8. Carolina Panthers
    Penei Sewell, OT, ORE 
    Nat's notes:  This is obviously a dream scenario and one that as you can see, could easily play out. Slam dunk pick for a team that has been looking for their starting LT since Jordan Gross retired. If Detroit sticks at 7 and picks Sewell, Slater would make a ton of sense as well. Protect Sam Darnold or give him a weapon (Waddle/Smith) 

    9. Detroit Lions
    Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA 
    Nat's notes:  Here we are crossing our fingers hoping Detroit does not stick at 7 and take Sewell. If they manage to trade down, I expect them to take the top weapon they can to help out Jared Goff, that is Waddle. 

    10. Dallas Cowboys
    Patrick Surtain, CB, ALA 
    Nat's notes:  I imagine Slater would be awfully tempting here but you have to help out a secondary that was burned all year. Surtain is a perfect fit and an all star at the position. 

    11. New York Giants
    Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, GEO 
    Nat's notes:  Maybe the first big surprise of the draft? Edge is their biggest need, and Azeez is one of the best edge available, being super versatile helps pus the card in his favor. Slater has to be considered here as well. 

    12. Philadelphia Eagles
    Devonta Smith, WR, ALA
    Nat's notes:  I know they wanted to trade up to go get Wilson, and they want to trade up for Waddle here as well, but with neither of those happening Smith falls into their lap for a very sensible selection. Surround Hurts with talent and give him the best chance to succeed. 

    13. Los Angeles Chargers
    Rashawn Slater, OT, NW 
    Nat's notes:  Chargers are doing the happy dance if Slater falls to them, and they run the card up to fill in the massive hole at LT. If he is gone expect someone like Darrisaw to fill the spot. 

    14. Minnesota Vikings
    Christian Darrisaw, OT, VT 
    Nat's notes:  Speaking of Darrisaw, Vikings fill out the LT position to help protect Kirk Cousins and get a starter for the next 10 years. 

    15. New England Patriots 
    Jaycee Horn, CB, SC 
    Nat's notes: Patriots lock up their secondary in case of departures of Gilmore or Jackson, and create a deadly mix in the secondary this year. Zaven Collins in another ones to watch here. 

    16. Arizona Cardinals 
    Greg Newsome, CB, NW 
    Nat's notes: They have to be steaming that Horn went one pick before, but Newsome is an excellent consolation prize as a lengthy corner who can jump in and start right away. 

    17. Las Vegas Raiders 
    Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G, USC 
    Nat's notes: They have signaled what they are doing after cutting half their offensive line. Tucker provides elite versatility and can plug and play anywhere on the offensive line. 

    18. Miami Dolphins
    Jaelan Philips, DE, MIA 
    Nat's notes: They get a local kid who is ultra productive and the best pure defensive end in the draft. 

    19. Washington Football Team 
    Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB, ND 
    Nat's notes: Slam dunk pick for Ron as they nab the best LB in the draft, they are hoping he doesn't go earlier than this. 

    20. Chicago Bears
    Teven Jenkins, OT, OKST 
    Nat's notes: Makes a ton of sense here, can immediately come in and upgrade their run game to be a mauling bunch. Would not be surprised with the shock of the night by taking a Davis Mills or Kellen Mond here, I know they like both. 

    21. Indianapolis Colts
    Kwity Paye, DE, MICH
    Nat's notes: Fits perfectly with that defense and gives them a starting edge rusher. Look for them to target tackle in the second round. 

    22. Tennessee Titans
    Rashod Bateman, WR, MINN 
    Nat's notes:  Farley has to be tempting here, but I worry about the medicals. I know they like Bateman who will be an immediate #2 opposite AJ Brown. 

    23. New York Jets
    Landon Dickerson, G/C, ALA 
    Nat's notes: Protecting Wilson is the priority over getting an edge or corner here. Dickers in a big bodied elite level guard talent. Take him and run 

    24. Pittsburgh Steelers
    Najee Harris, RB, ALA 
    Nat's notes:  They are desperate to make the run game work. Tackle would make more sense but Najee immediately puts some juice in the run game as their RB1 

    25. Jacksonville Jaguars 
    Christian Barmore, DT, ALA 
    Nat's notes: They desperately need interior help and Barmore fits that grade. 

    26. Cleveland Browns
    Gregory Rosseau, DE, MIA
    Nat's notes: Browns take a risk with an opt out player, but cannot pass up the size and physical abilites Rosseau brings. 

    27. Baltimore Ravens
    Jayson Oweh, EDGE, PENN 
    Nat's notes: Ravens take the BPA with a Danielle Hunter clone 

    28. New Orleans Saints
    Caleb Farley, CB, VT 
    Nat's notes: Saints hit a home run on a health risk that fills a need. Will he fall this far? Only time will tell 

    29. Green Bay Packers 
    Asante Samuel Jr., CB, FST 
    Nat's notes: Competes right away for the #2 corner spot and makes the secondary a lot more rangy. 

    30. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (trade)
    Joe Tryon, DE, WAS 
    Nat's notes: Comes in and provides depth right away and helps out in an already dominant pass rush. 

    31. Kansas City Chiefs 
    Liam Eichenberg, OT, ND
    Nat's notes: They obviously need offensive line help, and Eichenberg can compete for the LT spot right away. 

    32. Buffalo Bills
    Travis Etienne, RB, CLE 
    Nat's notes: Traded down and still got who they wanted. Etienne will be the immediate starter in Buffalo. 


     

    Here is the full version of my first round mock. I will be following up later with the Panthers 7 round plan. 

    If somehow Pitts, Chase and Slater are all there, who do you think we go with?

    Verge's 2021 Mock Draft

    in Carolina Panthers

    Posted

    4 hours ago, Verge said:

    Panthers rd 1 (8): 
    Penei Sewell, OT, OE 

    Panthers rd 2 (39): 
    Aaron Robinson, CB, UCF 

    Panthers rd 3 (73): 
    Tyree Gillespie, S, (MIZZ) 

    Panthers rd 4 (113): 
    Frank Darby, WR, ARST

    Panthers rd 5 (151): 
    Deommodore Lenoire, CB, ORE

    Panthers rd 6 (193): 
    Jacob Harris, TE/WR, UCF 

    Panthers rd 6 (222): 
    Alaric Jackson, G, IOW
     

    You think 2 CBs after drafting 2 last year and having Jackson and signing Bouye and Melvin?

    Shaq and the draft.

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    Posted · Edited by panthers320

    29 minutes ago, Trainwreck said:

    KJ Wright, Jayon Brown, Kyle Van Noy, Corey Littleton, Dre Greenlaw. This is from last year. I wouldn’t say that had an “amazing season”. Neither did Shaq. But these guys are as good if not some are better than Shaq. 

    KJ Wright wasnt resigned and is a free agent, Jayon Brown had 154 tackles last year, Van Noy had 69 tackles and 6 sacks (then got cut), Greenlaw the 5th round pick from 2 years ago??

    Rashawn Slater

    in 2023 NFL Draft

    Posted

    I said it in another thread and I stand by it, Slater did not look impressive to me especially in the 4th quarter of the Ohio St game (if you actually watch the game and not just his highlights from the game). And that is the game that everyone raves about. He was considered a 2nd round pick by multiple people then sat out a year and suddenly became a top 10 pick. I think he will be a good player but not worthy of #8 and not worth Darrisaw/Jenkins + other picks. 

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    Posted

    5 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

    To be fair, I don't watch a ton of tape on these players, but Waddle's numbers dropped every year, even as Bama's offensive production went up. On the other hand Smith's production went up every year. I think I would prefer Smith or Chase over Waddle. Waddle reminds me a bit of that Clemson receiver that came out a while ago, he ended up just being a return specialist.

    Just my observation.

    You mean they dropped last year when he only played 5 games due to an injury? Look at his stats from last year on a per game basis. He was on pace for 75/1670/12 before he got hurt.

    Walker Little?

    in 2023 NFL Draft

    Posted

    What are people's take on Walker Little? Is he worth the risk in the 2nd? He was looking like a stud in 2018 before he got hurt in 2019 then opted out. He may be rusty but could be a steal.

    What are we doing in the draft?

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    7 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

    Nah man you said multiple scouts had him as a day 2 pick.  Normally how this works is when you proclaim something like that you have to show your work.  Show me where multiple scouts had him round 2 preseason. 

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/27/way-too-early-nfl-2021-mock-draft

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/insider/story/_/id/29292331/2021-nfl-mock-draft-todd-mcshay-early-predictions-all-32-first-round-picks

    https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2020/10/09/way-too-early-in-the-2020-season-2021-nfl-mock-draft/

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888826-2021-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-way-too-early-predictions

    https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2020/08/04/touchdown-wires-way-too-early-2021-mock-draft/4/

     

    Here are 5 Way Too Early 2021 Mock Drafts from 2020 and none of them have Slater in the 1st round.

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