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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

He did not elevate the players around him, but they de-elevated their QB.  A QB like Bryce needs a system, a strong OL, a Running game, and WRs that can get open.  Call him a manager at best, but so is a point guard.  That is all we should need.  He is smart enough to grow into a very effective player. 

I once saw a Coach talking about the OL--i forget who it was Schottenheimer comes to mind--and he said, you can succeed if you have one weak link on the OL.  If you get 2 weak links, success comes 10x harder.  If you get three weak links, your season is over.  Your QB is injured, and you are unemployed (paraphrasing).  I would say that we had 4 weak links (Icky does not get a pass) and a RB who was not good at pass blocking.

I am not saying the Bryce is the answer at QB--but I am saying we don't know yet. I know QBs (college) and when the OL sucks, they collapse mentally over time.  That is what we saw--a QB who had never played without the advantage.

This, 

Plus a bad system which the coaching staff couldn't understand.

1 hour ago, mc52beast said:

It’s probably been said 1000 times but I’ll say it again; you really can’t grade Bryce based on last years clown show. We now have a much better o-line, much better receivers and hopefully much better coaching. Let’s see what Bryce can do THIS year and then grade him.

This, but you can see his problems from last year. This year I most definitely will be judging.

2 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

Jaycee wanted it last year but Burns had dibs iirc.

 

Jaycee shouldn't be able to claim poo until he last a full season.

Sanders should have got number 0.

3 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

I think Panthers can save 4m if they trade him post-June 1.  That might be the play.

Given the disfunction of the panthers offense and the lack of o-line, I could imagine a team sending a 6th for an RB just 1 year removed from 1300 yards and 11 tds.  Maybe a late 6th.

Yep

17 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

When are we able to cut miles Sanders and it not be a terrible cap hit? Hopefully after this season

I heard he will be a June 1 cut

Jalen Coker is making the team for sure. TMJ ✌

Brenden Rice might be next

Panthers need a new scouting team

Damn reach

4 hours ago, CRA said:

Only top 30 visit out those guys was Payton Wilson I think. 

think you might have to out him as the favorite target on that list 

I’d say Walker and Rice would be the 2 favorites in the 3rd round too.  Carolina could have a real Carolina draft. 

This

12 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

You all know with our great track record of bluffing that we’re gonna take the Michigan CB 

Yep

Not what I wont but I believe 

JPJ at 33 and Legette at 39. 

Or 

Legette or Coleman at 33 and Sainristil at 39

Completely fine with that draft 

54 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Kaye gets you two in his final mock

PANTHERS 7-ROUND MOCK DRAFT HAUL

Second round (33rd overall pick): Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas

Trade with Packers: CAR trades the 39th overall pick (via NYG) to GB for 41st (via NYJ) and 126th overall picks.

Second round (41st overall pick via GB from NYJ): Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M

Third round (65th overall pick): Ben Sinnott, TE, Kansas State

Fourth round (101st overall): Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri

Fourth round (126th overall via GB): Braelon Allen, RB, Wisconsin

Fifth round (141st overall via NYG): Brenden Rice, WR, Southern California

Fifth round (142nd overall via TEN): Beaux Limmer, C, Arkansas

Seventh round (240th overall pick via PIT): Evan Anderson, NT, Florida Atlantic

 

 

 

 

Seems close to what players Caroline been visiting with

5 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

I would be surprised if they prioritized RB over CB. Jaycee, Dane Jackson, and Troy Hill is all we have. People find starting level RB's on day 3 all the time

Both Benson and Brooks had private visits. Both are projected 2nd-3rd round. 

Really think the plan is Legette in the 2nd and Rice in the 4th. Even though I wouldn't like it. 

He said they met with him multiple times, well they met with Brenden Rice multiple times also. 

So are they drafting both?

1 hour ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

I think we could very well draft XL in the 2nd round, but I think it's more likely to be with #39. I think we go defense with #33, trade down, or take a higher-rated WR prospect who falls out of the 1st round.

This all the way, or a center at 33. 

8 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Swap one of those bottom 2 for Bortolini from Wisconsin and I'm all for it. 

Exactly

2 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Aren't Thielen and Diontae Johnson's contracts up after next season? Thielen might retire after next year and Johnson is looking for a BIG payday. If the Panthers can somewhat replace both of those guys in this WR-heavy draft, wouldn't that open up a ton of resources in 2025 to apply to other areas? I just think this should be an offensive draft. A Center, 2 WRs, and a maybe TE - though I'm fairly high on Tremble. There are a bunch of low-floor WRs even in the 3rd/4th rounds. Stout Centers and play making TEs will be available there too. This defense needed a couple of pieces after losing Luvu, Burns, and Bell. All replaced with accomplished vets. The offense needed an entire friggin overhaul. No one played well. Playcallers included.  

The focus should be on offense, but if a defensive player is there, that's a game changer you take him. 

1 hour ago, Mother Grabber said:

don’t see Ladd McConkey on the list, so that must be who we are really targeting 

They met with him at the combine and at his pro day. 

2 hours ago, Basbear said:

Yea I over looked the list last week and had the thought "this list seems like the plan is to trade back one of the 2s...."

Still need to see how Morgan attacks the draft, cause young talent is the biggest need for this team. The track record, no matter the GM.... for rounds 2-4 is dogshit. Even finding just average players in the mid-late would be a great start....

Yeah I believe pick 39 gets traded. It depends who on the board at 33, but think someone too good to pass will be there. 

4 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

reported top 30 visits as of April 16th (18/30):

WRs (5)
USC Brenden Rice
Western Kentucky Malachi Corley
Texas Xavier Worthy
Washington Jalen McMillan
Oregon Troy Franklin

RBs (2)
Texas Jonathon Brooks
Florida State Trey Benson

TEs (2)
Kansas State Ben Sinnott
Texas Ja’Tavion Sanders

OL (2)
Arizona Jordan Morgan
Oregon Jackson Powers-Johnson

EDGE (2)
Kansas Austin Booker
Western Michigan Marshawn Kneeland

DTs (2)
Clemson Ruke Orhorhoro
LSU Maason Smith

LBs (2)

Kentucky Trevin Wallace
Texas A&M Edgerrin Cooper
NC State Payton Wilson

A lot of 2nd and 3rd round players. Some later rounds. Missing players on the list also. 

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