Matthias

2 hours ago, KatsAzz said:

I think we all can agree that 45 million a year would be an outlandish demand.

My question is, how many teams would be willing to step up, show interest  and try to obtain Daniel Jones even at a much reduced salary?

As a free agent, he would demand interest from teams.  Probably would be willing to give him 30+ million a year.  I think if the Giants gave him the non-exclusive tag, it would be hard press for a team to give up two first round picks to get him.

Ultimately if he can somehow wiggle himself free into free agency, I believe the Panthers should sign him.

How many of you are taking Jones' contract demand at face value?  He is clearly trying to get out of New York.  The fall back is if he does stay, at least he is getting paid.  He will likely get the tag, but there's a small chance New York may decide to move on from him.

I just heard the report of Jones switching agents and allegedly asking for 45 million a year from the Giants.  Now, I see a lot of people taking this at face value in that Jones is demanding this up front.  Clearly nobody, and I would say including himself, values him at that much.  That's insane.  Instead, I believe this is simply his attempt to get out of New York.  If he gives an outlandish demand, it might trick the Giants into just letting him go.

Carr can explore right around Carolina.

By the way, I liked it when the Pro-bowl was after the Superbowl.  If done right, it was like a farewell to the season.  The main problem is with football itself.  The sport is too dangerous to play even in a casual way.  And casual football sucks!  

This simulator is crazy.  I was able to draft CJ Stroud, and pick up 3 1st round picks from other teams next year.  That means we would have Stroud, and 4 1sts next year.  Hold my beer Fitterer!!!

The only team that would be willing to trade down, would be the Bears.  They would be looking to literally fleece the skin of any fool who looks to trade up to one.  This means probably for the next three years, the trading team will be forfeiting their drafts until day 3.  No way, Jose!!!!!

I view all the top QBs in this coming draft as having good upside. (The only thing I fear about Young is his small frame)  One of those guys will be available at the 9th pick.  I'm good with any of them.  Shoot, I kind of have my eye on Marvin Harrison coming out next year.  I want to be in the running in getting him.

Been a fan of Kris Richard for years.

I wish we could put the trading away future 1st picks to bed.  If we trade up to say the 1st pick, you better believe we are trading away our soul for the next 2 or possibly even 3 drafts to come.  Remember, Justin Fields was selected with the 11th pick.  There's a chance CJ Stroud could fall to the 9th pick for us. (For those who want him.  I certainly wouldn't be against him if he is available)  If he's not there, I wouldn't be against drafting Anthony Richardson or Will Levis.  One of those guys will be available at 9.

Is CJ Henderson still under contract?  Is Keith Taylor?  Let them go.  Who else need to go man!!!  We need to clean house at some positions.

11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

Well, he is kind of whining through his lawyer.  I don't really appreciate Carolina being looked at in the discrimination lawsuit angle of things.  Not that I'm a pom pom guy for these owners, I actually hate the ownership aspect of sports.  Yet when it comes to this situation, it's bogus.  Heck, even if Tepper had something against Wilks personally, the actual decision of letting Wilks go was the right decision in football terms.

21 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

ARTICLE:

 

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Saints want a first-round pick and more. Which means another pick, since by rule players can’t be part of the transaction between teams for rights to a coach whose contract has not expired.

 

The price will be even higher if Carolina becomes the chosen destination.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/21/saints-want-more-than-a-first-round-pick-for-sean-payton/

The Saints can kiss my @ $$

My biggest problem with the Payton discussion, would be the fact we would have to give draft pick compensation.  Payton ain't worth that.  Let's be real, Payton was lucky enough to have Drew Brees.  Look at what Bellichick has done since Brady left.  ZILCH!!!!!!!  As a matter of fact, why would anyone in their right mind trade for an aged coach?  What QB has Sean Payton developed from the ground up?  Taysom Hill?  LOL!!!

Giants need to give Barkley more touches.

4 minutes ago, Htarnation4.0 said:

Yeah I'm not sure how it works as they passed on the 5th year option. I've read they can't franchise him because of that. I don't know. If not, an option?

If by a miracle he hits the open market, I believe he should/would be our number one target to bring in.

3 minutes ago, Htarnation4.0 said:

Daniel Jones looks like a young qb who is finally getting it. He has a lot of tools. The Giants can't franchise him. Does he come home? 

They can franchise him, but he could play hardball.  I think when it comes down to it, with Barkley also being a free agent, they will tag Jones because of the position.  However if they do, they would have to pay him over 30 million, and would eat up half their cap space.  Such a move would certainly see Barkley hitting the open market.

We could see Barkley break records today.

Yeah I wouldn't give up our first round pick.  We need a QB more than we need a coach, in my estimation.  Of course if we don't draft one this year, that may mean we're expecting Darnold back.

On 1/12/2023 at 1:53 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Carr is a considerably better NFL QB than Daniel Jones. Good grief.

You'd still rather have Carr over Jones?  Of course it's probably moot.  The Giants would have to be extremely foolish to let him walk.  

Can we trade Donte Jackson for Asante Samuel Jr. straight up?

8 hours ago, cardiackat88. said:

Andrew Luck all over again?

Perhaps he is avoiding a particular team?

Probably the Texans.

Man, I'm looking at Ben Johnson's credentials, and really the only thing I'm seeing is his success with the Lions this year.  Hats off to him with the overall job he did, but let's be real, it's not like he tore the league wide open.  His team did finish around 500.  Yeah I would have to see a little more offensive success than just this one year.

I've also seen people wanting him majorly because of that Packers game.  Come on, Aaron Rodgers is on the down side of his career with the Packers.  If that were the old cats, the Lions would have been washed.

I'm good on Carr.  Does he have skills?  Yes.  Yet at the end of the day, I think he's peaked and is on a downhill trajectory.  Perhaps that actual QB we should be looking at, and I'm surprised to be thinking this way, is Daniel Jones.

I wish we were in a real division this year.  People keep talking about the job Wilks did, but fail to realize every last team in our division was in it until the last two weeks.  Going 500 is mediocre talk.

2 hours ago, NJPanthers12 said:

Ben Johnson, Ken Dorsey, and Shane Steichen.

and before I hear, what have they proven? What has wilks proven? What did Nick Siriani prove before he was hired? How about Zach Taylor? Kyle Shanahan? Sean McVey? What was Doug Pedrrsons track record before wining a super bowl in Philly? 

Give me Ken Dorsey all day.  Everywhere he's gone, it's been magic.  Namely his years with Cam, and now Josh Allen.  I believe Ken Dorsey is the majority reason why Buffalo is doing their thing.  People don't realize how raw Josh Allen was in his first year.  Then overnight, Dorsey made him a superstar.