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Just for the record:

“Philly was fun while it lasted,” Brown said, via the Charlotte Observer. “But at the same time, I’d rather have my regular name.”

Brown says that the team’s coaches have already started referring to him by that name, but he expects teammates will “always call me Philly.”

 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/01/philly-brown-call-me-corey/

Cuz I'm bored at work, and wanted to see the break down of his catches and incompletions....

Stats from: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/

13 catches out of 20 targets (65%)

8 of the 20 targets for Bersin were on 3rd down plays. 2 of those plays were incomplete. (both were pass defended)
8 catches in the 4th quarter
1 catch in the 3rd quarter
4 catches in the 2nd quarter

7 incomplete passes out of 20 targets (35%)

1 incomplete pass was in OT: No pass defender
1 incomplete pass was in the 3rd quarter: Resulted in an interception
5 incomplete passes were in the 2nd quarter: 1 resulted in an interception, 2 No pass defender, 2 Pass defended

Per http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2014/ , Bersin had 1 dropped pass all season.

Now, lets see how Cotchery did... (since most are comparing them the closest)

48 catches out of 78 targets (62%)

22 of the 78 targets for Cotchery were on 3rd down plays. 11 of those plays were incomplete.

1 catch in OT
4 catches in the 4th quarter
16 catches in the 3rd quarter
13 catches in the 2nd quarter
14 catches in the 1st quarter

30 incomplete passes out of 78 targets (38%)
1 incomplete pass was in OT: Pass defended
5 incomplete passes was in the 4th quarter: 4 No Pass defender, 1 pass defended
8 incomplete passes were in the 3rnd quarter: 5 No Pass defender, 3 Pass defended
7 incomplete passes were in the 2nd quarter: 1 INT, 4 No Pass defender, 2 Pass defended
8 incomplete passes were in the 1st quarter: 6 No Pass defender, 2 Pass defended

Per http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2014/ , Cotchery had 1 dropped pass all season.

Take from that what you want...
 

Enjoy!

​No I misread the gif. LOL
Oh well..

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close enough... LOL

I like cheese!

What they are saying: (An NFCS Group from facebook) LOL

"Cam is elite they say. Cam will be a franchise qb they say. Cam this Cam that. Cam is a big ass fugin joke who DOES NOT deserve a contract of a 100 mil. He's only good for about 60 mil!"

"Cam Newton wears that "S" on his chest thinking he's Superman ....but in his case the "S" stands for Scumbag, or Sucks."

"he is highly overrated that's for sure fugin scrum bum mcgrum"

"At least I can drive a truck without crashing it."

"Cam is garbage."

"Still don't have any playoff wins tho. (Cardinals don't count)"

"100 milli for a QB that hasnt won a playoff"

"He's not ready for that road yet"

"Can newton is gonna be the most over paid QB in history of the NFL"

"Lmao he ain't worth that at all"

"There paying a back up Q.B alot of money"

"Time to start cutting lol"

"That is SB winning QB money.... They are out of their minds Lmao !!!"

"now he can buy all the leggings and uggs he wants."

"As long as the Panthers have Cam they'll never get anywhere, hopefully he retires a pussy cat"

"100 mill!!!! Salary cap issues are abroad for the Kittens."

"Going into next year Carolina will have to give money away to meet the CBA rules. Cam was already scheduled to make 15 million this year as part of the rookie contract guarantee."

"I'm happy they locked him in. It guarantees they won't get to a superbowl in the next five years."

"Over paid his not worth the money..."

"Cammy Girl is now not only the most overrated but now can add overpaid to that title"

"Cammy Girl getting 100 mill and he ain't worth half of that. "

"he aint even worth a third of it"

"As a RB maybe. LOL"

"100mill with no playoff wins...Cardinals game was a gimme so that doesn't count"

Man oh man... entertainment... LOL

 

​noticed that. LOL thanks!

I'm loving the fact that there is so much infighting in this thread over the whole thing...

and on Facebook, I'm reading all the hate from other teams (NFCS) fans that are just giddy about "overpaying" Cam. as he's not worth 100+ Million... even as a RB, he's not worth half that.

Sometimes I enjoy how stupid people can be. LOL

I know... I'm a bad person.

All I can think is bup bup bup bup bup bup bup

I was thinking the same thing!

​LOL I still have this too... from back in the day.. dug it up with the other Pics of mark... had to save it, just in case.

Your doppelganger... ;)

​On sec, they are giving donations in lue of flowers. I am getting that info.

Northern Hawk? yes?

Mark is on the left, then Panthers Canada...

I think you were there having a meal with Mush at the time? or came in while we were eating. I can't recall. Dunno if you hung out, but you met. once.

Can we send flowers to someone?

From his wife Amy: in lieu of flowers, we are asking that donations be made to either: Ashe Humane Society, PO Box 1776 Jefferson,NC 28640 OR Seby B. Jones Cancer Center, ARHS Foundation, PO Box 2600 Boone, NC 28607 -in the memo line write: cancer center emergency fund.

Can we send flowers to someone?

Yeah let me get the info. Post in few.

​No. only their animals.

and her name is Amy.

​Yeah. I was a pallbearer at the funeral. She's hanging in, as best as she can. one minute, she's good, next she's not.
Darth Waya and I were there, along with a couple other friends of his. She was taken care of well yesterday.

​Yeah Brak. We were all thinking back to those times today a few times.

​Thanks.

No. only "Fur babies".

I'll only list ones that I attended live, but....

I'd have to say probably being present in the stadium for the 2008 MNF game against the Bucs for the Division lead at that time. The run game with Double Trouble getting 200 yards before Jake's kneel downs that night was awesome.

 

Other notables for me:
2004 Home Opener against Green Bay (my first live game)
2013 against the Pats (my Dad's first live game)
2013 Away game in ATL, winning the division, and being in their dome to witness it.

I never had a team I pulled for before the Panthers.

 

My friends had teams. I'd watch and get to know Football (I was more a NASCAR and basketball kid growing up, outside skateboarding)

 

I was told "you need to pick a team so we can talk poo to you!" I asked what were the newest teams... they said 2 teams coming into the league this season. I picked the Panthers, being I was such a NASCAR fan (via my dad) and a Hornets fan.

 

So, since they started playing in the league. I've been a fan. Life long, I can't say that I guess being they haven't been around all my life. But Their life? Yes sir. Life long.

To be fair, Baldwin and Kearse were his top two receivers.  Russel has had a lot less to work with, unless you're counting RB's.  Then hes had one of the best to work with.  

 

Indeed they were, and like I said... they have both been there since he started. building chemistry. out of Cam's 6, he's technically lost 3 (2 left the team, 1 is used as a FB or Blocking TE, not a pass catching option. he's caught 1 pass since 2011.) and the other 3 weren't options on the field until 2014 really. While they played Plug-N-Play with the WR2,WR3, etc positions each season until 2014... where they blew up the whole WR bunch.

 

Talent is Talent. but then again consistency with said talent Grows the collective talent. does it not?

 

Either way. the whole thing has been the consistency hasn't been there for Cam. (lack or talent plays a part in that) And Wilson has have consistency, building his game with the familiar players each season. (who got more and more action)

 

Anyway...

 

Who knows, but you can only grow talent if you keep it around.... constantly.

Since you use the talent to throw to as a reason.  Would you say Russel Wilson is better than him then?  Because Russel had a bunch of undrafted free agents to throw to before he got Jimmy.  

 

I know I'm late on the response. but, technically Wilson has had 1 more UDFA on the roster than Cam has had in his career.

Wilson 7

Cam 6

 

Cam's UDFA's through his career:

• Seyi Ajirotutu - UDFA 2010 (W/Cam: 0 starts in CAR, Games played 14, 0 TD's, 1 catches, 2 targets) <-- Came to CAR in 2011 from SD. Went back to SD in 2012

   

• Richie Brockel - UDFA 2010 (W/Cam: 2 starts in CAR, Games played 47, 0 TD's, 4 catches, 5 targets) <-- TE in 2011, used as FB 2012 on.

   

• Darvin Adams - UDFA 2011 (W/Cam: 0 starts in CAR, Games played 2, 0 TD's, 0 catches, 0 targets) <-- Went to the CFL after 2011 with the Panthers, hasn't left CFL

   

• Brandon Williams -  UDFA 2012 - Did not sign to a team until Panthers in 2013 - (W/Cam: 0 starts in CAR, Games played 23, 0 TD's, 4 catches, 8 targets) <-- Not used in Offense until 2014

   

• Brenton Bersin - UDFA 2012 (W/Cam: 1 starts in CAR, Games played 15, 1 TD's, 13 catches, 20 targets) <-- Practice Squad until 2014

   

• Cory Brown - UDFA 2014 (W/Cam: 3 starts in CAR, Games played 13, 2 TD's, 21 catches, 36 targets)

So, 1 out of 7 UDFA's were part of Cam's Offense his whole career.

2 left the team after Cam's first season.

1 Played more as a FB than a TE (one catch since Cam's rookie season)

0 have been full season starting pass catchers.

 

Wilsons UDFA's through his career:

• Bryan Walters - 2010 UDFA (W/Wilson: 0 starts in SEA, Games played 13, 0 TD's, 6 catches, 11 targets) <-- on SEA Roster from 2012 thru 2014 (Now in Jacksonville)

   

• Doug Baldwin - 2011 UDFA (W/Wilson: 29 starts in SEA, Games played 62, 11 TD's, 145 catches, 220 targets) <--- All with Seattle

   

• Ricardo Lockette - 2011 UDFA (W/Wilson: 1 start in SEA, Games played 24, 2 TD's, 16 catches, 22 targets) <--- was with SEA in 2011 - went to other teams - back to SEA for 2013. Still with team

   

• Chris Matthews - 2011 UDFA (W/Wilson: 0 starts in SEA, Games played 3, 1 TD, 4 catches, 5 targets) <--- Signed to Active Roster in Dec. 2014. Only Offensive stats came from the Super Bowl

   

• Jermaine Kearse - 2012 UDFA (W/Wilson: 20 starts in SEA, Games played 37, 5 TD's, 63 catches, 114 targets) <--- All with Seattle - Starter in 2013 on

   

• Sean McGrath - 2012 UDFA (W/Wilson: 0 starts in SEA, Games played 2, 0 TD's, 0 catches, 0 targets) <-- Played in SEA in 2012-2013

   

• Cooper Helfet - 2012 UDFA (W/Wilson: 2 starts in SEA, Games played 10, 2 TD's, 12 catches, 24 targets) <--- Practice Squad until 2014

 

So, 4 out of 7 UDFA's were part of Wilson's team his whole career.

1 left and came back.

2 were practice squad until the 2014 season.

2 have been full season starting pass catchers for the team.

 

Judge as you might of that info. But is shows me there has not been any consistency with the talent around Cam, being the team is still searching for players to fill those spots.

Im pretty sure Cam stepping up will have more significance than Fozzy stepping up. 

 

But if Fozzy "steps up" won't that help Cam... in his process of Stepping up?

 

TEAM... Impacts... TEAM...

 

One grows. others grow.

 

Again, not saying Cam doesn't have things to improve on. But, he can have the best footwork in the league and not over throw a pass all season. But, if there's not one trustworthy receiver... that stats will still show Cam as the Middle of the pack QB. No matter what.