falconlynx

7 minutes ago, lightsout said:

 

 

If Bryce had one game to give us pause, I'd slow my roll. All the QBs that had rough first years had at least one game that they looked truly impressive in. Bryce has had a handful of plays across the entire season that were impressive. His average is probably something like 1-2 plays per game.

 

Bryce has not looked good. He has not showed  promise. He has shown life.signs. that's about it.

I cannot think of any worthy plays. 

Yeah, it’s never been this bad. 

Y’all all got what you wanted. Now you can live with it. 

Well said Bigkat. You’ve been a great fan and you’ve led the way for your boys.  Have loved your posts over the years. Hate it’s come to this. 

1 minute ago, CmC2k said:

That "The panthers have fired Frank Reich and Scott Fitter" notification is going to be so sweet tomorrow. 

Yeah, agreed. I’ll start following the team again liked I used to. Now, it’s just worth a 1-time check per game on here. 

20 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

This is going to be a long ass post. it’s pretty much the reason I made an account and stopped lurking for 20 - I think - years. 
 

I don’t know squat about the Xs and Os, but I’m in the people business and know people. 

Wilks completely screwed up their plan. He won.

Let’s completely remove the ‘was he the coach of the future argument, and just look at it from a locker room perspective:

He came in and in a period of a couple weeks turned a group of abject lifeless losers… in to winners… who played for each other… setting team rushing records…  and COMPLETELY burned the narrative to the ground that the team was devoid of Tallent.
 

He had a cast off RB no one had ever heard of, who was 1 season away from quitting and becoming a truck driver, playing out of his mind, and like a guy we SHOULD have resigned… for what ended up being a bag of chips and cream soda. 

I mean my God, the coaching had SAM-EFFING-DARNOLD actually looking like a good QB.

Oh, and he 1000% restored the pre-Tepper, ‘you better not f with us,’ never quit, team culture that we lived for decades. Decades. The stadium started rocking again. PANTHER FANS WERE COMING BACK. 
 

We were an MIA JC Horn and a ‘we shouldn’t have punted’ decision away from the F’in playoffs. In hindsight though, the punt wouldn’t have mattered. Who on our team had a snowballs chance in hell besides JC against a motivated Evans and the GOAT. 
 

so to recap from a player’s perspective: 

You fired, and never even had any intention to giving a prove it type deal to who was UNARGUABLY their guy, in every sense. An alpha black man (BIG problem). Yes, race matters. A lot. Long time member of the pre-Tepper panthers (problem there too). Having both offense and defense playing smash mouth football and showing that it worked (yeah, that’s a no go). Home town guy. Loyal to players, and may have been loved by the players ever more than Rivera? Possibly. But he was one of them, and they played like it. The whole team gelled even faster than the 2003 team did. The momentum was real. The team had no quit in it. 
 

But it wasn’t winning the way he wanted to win. Mr unlimited $$ just assumed the current (black) coach would be unable to surround himself with fresh offense minds.
 

He never even gave their guy a shot, but in the process and essentially promised a playoff caliber team. You make that promise, you BETTER deliver.
 

These dudes are playing for contract #2. If you start losing, you’re really messing with their $$. Contract #2 will be what most of these guys will live off of for the rest of their life.  They NEED this.

And now you’re the laughing stock of the league, no first round pick and you’re team leader is the most huggable beta personality (but he’s from a good 2 parent household) QB I’ve ever seen since I started paying attention in 2002. The whole team plays like they shared each others Seroquel (I write tons of that poo, I know what it looks like) before kickoff.  F man, prime Randy Moss would be lucky to catch 10 TDs on this team. Every player besides Luvu and a handful looks like they hate it out there.
 
You fired OUR dude, blew up what was working and told us it wouldn’t keep working, sent Darnold (who was playing well) and Foreman packing. You moved up in the draft, sent our only real WR out the door along with this year’s pick to take a guy Teddy Ruxbin could sack. Give worthless ass Sanders the $ that Foreman should have gotten. And so much more poo that I’m too pissed to remember right now. all to try and win a big man’s game with a flag football philosophy. You really think anyone in that locker room truly takes orders from the anti-Stroud.

Beta personalities don’t win squat in the NFL. Tepper allows no alphas. Compare any pre-Tepper team to our current flag football squad. I bet they scrimmage with the IBM and Redhat teams regularly. 

Tepper fired a winning, black, most loved head coach the team has ever seen for a retread loser white dude who has a team of deservedly so zombies at 1-8, who no one wants to come play for or work at. 

Even if we lost, we were beating the piss out of the other team. I bet Parsons already has a tee time for Monday morning. 
 

The problem is talent, yes, but it goes WAY deeper than that. The players are insulted (you know, the ones raised in single parent households), hopeless, pissed, probably think the owner is a racist, and know that they’re going to take a $$ hit in their next contract because this self created loser ass team has fugged them. 
 

All he had to do was give Wilks a 2 year prove it deal and let him try to evolve, and if not let him go. But he never had any intention of doing so, and they all knew it. 
 

thanks tepper. You’ll probably get your wish to move the team in the next 5 years, just like you wanted. 

Bought this last night as a last ditch effort to sparking some good juju. Hope it works. 

It’s like a good book about ruining something good and what not to do to win in the NFL. Great post. 

I give it two weeks until Reich is fired. What a train wreck. 

2 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Coulda rode with Wilks and Darnold and probably still ended up with a top 15 pick and then take a big swing for a franchise QB like Drake Maye. 

Or heck, won some games and then tried to trade for an actually good prospect QB. 

9 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

Wouldn’t it be Staley? He’s assistant head coach right? 

Cannot be anyone associated with this offense. 
 

Heck, fire Staley too. He had to have a hand in the Miles Sanders signing and RBs aren’t producing poo…

Reminds me of 2001. 

1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

For a guy that was successful as a player and had to maximize his talent and ability as a leader when he played, those guys tend to do well as coaches, but Frank just seems to have zero awareness.  

Why would you burn that timeout on 3rd down?  Also, I would have to see it again to be sure, but it looked like TMJ came wide open over the top on 3rd down, but Bryce of course didn't look for it and checked it down, then you elect to kick a FG that wasn't even close from 59 yards.  You have to know what your kicker is comfortable making and from where.  And even with the miss, if you have 3 timeouts, it allows you to play differently if you have to go back on defense.  Just none of that poo made any sense at all...  the situational awareness is just not there at all, and that's all on Frank.

Now, aside from that, it's clear Bryce is fuging horrible.  The next gen stats even laid out how bad he is even without pressure.  The Strachan throw was the best in-air throw he has thrown all-season, and it took 10 weeks to get it.  He almost threw 2 more picks tonight due to inaccuracy.  He can't see poo and his default is to checkdown, and that is obvious even in the offensive scheme - Ryan Fitzpatrick just said it was so frustrating to watch bc almost all of our throws are to receivers facing the QB, which means no chance for YAC.  This poo is a trainwreck.

The #1 pick we traded a franchise receiver and multiple 1sts for just got outplayed for a win by a UDFA QB from a DII school.  The end.

I’ll pie this tomorrow. Perfect take by someone who obviously has an eye for football. 

3 minutes ago, La Flama Blanca said:

You’re obviously not watching the games or have no sense of football. The guy is playing pretty damn well for the most part. We’re just not good right now,  the tide will turn eventually 

I think you’re the one not watching the games. 

Yes, it has to happen. 

Agreed, it has to happen. Sorry Frank. 

2 minutes ago, Rocky Davis said:

The Panthers have some problem children in the locker room and it's being carried over to the field.

TMJ, Burns (not playing), Chark (not playing) all guys who in my opinion are not giving it their all. 

Then we got the lost boys:  Mingo, Ikey

I gotta hand it to Evero though, he is coordinating a depleted defense and they are playing hard.

I feel some of this too. Good points. 

2 minutes ago, emhoward said:

Well we lost to the Seahawks with him starting so Ima say youre wrong here.

Unless youre being sarcastic lol

And that’s why I wrote the Seahawks…

2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

No one can seriously put this on Bryce…no offensive talent and no defensive talent.  

I can. He’s showing me nothing for a #1 overall pick. 
 

And this defense has been the only reason these games have been as close as they’ve been thus far.

1 minute ago, rodeo said:

That was a stellar throw to a blanketed receiver despite the drop. He's gonna have to keep doing that and just ignoring that all of his receivers are fully covered.

Yeah, cannot keep making excuses for receivers being covered and instead just make something happen. In general, such a small window in the nfl. 

2 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

I honestly wonder how many games we would have won if we had Dalton start every game this year..yes, our offensive talent sucks - but man Bryce has not looked good 

Id say we’d be 6-3. 

Losses to Seahawks, Lions, and Dolphins. 

Can’t believe we converted off of that 1st and 30. Bryce looked legit on the 4th down. First time since that long throw earlier. 

Wow we got a 4th down conversion! Good execution by all there for once.

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

He couldn't. 15 lbs of water weight shifting would have caused him to fall sideways.

Hahaha good one.

2 minutes ago, WelshPanther said:

1-15 though, right?

1-15 was 2001 and got us Peppers.

Clausen was 2010, I think 2-14, and got us Cam. 

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Was Bryce throwing dimes at the combine?

 

I have no idea how you watch him throw and not realize he lacks arm strength. This had to be more than football because Stroud/AR/Levis all had better arm talent.

 

 

He didn’t throw there. That should have been a sign. 

3 minutes ago, falconlynx said:

Agreed. At least we got Peppers, Foster, and Witherspoon for the pain of 1-15. 

And Cam for the pain of pickles.