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  1. sterling was inconsistent as hell last year... England have a lot of those... Walcott, Chamberlain, Ross Barkley just to name few...  poo, last season Manchester City almost bought Ross Barkley for £50m... Dude got injured and still not recovered.

    BTW, thank you for confirming how grown rule quota... Many here think it's a myth.  Arsenal purchased Chambers last year for £16m after Chambers started in only 10 games.

    How could you forget Jack Wilshere? He's practically the poster child!

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  2. Chelsea bid £26m for Everton 21 year old CB John Stones...

    damn...  English talent is overpriced as hell.

    I believe i read somewhere Re: the Sterling deal that BPL teams have to have a certain quota of English players on the roster or something like that and with England lacking good homegrown talent that is driving the price up.

    EDIT: Found it. Champions League rules state that of the 25 players on the roster, 8 have to have trained in the team's country at some point between the ages of 16 and 21.

    City seems to put an emphasis more on the transfer market than player development, so they needed to overpay a player who filled that requirement. Doesn't help that English talent rarely gets to Sterling's level nowadays.

  3. Apparently Spurs don't have a place to play 2017-2018 season and Wembley refused to let them lease it for one year.  Chelsea also refused... Arsenal is considering the offer (depending on a fee).  If offer goes thru, all Spurs home games will be at Emirates Stadium.... 

    Why wouldn't Wembley want to make some money? Do they even have a primary tenant? And with White Hart Lane, the Emirates, and Stamford Bridge, is a 90K stadium with no primary tenant really necessary?

    Also is the new WHL London's bid for the NFL hence the emphasis on football specifications?

    Spurs paying Arsenal for rent would be hilarious, though. Wonder if they'd change the look of the stadium a la Metlife for Jets/Giants.

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    You'll be looking for tall buildings when you realize Curry isn't coming won't you??? 

     

    Or we will watch people make excuses for the FO when his talent comes to fruition ... 

    Name one player drafted by this franchise who has flourished elsewhere in the NBA...

  5. OK CB i went thru all six pages  of the Summer  League thread ..  You contributed 3-4 post and not once did you mention how meaningless the games were or how Frank's performances meant nothing... 

    You did and I quote  .... wanted Frank to keep those summer league  performances "up"....  

    Yep yep. He's doing what he's supposed to do as a high draft pick playing amongst scrubs. That's noteworthy because Vonleh was a deer in headlights in Vegas last season.

    Nowhere have I explicitly said Frank will end up better than Vonleh. In fact you will find that I hated the Vonleh trade.

    I'm not saying you're wrong, you're just jumping to conclusions that can't be made for at least several more months.

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    win what exactly?? 

     

    Whatever you have to do to make this a good decision in your mind is fine by me... Lol

    Try to discredit all his solid performances all year if you like... 

    A year that hasn't even started.

    When we say we enjoy the Summer League it's out of the sheer irony of taking meaningless games between scrubs seriously since it's our only basketball fix before November. We didn't mean to actually take the games seriously!

  7. Good match up.. All night.. Towns showed why he was the 1st pick and Vonleh showed the huge mistake Cho made.. Smh...  Minnesota also has Payne he look good to.. 

     

    Player A: 29 MPG, 32% FG, 1-10 3 PT, 69% FT, 9.5 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 3.8 APG

    Player B: 25 MPG, 56% FG, 80% FT, 13.3 PPG, 4.7 APG, 0.7 APG

    A = D'Angelo Russell through 4 games

    B = Maurice N'dour through 3 games

    Not trying to say it was the right move but rarely can anything be judged accurately on a summer league performance. Vonleh has had an entire year of professional training in the world's best basketball league. He SHOULD be miles ahead of undrafted players from low mid-major colleges playing on a 2nd division squad in Estonia.

  8. Hopefully in the form of the FO getting their head out of their own butt. How much are we predicted to have next season? I am going to look and see if any good names will be out there for us next year.

    I think we avoid making big splashes next season save for re-signing MKG in anticipation of a possible Curry free agency. If that falls through we would be looking at yet another rebuild. And who knows what happens if we miss the playoffs THIS year?

    This is why getting little to no future return for the assets we had was a bad move regardless of how much better the roster is right now. We don't have very much youth to fall back on going forward.

  9. After much time reflecting, I am pissed at the Hornets FO for not resigning Biz. Biz with Frank would have been amazing. Frank's average defense with Al's subpar does not make sense. Biz is not a primary ball handler/scorer but someone who cleans the boards and who has above average defensive abilities. How about we trade Al to Toronto for Biz so we can free up cap space? If we are forming a more versatile and athletic roster then Al should be moved now.

    Biz was not re-signed because in order to do that we would have had to forfeit one of our exceptions. Defense aside, the need at backup point right now is far greater than a rim protector off the bench when we'vealready loaded the frontcourt.

    Yeah, it sucks that Al is still here, but they're banking on him at least making somewhat of a resurgence. His next contract depends on it. I think the FO realizes how and why he underperformed last season and if he can't turn it around at the very least I see us moving on next season if not dealing him at the deadline. The FO is very tight lipped so who knows if we've tried to do that this season?

  10. not defending him or the name per se. At least I'm not. I'm defending the right to speak freely, no matter how offensive. That includes calling the team you own by any name you choose. If one person doesn't have that right, no one does. 

    And that's great, but if you're going to do that you need to understand the backlash you're going to receive as a result. That's all this is.

    You can't just keep the offensive name and then get upset that folks think it's offensive when the whole term "Redskin" was created to be a derogatory term in the first place!

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  11. my question is: if the redskins are forced to change their name, is the focus shifted to other teams like the cleveland indians (whose chief yahoo is arguably more offensive) and the atlanta braves? 

    The difference is Braves, Chiefs, Indians, Seminoles, Warriors, etc aren't derogatory racial slurs like Redskins. The Cleveland Indian caricature, however, does need to be updated or scrapped, like Golden State has done with the bridge. 

  12. I recall Biz posterizing multiple people from catching lobs off pick and rolls. 

    For those defending Al, how do you explain the improvement of this team, particularly the flow of the offense, when such an "offensive liability" like Biz was in the game?

    No one is defending Al, but this is where you and the rest of the biz crowd are making the wrong argument. The improvements we had when Al wasn't in doesn't mean Biz is somehow good, it just means Al and his ball stopping was that bad. No one was making this argument when Al was making an All-NBA team, were they?

    IMO both should have been shipped out to completely overhaul the center spot with a guy like WCS (or in this case, see what Frank's got) but the team wants to stave off the inevitable rebuild another year.

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  13. I think some of these moves are because Cho and Clifford have probably been told they are on the hotseat so they are making moves to try and make us better right now

    Ya think?

    That's great that they're trying to make us better right now. The problem is it's now being done at the expense of the team's future which was what made it such a trendy pick as a franchise on the rise last season.

    It's one thing if they wanted to use money to supplement a great draft haul, but they doubled down on convincing themselves they could win now with underwhelming young talent at best, and now they're scrapping that plan altogether and becoming the exact team they swore they wouldn't be when they tanked that 2011-12 season.

    We could be looking at a team that misses the playoffs but has Winslow, Vonleh and a cheap season of Biz in tow. We gave that up for one year of Nic Batum and Frank Kaminsky. Sixth seed for days. Wonderful. Sure glad we spent all that time tearing it down!

  14. Between this and the Vonleh trade reaction you would have thought we were on the cusp of a championship with those two and not coming off a 33-49 season in which neither could even get off the bench.

    If this works, great. If it doesn't, folks will probably lose jobs and we'll be back in tear down mode, hopefully with management that chooses Leonard, Butler and Thompson over Biyombo next time.

    The bigger issue here is once again we see a disconnect in a front office that bottomed out to avoid the exact situation they just put themselves in again. There is no long-term plan. Only reactionary movements to short term trends. Lance is bad? Get rid of him. Golden State won with offense? Let's get a bunch of offense. Finished below expectations last year? Let's go all in. Al Jefferson won all-NBA one time? Don't trade him!

    I'm jealous of Philadelphia. It may not work, but at least they have a plan and the patience to see that plan through. Can't say the same here.

  15. It's not really that, it's that we are over the cap anyway so there is literally no negative in extending the QO to him.

    This. And, if we knew we weren't going to be extending it to him, why not trade the guy? Clearly he has a valuable skill for the league so at least try to get a return on your bad investment.

    That's two top ten picks gone in the span of a couple weeks. If this doesn't work out, we are so low on young assets at this point that when Cho gets the boot we should be deconstructing back to the infamous 7 win season again.

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  16. I still think had you guys drafted Winslow, MJ wouldn't have traded Kidd-Gilchrist away. Justise is a hybrid player, so he could play the SG and SF roles. Three years of investment, MKG has repaid The Hornets with being a Top 10 defender. You don't trade someone like that unless you change your identity and scheme.

    Cho and MJ just have to hope Frank develops into Dirk-lite because he will be replacing Big Al. Adding Monroe would help tremendously though. That said, I'd save every penny for Curry (similar to what The Heat are currently doing for Durant). Golden State isn't gonna let him go without a fight.

    Winslow fits perfectly with what the Heat are trying to do in replacing Deng. In this system, he'd be playing out of position and be stuck behind Batum. Had we known Justise would be there, the Batum trade probably doesn't get made.

    It's all a matter of where the franchise is in the rebuilding process. I really think winning the ASG is what changed this whole process. All of a sudden "just be flexible and keep your potential high" turned into needing to make up for lost time.

    Ironically what ended up happening last season is the fanbase began accepting that we had bad luck with injuries and the like that led to last season and held on to the fact that we still had flexibility. Had we wound up with an "all in" roster like this last season we'd all be stoked!

  17. Acquiring players that can actually play offense. Cliff can scheme to minimize defensive inefficiencies. He can't make Biz catch those entry passes.

    Frees up 4 million dollars. Dump Cody and Marvin and go after Trillsap.

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  18. I must have been looking at his 2014 stats.

    I'm only echoing what you guys say on here. The status quo apparently is MKG is what you guys had hoped for on the defensive side but not offensively. As the second overall pick, he's everything you need as a squad that values defense (similar to Indiana) over offense. He's a fine fourth or fifth option in my opinion. However, the odds of him being as effective and impactful as Butler or Green or Leonard on the other side are slim. So long as Charlotte values defense, MKG will be a staple and a valuable piece.

    To be honest, I don't know what to make out of the Hornet fanbase. You guys seem to be happy with his defensive contributions but the moment he has a poor showing on offense (which is gonna happen a lot), you guys want him traded. Yet, these fans are aware that MKG is not a good second or third option.

    The whole idea surrounding trading MKG on draft night was under the assumption that we were still trying to get up to pick 4 if D'Angelo Russell fell in the draft. No one on the team is untouchable IMO but if we give up MKG we better get a surefire All-Star in return.

    Where the pick is on the board and the ultimate impact of the player is irrelevant if the draft isn't very good as we saw in both the 2012 and 2013 drafts. Past Davis, you could argue MKG has made the second greatest impact to his team in that draft, since without him we would be right there with Minnesota and Philly.

    Rich Cho's drafts to this point outside of the Kemba pick were built off the promise of the best potential available and look where it got us. Unfortunately, time is running out. The ASG is coming and Curry is going to be a free agent in 2017 on a championship caliber squad. We can't wait around for that potential that may never show itself.

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