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That second down run had no chance. Ugh. 

1 minute ago, Byrdman4real said:

Wanted Josh Downs in the second 

I was thinking late second / early third. Never going to be more than a 2nd option, but he’s going to be a good second option. 

1 minute ago, 96Bravo said:

Ugh. I hate seeing Baker play well after how terrible he was last year. Even when TB fumbles, they get it back in better position. Looks like this will end up being a heartbreaker for HOU.

No QB had a chance here at the beginning of last year. 

Just now, kungfoodude said:

INB4 UNC cucks start blowing Josh Downs for no reason.

I’m obviously biased.
 

With that said, he is a damn good receiver, whether he went to UNC or not. 

Good answer by the D. 

Just now, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

why is a UDFA rookie we signed from the giants PS a few weeks ago starting at safety over Sam Franklin and our 5th round pick?

So Franklin can concentrate on ST I heard.

Colts going backwards. Backup right tackle scared to block Burns. 

Bozeman killed the first drive with his penalty.

Loved Bryce’s effort there. First I’ve seen a run from him like that. 

Love the black on black. We rarely play well in it though. 

Come on Vikings! 

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

Johnson is just another one of the examples that we have a really, really bad talent evaluation group here.

When was the last time they really hit on a veteran pick up besides Adam Thielen?

Crickets man, crickets.

 

Good point man. It says something if the former team, that knows the most about a player, doesn’t make a competitive run to keep them.

I recall the Vikings tried to keep thielen (and their fans liked him), but didn’t want to pay as much as we did. 

I’ve never seen such a polarizing Panthers player.

Makes pro bowls. Opponent’s OC has to constantly scheme for him. Other teams lining up to trade and pay for Burns. 
 

We’re happy trading him away for picks so we can draft busts and then use the money for free agents like Miles Sanders and Hayden Hurst. 
 

Only people right in this thread so far are the ones calling out that all teams essentially have bad drafting luck like this outside of the first three rounds. Do a similar chart for other teams outside of the usual winners with the best coaches and you’ll see the same. 
 

With that said, we’ve got to get better with our second rounders. 
 

This is why it kills me when anyone wants to trade one of our proven drafted players for picks who will likely be complete busts.

Just now, pantherclaw said:

Anybody who says Burns impact is non existence,  or Minimal doesn't understand football.    

Yeah, its not just the stats.

From what I see, he’s the only one on our defense that the opposing OC gameplans for. Get rid of Burns and then we have nothing. 

Surprised how little production he’s had…

Maybe these vets need to realize they actually need training camp and acclimation to the season. 

1 hour ago, CRA said:

What did we get for Julius Peppers?

What did we get for Star Lotulelei? 

What did we get for Josh Norman? 

Those were all elite at the time they walked out the door and we got diddly.  

And there are plenty of guys that we let play elsewhere too and got nothing in return for them too.  Because of management of things we got nothing for Panther HOFers like Steve Smith, Cam Newton, etc.   Poorly managed. 

History matters.  It’s why we study it. So you are aware of what has happened and can again.  And it’s safe to say, this is already on a rocky pathway.  And we aren’t unique.  Players walk all the time with teams getting nothing.  I mean to deny the possibility of such is well….

All of these were interesting that don’t feel like the Burns situation so far.

Peppers was a multi-tag storyline where he essentially said he wasn’t going to play anywhere but a big market…

Star didn’t want to be here at all and the Panthers didn’t seem to value his future fit. 

Norman was Gettleman making a really bad decision. Just absolute stupidity, but we may have made the right decision in hindsight as Norman’s play rapidly fell off a cliff outside of the right scheme fit. 

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

Okay, first things first, the people saying he's going to walk and we're going to get nothing/compensatory for him just need to stop, that's just flat out pure ignorance or stupidity, your which you'd rather be called.

My best guess at this point is a franchise tag and hold out until he's either traded or sits the first 8 weeks of the season and shows up when he has to in order to get credit for the season.

It just feels like the team and Burns must be too far apart to have get a deal done or it already would have been done, and I can't see him playing week 1 on the tag at this point, not with how this has all gone.

I think in the end he gets traded for a first and a good starting player, hopefully being a WR.  I could very well see it being Higgins and Bengals 1st for Burns in the end.  

I'd also very much be on board with trying to find a way to get Aiyuk out of a Burns trade, as they're going to have to trade him in the offseason with their cap issues, but they won't be able to pay Burns anyways, so not sure how we'd swing that other than Burns for 2 firsts somewhere else and then flip one of them for Aiyuk.

First realistic take I’ve seen on this thread. Good stuff! 
 

Anyone saying he walks with nothing is clueless to the franchise tag and how this usually goes. 

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Burns' camp has all the ammo in the world. Hell, I'd be shooting to be the highest paid defender in the league because the Panthers sure seems to value him like he should be.

Yeah, and then you can realize we have the franchise tag. 

5 hours ago, Moonstone said:

on a related note, it's pretty admirable to be a team captain as a rookie WR

Josh Downs was a baller for UNC the last two years. He has a knack for getting open and making YAC.

Drake hasn’t looked as good to me without him. 

I think he’s gonna be fine now that he’s handed off the play calling duties.
 

There’s too much going on for a head coach to be calling plays too. 

30 minutes ago, WelshPanther said:

He actually moved up in the pocket yesterday and was a lot more aware of pressure. I have a glimmer of hope and I’ll take that.

Still has a ways to go, but clear improvement for sure. 

We really need our defense to get healthy quickly. If that happens, I think there’s still a shot. 

Great job by Luvu, Jackson, Burns and the D today. 

Showed some potential today, especially on defense.
 

And well we aren’t mathematically eliminated  yet and we do have a very sorry division. Let’s see what happens! 
 

Great job D!