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Some random person on Twitter threw out the trade of Darnold, #23 and 5th rounder for #8

2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

What do we know about Darnold?  He was good in college, has struggled for 3 years in NY.  Threw too many interceptions, but when you are one-dimensional, always playing from behind, passing is tougher. He will be 24, and he is on a first-round rookie contract for 1 more season.

So what would he do with a better coach, OL, running game, and defense? 

Better. 

Is better enough?

I looked it up and he threw 26 TDs and 13 INTs in 14 games in his last year at USC including 2 INTs in each of the first 3 games. For his career at USC he had 22 INTs in 27 games (24 starts). 

SEATTLE SEAHAWKS: WHERE TO START…

Go take a look for yourself. I don’t think there’s been a worse drafting team over the span. D.K. Metcalf in 2019 and landing Chris Carson in the seventh are really the only saving graces for what’s been a messy five years of picks. It's almost incomprehensible after how dominantly the Seahawks drafted from 2010-2012.

This comes as absolutely no surprise:

CAROLINA PANTHERS: ANYTHING AFTER THE SECOND ROUND

Marty Hurney wasn’t fired for his draft record, as he did fine in early rounds. It was Rounds 3-plus where they simply have struggled to find competency. Arguably the best one of the bunch has been Corn Elder, who earned a 68.5 grade this season on 411 snaps as a slot corner. If that’s your biggest mistake, though, it’s been a solid span of drafts.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-the-biggest-draft-mistake-for-each-team-in-the-past-5-years

Also someone who wants Slater please explain to me how Walker Little who (from what I've seen) was ranked higher than Slater at this point last year and was considered a 1st round pick by most people and also sat out of 2020 has now slid to late 2nd/early 3rd. The knock on him is that for OT you really want to see consistency and sitting out a year will really hurt OT, yet somehow Slater does the same thing and goes from fringe 1st/2nd to a top 10 pick. Little does have some injury concerns so I get the slide but I dont get the meteoric rise of Slater. 

Are you just saying you want Slater because McShay has him ranked as the 2nd best OT (Kiper has him classified as a G)? Or is there something else you actually like about him?

If you watch the 4th quarter of the Ohio St game specifically he is not that impressive. He made some good blocks but almost just as many bad ones. He got beat inside on a swim move and the DE batted the pass down, got stood up at the LOS on a run play that went his way for negative yardage, got blocked into his own offensive lineman by a defender, has a DE run right around him and blowup a running play in the back field, pulled and completely whiffed on a block that lead to his guy blowing up the play in the backfield, had another DE run around him and get pressure on the QB. He looked much much better in the 1st 3 quarters but all of that happened in 1 quarter and in a game that all the analysts are pointing to as the reason why he is good. 

Here is the tape vs Ohio St. He looked good pass blocking but was beat a few times at the end. Once the RB helped and the other the DE batted it down. He did not look good run blocking. Got called for holding, a few times his guy was making tackles at the line of scrimmage, a few times just whiffing on trying to block someone. 

It's crazy a guy is considered not a 1st round pick and maybe the 4th or 5th best tackle then sits out a year and suddenly jumps to a top 10 pick. The only thing I read about him is he doesn't have the measurables but he locked down Chase Young in 1 game. 

12 minutes ago, PandaMan said:

Why the Eagles?  They still have Wentz (at least for now) and drafted Jordan Love last year.  If they trade Wentz I think they’ll roll with Love.  But yeah, I was thinking Lance would be there at 8, but the closer we get to the draft I’m just not sure.  I really want Lance. 

The Packers drafted Love, the Eagles have Hurts

8 minutes ago, BrizzMachete said:

I don’t love analytics . There’s a place for it but not the end all be all . And i call bs that thru two seasons he only looked off the primary 7 times . Better yet how do they even know who the primary receivers is if they don’t have the playbook ? And if all is true you can def fix this problem with a good coaching staff . Fields have something you can’t teach tho and that toughness and I’ll take that with his other flaws 

They said only 2020. It could be that whoever he looked at first they considered the primary. They also note that it could be just that the WRs were so open he didnt need to go through progressions either. I have watched a handful of Ohio St games as a spectator and not to analyze them but he certainly passes the eye test. 

16 minutes ago, BrizzMachete said:

They forcing this Zach Wilson kid a lil too hard . But poo on Fields over two bad games lol i don’t get it . But but but the Indiana game . 

Not advocating for Wilson or this trade but just found this piece on Fields and thought it was interesting.

Those who love analytics will love this — or maybe they won’t. One team who has already broken down every pass thrown by Justin Fields in 2020 said in private conversations he looked off the primary target on just seven throws.  That’s under three percent of his passes.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-draft-free-agency-news-rumors-2021-senior-bowl/

It depends on who you listen to, some say Slater doesnt have the measurables to be a OT and will have to bump inside to G or C. I'd rather trade back and get Christian Darrisaw

Haha if only this was realistic. I traded from 8 to 5 then 5 to 9 then 9 to 5 then 5 to 12 then 12 to 6. Then traded back into 8 then 8 to 19 then 19 to 13 then 13 to 18. some how turned our 8th pick in to 6, 18, 35, 48, a 1st in 2022 and 2 2nds in 2022. This GM stuff is easy!

If Samuel leaves, anyone know much about Felton as a replacement? Would it be better to get someone so similar to Samuel or go with a more polished WR?

1 minute ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

i would take a few first rounders if they wanted to dump his salary on us tbh

I was typing the same thing up when but you beat me to it lol

I wasnt a fan of him coming out of college and Im not a fan of him now. You may be able to convince me for #6 and a future 1st

and this

Going so hard after Stafford does not lead me to believe they really like Bridgewater.

This is the same guy who said this...

29 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

I liked the article, but a quick peek at overthecap shows that cutting JJ Watt saves them $17.5M and cutting Brandon Cooks saves another $12M, with $0 dead cap for both.  That's $29.5 off the books. The article says that they're $23.5M over if they trade Watson. That's $6M left over to help sign the rookies they get. #8, #39, their 3rd and 2 4ths would go a long way towards keeping them competitive on the cheap.

Cutting David Johnson adds another $8M too

They don't have us making a pick. Instead have us trade for Watson. 

Panthers get: Deshaun Watson
Texans get: No. 8 overall, 2021 second-round pick, 2022 first-round pick, 2022 fourth-round pick, CB Troy Pride Jr.

Done and Done!

CBS has a trading for Stafford. They don't say everything we give up other than a 2nd this year. 

In this scenario, I am envisioning Carolina trades for Matthew Stafford. Detroit picks up a second round pick after parting with theirs in the trade up for Justin Fields. Kyle Pitts comes in to give that offense another mismatch.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2021-nfl-mock-draft-lions-falcons-trade-up-after-panthers-acquire-matthew-stafford/

39 minutes ago, BrianS said:

It's actually a REALLY smart pick.

Matt Ryan will be 36 when the next season starts.  The contract has an out after 2021.  It doesn't get any clearer.  Take a rookie, let him learn behind Ryan.  If Ryan continues to play at a high level and it looks like a quick turnaround for them, they stick with him until 2023.  If not, they have their heir apparent from a great QB class sitting there.

Too many fans (and people in general for that matter) get confused between what they want to happen and what is actually realistic to expect.  For obvious reasons, all Panthers fans would like the Falcons and Lions to hold on to their picks and choose any player who is not a QB.  That's what we want.

The reality of the situation is that both of those teams need to replace an aging franchise QB.  The QB class this year is considered incredibly strong.  These teams have very high draft picks.  There will be a good prospect available.

The only way either team passes is if they dig up something on the players they have available when they are on the clock.  I would be VERY wary at pick eight if any of the top QB's are still on the board.  It could easily mean that someone found something that spooked them.

Just like everyone should have been wary of Aaron Rodgers falling...

If thats how it plays out in front of us, I absolutely want to trade back.

I havent seen enough of Slater but from what I read he may have to move inside. If that is the case, #8 is too high for a guard/center.

I would say Teddy with a 1st round rookie sitting behind him.

38 minutes ago, onmyown said:

What are the chances of drafting a QB in all 7 rounds and having one workout?

because in madden this strat is flawless

In Madden you sim the draft, figure out which qb is best, dont save, quit then restart and boom you know when to draft your qb. 
 

hmm maybe i should have interviewed for the gm job