Cary Kollins

12 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

i wanted him so bad 

Same bro same. That Olsen/Howard dual threat was going to break the league.  

felt like the Bucs were cheating when they got him 

Good lord what a bust OJ Howard has turned out to be. 

Mixon had to be the worst in the NFL by far so I’m sure this dude is a huge upgrade even if he’s never watched football before.

If CMC stays healthy the panthers win and none of this matters at all.

”just win baby”. Truly all that matters in the sport.

Elon would never 

Not even highschool level writing there. Truly anything can get published online nowadays. Super clever to use the made up number “bazillion” though. 

2 hours ago, KSpan said:

And funny enough that outside of some outlier years and him being carried by generational talent, he's still an average football coach. Better than Rhule if we compare their first two years, sure, but his conservatism and lack of strategic vision always hampered the team, and he and the coaches are the major reason the team lost a very winnable Super Bowl.

If Rivera is your metric, then your bar is too low, and Rhule doesn't even reach that.

Rivera sucks. Rhule’s biggest fault so far has been QB evaluation. Does Baker solve that? Maybe. If not Rhule is gone. 

I’m an optimist when it comes to sports, and the Panthers, with the talent they have, are in as good a spot they’ve been since Cam was healthy. 

1 hour ago, KSpan said:

Or it shows that they have been paying attention since the mastermind of the teams that have been 3-14 in one-score games since 2020 is still in place. Until he proves otherwise on the field, Rhule has 2 years of showing nothing indicating he's an NFL-caliber coach and it's completely fair to always have that 'but' at the end when analyzing the Panthers.

Will that change this season? Perhaps. Until then though, to quote John Fox, it is what it is.

Funny enough Ron Rivera was somewhere in that same ball park of 3-14 at the start of his coaching career. 

Agree. The hate from the national media just shows how little they actually watch the panthers. We were like 1-7 in one score games last year, and that was with the worst offensive line and bad to terrible QB play. No team in the NFL can win without a competent line. With all the additions to the o-line, d-line and injured players coming back healthy, there’s no reason this team doesn’t make the playoffs in a very weak NFC. 
 

You may recall prior to the 2015 session when Kelvin Benjamin got hurt EVERYONE, including many Panthers fans, thought the Panthers were headed for a lost season. We all know how that turned out. 
 

The NFL is designed for teams to go from rags to riches, and barring more devastating injuries, there’s plenty of reason to believe the Panthers are due for contention.  

From .6 to 9 

Looks like he did this in front of their small children too. Dude has no business playing professional sports right now.

From Mick Mixon to the new guy and Luke is akin to going from Jiminy Pickles to Cam Newton 

13 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Also feel very concerned about this hire. I didn’t like how his tenure ended in Brooklyn and it was made known by both Irving and Durant that they didn’t like Atkinson’s culture.

Regarding Irving and Durant not liking his culture, that’s probably a really good thing.

Irving has proven to be nothing short of a locker room cancer and Durant showed his judgement when he chose to leave Golden State to start a super team with Irving.

Improved nets defense from 20th something to 7th in his few seasons there.

Defense should definitely improve.

The biggest news to come out of all this is Will Kunkel made himself look like a desperate for attention dork.

They are renaming the fancy on field  luxury suites the KEEP POUNDING BOX!

Good, the Browns have zero leverage since they sold the farm to the dude with two dozen and counting sexual harassment claims to his name.

Lol at “EB is too mean and that’s why he hasn’t been hired”

The NFL very much is still a “good ole boys club”, and bias whether conscious or unconscious is real.  

On 5/2/2022 at 6:38 PM, Proudiddy said:

Don't get me wrong, I was going to be excited about the potential to develop any one of the guys that were available in the draft, outside of probably Pickett.  But, really, where we picked and what was available at the time, it really comes down to Corral versus Howell.  And again, to be clear, I was going to be excited about developing either...  but, the one thing that bothers me most about picking Corral over Howell is that ever since the team ran Cam into the ground and injured his shoulder, we have struggled the most with the deep ball.  And sure, teams can run functional offenses without it, but they never teach their full potential without it, imo.  If you can't take the top off of a defense and make them respect your ability to do so, it shrinks the field and makes the defense have to work a lot less.  It simplifies things for them to take away what you want to do.  Look at the best offense in the league, and the among the things they do best is stretch the field...

Now, back to Corral and Howell.  One of the biggest things that stood out to me about Howell was all of the various scouting reports I read on him emphasized one of his greatest strengths is his deep ball.  Many said he was the best deep ball passer in this draft.  I also read he tended to struggle with his accuracy in the short and intermediate the more anticipation the throws required...  on the flipside, I have read repeatedly that Corral is wildly erratic with his deep ball passing.  

Each guy has their strengths that excite you, and their weaknesses that scare you.  I love Corral's guts, grit, his lightning fast release, his creativity with his athleticism and legs to evade defenders and make plays as a runner, the zip on some of his throws, and he seems to be one of those contagious leaders that teammates just love.  His injury history and frame scare the poo out of me, and the inaccuracy issues on deep throws just doesn't sit well with me at all either.

With Howell, I also love his guts and grit, his arm, his ability to make plays as a runner as well (although not as impressive as Corral's), and obviously his deep ball accuracy.  He can and does literally make all of the throws.  And as a fellow Tar Heel, he has the going for him...  and regardless of how anyone feels with personal favorites or allegiances, it is still absolutely shocking that a guy who coming into 2021 was viewed as a Heisman favorite and was projecting to be a possible #1 overall pick, and at the very least the top QB of the class, lost multiple NFL playmakers from his offense and had to be the entire offense for UNC in 2021, has a tough year and slides all the way to the 5th round.  That is just unbelievable.  I honestly don't see how he slipped that far, and outside of his smaller stature, I don't really see the potential negatives as a passer that I see with Corral.  As a player, if you ignore his lack of height, he looks like the superior pure passer.

Now, back to the concerns...  I get that McAdoo runs a more WCO and wants a good balance with the run game.  But the thing that troubles me with this plan, which is essentially what we proclaimed we were trying to do under Brady.  Now, with the incredible improvements we've made on the OL, that system may actually function now...  but, people like pointing to McAdoo's success with GB and NY to a lesser degree...  in both of those instances, he had a QB who could throw it deep, with Rodgers obviously being one of, if not the best in the league at it.  If Corral can't effectively provide that threat, I worry about the ceiling that places on our offense, because eventually it puts us right back where we've been the last 3+ seasons.  I'm just not a fan of the dink and dunk garbage, because eventually the defenses compression the field and we've seen how ugly it can get when your QB can't threaten them downfield - like Darnold's entire game played without a first down.  

So, all that being said, to me, the QB being able to throw it downfield accurately is one of the most important, if not THE most important aspect of an elite offense.  All of the other stuff must be effective, but is all for naught if you can't stretch the field and stress the defense with your multiplicity.  So, the fact that to this point, this issue has been one of the biggest areas Corral has struggled with is a definite concern for me.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't intended to be a "negative nancy" post.  I'm excited about Corral.  I'm just concerned about the deep ball passing, especially when juxtaposed with what Howell offered as a passer had we chose him at that pick.  I hope we can coach him up and get that part of his game consistent and legitimate as a threat on any given play.

 

Eh, more fuel to the fire for Willis. I’m sure I’m the 10 millionth person to mention, Brady was a 6th round pick so yeah.

Rhule probably butthurt because he wanted to trade back into the first for some Temple back up.

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

Looks like WalterFootball making poo up again for clicks

 

Yeah don’t buy it for a second even before seeing this from Billy. No team is trading a first round pick for Brown*.

*well Hurney probably would but still

58 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

He ran TRACK????

People probably don’t realize a 4.93 40 time is faster than what 99% of people posting on this board could put up. And he’s 6’4 320. Just a freak athlete