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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You mean the same guy saying that Tepper claiming he didn't chime in on the decision was "rich"?

Norris' statement that Tepper didn't "overrule everybody" doesn't mean he didn't influence the decision. He actually clarified that directly in a response to his tweet about Tepper claiming no involvement.

 

Not denying Tepper was involved.  He told you so.

And maybe you should read the last line of that tweet you just posted.

Or maybe not.  Since it doesn’t fit your narrative.

Here I’ll type it out for you

he was  NOT the only voice that wanted Bryce Young at No. 1, like is being recycled.

Like being recycled aka a lot of post on here.

2 minutes ago, CanMan11 said:

Bryce is officially a bust anything to the contrary really is cope. Reich is well respected  in the league .. Reich is the guy that can make it work w/ almost any QB not Young though because Young isn't even NFL level. Colt Brennan couldn't make it Young can’t

It sure as sh!T didn’t work with the 6+ QBs he ran through in Indy after Luck.

nice try though

8 minutes ago, Martin said:

It’s a matter of who you believe. I put a lot of weight in what Jonathan J and Jay Glazer says, you believe Holder and some other randoes. So it is what it is.

Additionally Jones, Rapaport, Norris (literal friend of one of the guys who is being accused wanted Stroud over Bryce) are all saying it as definitive statements.  Not “well I think” speculation no nothing form pieces.

I know it may hard for some who have a agenda to comprehend the difference between a speculation and a definitive statement 

8 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2023/11/27/23978651/frank-reich-fired-carolina-panthers-david-tepper-bryce-young

 

I mean its becoming a universal thought at this point.  With so much smoke.......

 

Someone in Carolina was going to take the fall for this at some point, even though it is the widespread belief in NFL circles that Tepper pushed for the drafting of the diminutive Young over Stroud, who has the prototypical size and accuracy of the type of quarterback Reich has tended to prefer over the course of his coaching career.

Oh sweet

another

”belief” /speculation link

no different than you throwing random crap at the wall.

Ill take what someone says as certain from someone who personally knows someone who was in that decision process who you are even claiming wanted someone else.

but yeh.  I think, or speculate.   Is far more believable 

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

same guy, go figure

 

 

And?

where does it say the coaches wanted someone else?

From a friend of our now former QB coach 

2 minutes ago, The_Voice_Of_Tepper said:

Please don’t believe everything you read or hear about

Shut the fug up baldy

Seriously what coach or player is going to want to come here?

But hey.  We got Beyoncé and a “full stadium (of opposing fans)”

I could give 2 sh!ts about the “events”

man is a clown.

7 minutes ago, App Panther said:

But he literally said Bryce was a near unanimous choice among the staff.

Now was the staff influenced by Tepper early on and gaslit into taking Bryce? You can debate that all you want. 

People don’t know the definition of unanimous 

Blaming a Scheme.  That a lot of the league has moved towards. 
For a OL struggling to barely get hands on guys.  And only time looked good in pass pro was with help from the TE.

Is about as Stupid as someone trying to tell you Mike Remmers was actually a good OT.  It was only the scheme.  If we had the 2nd TE helping him all game in the Super Bowl.  He would’ve looked a lot better.

16 minutes ago, CamTheMan said:

Being top 5 in the league in pass attempts has nothing to do with our run blocking offensive linemen struggling in pass protection? And quite frankly, I don’t care what the rest of the league is doing. We showed it was possible to win running the ball with Wilks last year and instead ditched it for something we aren’t built to do just because it’s trendy.

Maybe they just suck at pass protection 

“we showed what we could do with Wilks”

there is a reason no one else in the league is doing that.  Running 100 times game  in 12 man.  Always putting a TE over to help your LT in pass pro because he can’t pass pro.

Remmers, Michael Jordan and all the other slappys we had at OL would look good in a 8 game sample of doing that too.  Eventually teams will catch on and good run defenses then it shows.  See the Tampa game at the end last year.

There is no scheme fix for looking like a tackling dummy or sled.  Heck, ain’t a scheme out there that is going to magically cause you to even put your hands up and on someone as a OL

1 minute ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

Why would you not take Levis if he scored a 93 to Bryce’s 98? Do 5 Wonderlic percentage points trump a cannon arm?

Wasn’t there the whole thing of Tepper being enamored with Levis

People seem to forget that ome

OP must be a State fan.

The whole league has gone to a majority shotgun.  Including the Eagles who run it more than us.

being 5’10 in shotgun has nothing to do with them looking like one of the pads in a DL drill

Good

lets hope the local media grows a pair like Scott Fowler tomorrow 

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Greg isn't Tepper's booze brother, so the correlation isn't there.

Tepper could see another short term bandaid to try to get people to come to his circus tent on mint st

just like his bring back Cam homecoming to play 1-2 games

Tepper saw Irsay fire Reich and bring in Saturday 

so he’s going to bring in Greg

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean if you want to equate a random Reddit account to….

NFL QB Boomer Esiason?  Who was also Frank old college roommate?  I mean Boomer was doing his own Frank PR parade publicly while the Panthers were debating about what Frank wanted. 

or you can just listen to the Panthers organization that claims everyone agreed despite every beat writer that follows us noting otherwise.  They ended in agreement because Tepper won. 

 

So because what he worked with in the past means what they want now?

So by that logic.  Ron Rivera ran a 3-4 prior to coming to Carolina.  So therefor Ron not Tepper wanted to change to a 3-4 his last year?

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean if you want to equate a random Reddit account to….

NFL QB Boomer Esiason?  Who was also Frank old college roommate?  I mean Boomer was doing his own Frank PR parade publicly while the Panthers were debating about what Frank wanted. 

or you can just listen to the Panthers organization that claims everyone agreed despite every beat writer that follows us noting otherwise.  Then ended in agreement because Tepper won. 

Every Beat writer?

I can’t think of 1.  Maybe Joe Person who questioned it but he said he didnt know.  While Kaye, Kunkle, Gantt and others stated that was wrong.

3 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

If it was Bryce or bust the whole time why did we almost trade up to #2 instead?

Maybe they didn’t think they could get to 1 like everyone and their brother who published Mocks. Where Texans traded to 1 then would have to trade to 2?  Or am I just imagining that no one thought Houston would trade to 1

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean Frank’s college roommate and old buddy was literally out their selling what a Frank Reich QB was publicly while Carolina debated. 

this is the point in the season where all the folks who wouldn’t gobble up Panther PR and narratives…..get largely proven right.  Panthers have been spewing utter BS for sometime. 

So Franks Wife’s Cousins Brother in law said Frank has typically had Big White Injured prone QBs who could throw it over a mountain.

So I guess clearly that Reddit guy claiming it was Levis was right all along.

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, overall he was a good receiver. The biggest knock on him is that he went #1 overall in what might have been the best WR draft of all-time and was nowhere close to being the best WR out of that class.

Best memory of Key was him talking how great Dwayne Jarrett was.  And how excited he was to suit up and play with him.  Then the Panthers cut him like a day later

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Tepper is known for a hot head that fires people at the drop of a hat.  IE see today.  So when they see the involvement and interest in young do you really think the scouts, coaches etc are going disagree with dave and nicole?  Thats lunacy at its finest to suggest

 

and the guys you referenced are reporters and not scouts.  Wtf do their opinions matter as I could give you guys with stroud #1 and saying teams didnt even have young on their draft board. 

Question

define “consensus” for me

also 

the difference between

Are and Think

and by the way one of those “reporters” was a pretty noteable scout with as deep a ties as anyone in the league.   Not someone trying to draw up hot clicks.

And you are correct.  There were guys that Had Stroud number.  A very select few.  Like Simms who had Zach Wilson way ahead of Lawrence and Corral QB1.  That was their rankings also btw.  That wasn’t reporting what they’ve heard from their sources across the league.  Big difference