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1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

But you can do it on Madden!  Seriously though the relentless calls for miracles around this team is Maddening.  It's too fuged up to fix this season and mostly next season as well. 

Buckle folks, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

Just watched that movie last night. Small world I tell ya what.

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

I agree but who would you have gotten and they did put the defense in a shape to win games.. Could they have really fixed the Oline as well this offseason?? They finished 1 major hole now Hopefully next offseason is the Oline turn...

Rhule claimed his number 1 complaint about last year was not getting off the field on 3rd downs. He went about fixing that.

Hopefully, the attack the line with the same gusto this year.

4 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Were they supposed to be able to fixed everything in 1 offseason??

Evidently. Most on here seem to believe it.

Everyone marveled at KC. They needed to redo their line, and went out and spent money, and draft picks. 

And now, Mahomes is hurt. 

Fixing the Oline is not an easy fix. Those who believe it is are lying to themselves.

Edit to add; Bringing in Watson will take resources away from fixing the Oline. 

3 minutes ago, ickmule said:

I've got a problem for sure....It's that I root for this lousy ass franchise. Thankfully since 2015 I care much less than I did. It's comical to me at this point. 

 

I find it humorous that you believe your apathy somehow makes you a Martyr. 

If you really didn't care. You wouldn't be on here so much. You care, come on...say it. lol

The assets is would require to obtain him. Added to the salary he will demand. And it's a no from me.

Bring in Watson, and we have precious few assets to finish the rebuild.

1 hour ago, PootieNunu said:

Rhule watched his college tape. This entire staff bases everything around what they did in college, its not working. 

 

They watched every throw Sam has made since High School. They did their homework. It just seems like it hasn't worked so far. Maybe it still can.

2 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

How could you say compromising our future when we don't have a QB, and this upcoming QB class is one of the weakest in comparison to others...

We have no future to compromise at the moment. 

Not sure where the idea there are no QBs coming out next year started. Cuz there are quite a few QBs that are lighting it up this year. If we go that way, there will be options.

19 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

At this point do not feel near as bad as I did when Teddy threw them under the bus. Brady needs to go under that bus and be ran over repeatedly. He is going to be here until Rhule is fired or he gets a HC gig. As long as Rhule wants to stay connected to Brady he can go under the bus as well. 

I concur 100% on Brady. I am not sure what to do, but something has to be done. Whether by Rhule, or self reflection. Brady needs to help Sam, and not hang him out to dry.

Get Sam some easy completions, then let's see what we can do. 

And of course, hope CMC gets back.

15 hours ago, CanePantherHornet said:

I'd rather have held on to Teddy than have wasted money and draft picks on Darnold. They could have kept building up the team around him then plugged in a rookie when the time was right.

A whole lot of folks seem to conveniently forget how Teddy threw our Coaches under the bus. But yeah, let's keep him. Cuz that's the type of leader we need. Right?

14 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Where's the evidence they can build a program? We keep making idiotic decisions at QB. We continue to neglect the OL.  Our veteran acquisitions this offseason look awful. Our rookie class looks not great. This team is worse than last year's.

Don't you think this is a bit of an overreaction to a bad situation?

Where's the evidence they can build a program? This team has a lot more talent than it did when Rhule got here. Maybe give them more than 1 year, and 7 games to work this out.

We keep making idiotic decisions at QB.  It's year two. A little early to be making definitive statements? Unless you thought the rebuild would be over by now?

Our veteran acquisitions this offseason look awful. If you are talking Offense, then yes, I agree. But the ones on Defense have worked out nicely.

Our rookie class looks not great. Hard to evaluate a draft class after 7 games. And if Great is your bench mark, we may never meet your goal.

This team is worse than last year's. We have more talent this year than last. And we still have 10 games to play. A bit early to call the season over. Right now? It looks bad. But it may get better. Can't we wait until the season is over before we flush it?

20 minutes ago, hepcat said:

I agree, these half measures with veteran stopgap QBs only works if you DRAFT a QB. Having Teddy start while they had a rookie on the bench would have been a solid move. Even Darnold starting while Fields or Jones was on the bench. There's not even a veteran backup to fall back on to get us through this season. It's just going to be a sh*tshow for the rest of the season now.

IMO, you cannot fault Rhule for trying to jump start this rebuild with a Vet QB. It was a calculated risk. 

What we can hold him responsible for? How he fixes this mess. And unfortunately, that won't be this year.

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

Cool beans.  You could just say you have no actual defense of Matt Rhule in the future.  

 

Listen, you quoted me first. It is not my responsibility to answer in a fashion that pleases you. It was my fault for trying to converse in a friendly manner. I will not make that mistake again.

3 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Didn’t mean it as an attack. 

do you think rhule deserves no blame?

He is new to the NFL, so mistakes will happen. But then again, almost every team makes mistakes.

He is good at addressing his mistakes for the most part. Now, if he does something about Brady. That would go a long way with appeasing the fan base.

It's year 2. I think too many people are in a hurry to speed this thing up, and are being overly  critical.

Just now, uncfan888 said:

He is really bad. Gotten progressively worse over the years. How dare you disagree with something the organization does? 

And all you do is attack posters. When was the last time you posted something football related?

I try and post, and this is what I get. Nah, this place ain't toxic.

14 minutes ago, CRA said:

I’ll repeat it.  Every play goes through his ears.  And he has input and the ability to do whatever he wants with it.  

and no a competent OC is not going to do anything with a the worst starting QB in the NFL paired with a bad OL.   Overall he will look horrible.   Brady was a project to begin with.  You give what the Panthers did? Well, it shouldn’t be shock.    That’s on Rhule.  Brady is a freaking pass heavy offensive mind.  That’s what Rhule brought in.  

Nothing about Rhule’s tenure says he is good at addressing problems.  Tepper had a Seattle GM that overly values DB.  That doesn’t make Tepper good at addressing problems.  See QB and OL.  The two biggest problems and they are getting bigger and worse under him. 

You know what? I am not going to get into this with you again. 

You are not a happy camper, and it shows in your posts. I am not letting that get to me. So I respectfully back out.

13 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Man. @iamhubby1 you are a blind Rhule homer lol. Y’all related?

So...attack the poster, not the post. Got it.

8 minutes ago, ickmule said:

Hmmmm….. that debatable.  Unless of course that talent had given up on him, I’m which case he needs to go.  

lol  I like this one. "We don't have talent. But if that talent, that we don't have, quit on the coach, he needs to go."

No arguing that rebuttal.

If you can't look at this team, and see the amount of talent out there? That's a you  problem.

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Rhule hired him.  Every play runs through Rhule’s ear.  

and we know Rhule has say.  Like when he wanted to call a stupid fake punt on his 15. 

and if you gave a competent OC the worst starting QB in the NFL and a horrible OL….they will suck.  As bad as Brady? Who knows.  Brady was always a project.    But they would suck too

 

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Rhule hired him.  Every play runs through Rhule’s ear.  

and we know Rhule has say.  Like when he wanted to call a stupid fake punt on his 15. 

and if you gave a competent OC the worst starting QB in the NFL and a horrible OL….they will suck.  As bad as Brady? Who knows.  Brady was always a project.    But they would suck too

 

I'm not even sure how to respond to this. But here goes.

Sure Rhule calls the trick plays. But if you think he is in on every play call?

A competent OC can make the O work. Maybe not at Tampa Bay level. But better than where it is now. 

Yes Brady is a problem. But...how many OCs were at Rhule's beck and call? Rhule is good at addressing problems. Let's see how this one goes.

10 minutes ago, CanePantherHornet said:

Exactly. For some reason they think they can contend now so they're desperately swinging at the fences and compromising our future in the process.

Rhule wanted to start a winning culture right away. Going with an established  QB should have helped with that. It didn't. 

We are 7 games into the 2nd year of a rebuild. We have not compromised the future.

Just now, ickmule said:

He selected a great deal of the players.  

And this team has a ton more talent than when he started.

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

which is why teams without a QB have to start playing the QB lotto.  Which Rhule and company don't get.  They have brought in established bums and backed them up with his college QB. 

If you have no QB, you draft Fields.  Or you draft Mac.  Or you trade away captial to get one that wasn't going to fall.    And you bring in Menshew.  You bring in actual competition.   You start playing the QB lotto.  

You don't just make Sam Darnold the plan.  If that is your plan, you shouldn't be in charge of a NFL team.  That's college football.  In college, you can get to a decent or good record without being an actually good college football team.   Heck, in college you can be a top 25 team.  And not actually be good.   This is a weird year in college football but in a normal year....you can win games and squeak into the top 25....and not really be good at all in reality.  Still be a 20+ point under dog when you step on the field with one of the really good programs/teams. 

 

Rhule wanted to establish a winning culture sooner rather than later. So he went with experienced QBs. It seems that didn't work. It is no big indictment on his coaching. It was a calculated risk. 

Some rebuilds start with a rookie QB. Rhule tried to bypass that. That has no bearing whatsoever on his ability to coach.

1 minute ago, therealmjl said:

and the blame is squarely on Rhule for not having a competent OC, or literally anyone on the offensive staff who can call plays in the NFL.

Ok fine. Rant away. You want to put all the blame at Rhule's footsteps. Have at it.

Rhule may not have the pool of coaching acquaintances built to the point he can hire anyone he wants. Give the guy a chance. Or not.

Young coach in his first gig. But hey, let's roast him before he even gets started.

I have a crazy idea. Let's see where this goes before we burn it down. Maybe the guy figures it out. Not everybody is ready to light that match. 

1 minute ago, therealmjl said:

Rhule chose him.

Rhule chose Darnold.

The buck stops at Rhule.

Rhule does not call plays. With even a competent OC, this team could compete.

Just now, Carl Spackler said:

Do you think that, in a rebuild, the team's record should get better every year?

I think that if we had an OC with even a modicum of talent. We'd be competitive.