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7 hours ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

I've been doing some critical thinking. It seems that most fans are ready to go back to mediocrity. I include myself in this. Yes what Wilks did was nothing short of amazing. But if you really think about it. He went 6-6.  The guy before the fraud we had at HC was that. Mediocre. It's a reccuring theme it seems. Look at buffalo. Another Rivera tree product is up there and they are a playoffs team loaded with talent with a franchise QB and they.. can't.  Get. Over. The. Hump.  We're seeing it play out. Daboll left and all of a sudden the Bills aren't as good in offense. McDermott is still there but I digress. 

 

Honestly it's time to move on from the same thing that this team does over and over and over again and expects different outcomes. Yeah we'll be a playoffs team, sure it will be a good story to see Wilks that's from Charlotte have success but the writing is on the wall, he comes from that same tree of mediocrity. I for one am tired of that. It's time to go a different direction. No I don't want Payton. Or Dorsey. Steichen is the guy. Sirianni told him to take over and Hurts is basically an MVP candidate all of a sudden. He's the guy.  /Rant over. 

Has the exact conversation with a friend the other night. If you want Wilks then you better be in the camp who also thought we should have kept Rivera. 
 

That’s fine…Rivera is a good coach. Wilks will be too. But neither have shown they have what it takes to be transcendent. Someone please tell me the last time a guy got hired essentially as a first time head coach at age 53? He’d be like the 5th oldest coach in the league during his first year as our HC. 
 

And I’ll say it again…The game that sealed it for me was the Bucs game. It was a must win (could have won) situation and the worst unit on the field was his specialty (the secondary). They got absolutely torched and we lost bc of it. If that’s his MO and he can’t take over that unit and fix the scheme when Darnold was actually playing well for once..then no he shouldn’t get the job.

I put zero stock in the players wanting him as HC. Players don’t want a coach like Belichick or maybe even Sean Payton…they’re grinders. Guess who else the players really liked up until he was fired? Matt Rhule. “Players coach.” They went to bat for him week after week…and he sucked.

1 hour ago, ladypanther said:

The requirement was spelled out and well communicated.  Ignoring it seems dumb.

This is what happens when someone is given a serious job with serious responsibilities and they see it as a “fun” thing to do. Details get ignored and missed. 

If they fire Fitterer they’re a bunch of morons. The only circumstances I wouldn’t want Payton would be if he doesn’t want Fitt. Fitt trumps all for me…

5 hours ago, Xtreme said:

Rather go with Ben Johnson. 

How many fans on here are old enough to remember how utterly horrific the Saints were before Sean Payton got there?

They were legitimately one of the worst franchises in all of sports. He turned them into a perennial winner, a Super Bowl champion, and completely changed their fortunes. 
 

If we hire Payton then we just hired probably one of the best 2-3 coaches in all of football. If we hire Payton AND get Lamar Jackson…get ready. With what we have on defense and the OL it will be the beginning of the greatest run in the history of this franchise. 

I would do this if we hired Sean Payton and he wanted Lance…otherwise he’s basically a QB that one of the great QB whisperers gave up on so I have no interest. 

Darnold, Corral and Stroud, Young, Levis. 

On 1/8/2023 at 11:25 PM, TheCasillas said:

If Tepper wants a hot shot offensive guru… then Ben Johnson is the guy. What he game planned in the 2nd half tonight for the Lions was brilliant.

 

i want.

Same question as with all these guys…who’s the staff he’ll bring? 

17 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

She is the team president... of course she is going to be apart of the hiring process. It doesnt mean she is a key decision maker, she is just part of the process.  She has been in role almost a year now. 

I guess that begs the question….what qualifications does one have to have in order to be the president of an NFL team? 
 

The team president of the 9ers started his career at comcast, worked as a consultant for the NFL, NHL, MLB, and NBA and has been involved with football since high school…and is the CEO of another big sports media company. 

The chiefs President is Mark Donovan who’s been on the industry for 3 decades. His bio is massive but here is an except:

“Donovan arrived in Kansas City after six years with the Philadelphia Eagles as Senior Vice President of Business Operations (2003-08). Prior to joining the Eagles, Donovan held leadership roles as the NFL's Senior Director of Sales and Marketing (1999-2003) and the Director of Sales and Marketing for the National Hockey League (1997-99). He also brings seven years of experience in the private business sector.”

I get that Nicole Tepper is the president and likely it’s a role given bc DT wants to be the final say on basically every decision (which I have no problem). But…Giving any person the title of president of a billion dollar company when there are competition out there like Al Guido and Mark Donovan is ridiculous. I would say the job of president may be the most difficult job in the entire building. 

1 hour ago, Catsfan69 said:

Dude if it's a normal break that can be cast and not made worse yes he should play.

FFS nobody is saying he should be playing with a compound spiral fracture. 

ESPN reported its a distal radius. I’m assuming bc they didn’t know at first it would be a buckle type of fx. If you re-injure and and fracture it further causing displacement then it would likely require surgery (if it doesn’t already). 
 

Wrist fractures aren’t hand injuries. They’re more common but more complicated and carry more significant risk of nerve injury that could cause permanent dysfunction. So…he’s probably done. 

11 hours ago, hepcat said:

I like Steve Wilks but I really don’t care which coach the players want. Most of them won’t be here in 3 years let alone next year. 

This. 

The only caveat imo is that if Fitt is looking for a defensive minded head coach there’s no reason to go in a different direction from Wilkes. If he wants an O minded HC then Wilkes is gone and id back up the Brinks truck for Payton and do everything possible to get Lamar Jackson (bc that’s who Payton is going to want). 

10 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

OK, I'll do it:

Josh Allen - 1st

Pat Mahomes - 1st

Joe Burrow - 1st

Ryan Tannehill - 1st

Lamar Jackson - 1st

Herbert - 1st

Tua - 1st

And let's remember that the AFC is the better conference, sooooooooooooooooooooooo....

The only thing this list proves is that the NFC is garbage this year. Other than Hurts the NFC list is weak. 

Fitterer is going to have the toughest personnel decisions of his life this off-season. 
 

1. Do you keep Wilkes?

2. Do you roll with Corral coming off an injury? 
 

If either of those decisions is wrong it could set this franchise back another 2-3 years at least.

Drake Maye got dominated tonight. Zero explosive plays. He’s a good player but he’s not better than Stroud or Young. 
 

Bryce Young is the closest thing to Deshaun Watson I’ve seen. Stroud reminds me of Josh Allen. 

15 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

This roster is a plug and play QB away from competing. Adding Carr for a couple of mid

rounders and then beefing up the roster with the rest of the picks is a pretty appetizing scenario.

 

raiders would be dumb to trade him, but him

in black and blue and even more young studs around him… that sounds like an intriguing scenario.

You couldn’t get him last year for less than the Stafford deal. So….yeah I would trade for him on a discounted price bc the Raiders suck. Use the 1st this year to take Anderson and a 2nd to take Carr. Hire a great offensive HC to run it (Payton). 

17 hours ago, trueblade said:

Brandon Staley was a DC before he got the Chargers job, but you seem to have listed him among offensive-minded coaches if I'm reading your list right.

He was a QB in college. But you’re right his coaching experience is on defense. In any event…the vast majority of these impressive young QBs are being coached up by offensively minded head coaches. Hell…Brian Daboll has Daniel Jones playing well enough that Victor Cruz is banging the drum for him to get an extension. He was all but a bust last year. Daboll is an offensive minded coach. 

6 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

He's certainly accomplished more with much less than an coach I coach that I can remember.  I would love nothing more than to see him succeed here.

It would only be fair to allow him be given a chance to pick his coordinators and QB at least to get a shot here. 

To me there's just something unfair about the opportunity he's been given to prove himself here. 

As long as he drafts a QB….IDC. But the reality is that the rookie QBs have done better with offensive minded HCs. Not defensive coaches. 
 

Pickett - Struggling with defensive minded Tomlin

Willis - Not playing/not impressive defensive minded Vrabel. 

Hurts - Playing really well with O minded Siriani 

Mac Jones - Belichick (defense) - Not great

TUA - Went from D minded Flores to O minded McDaniel…stud now. 

Mahomes - Andy Reid

Herbert - Brandon Staley - Stud

Lawrence - Playing much better under Pederson 

Fields - Still struggling under Eberflus who is a former DC. 

Burrow - Zac Taylor - O minded 

Josh Allen - unicorn but is thriving under McDermott who is D minded 

So of the best young QBs recently..Mahomes, Herbert, Tua, Hurts, Burrow are far and away the best young QBs. They’re all coached by offensive minded HCs. Josh Allen is a Unicorn. Lamar is playing great hut has ups and downs and Harbaugh is neither O nor D. 

Multiple guys last few years with basically stress foot injuries (likely from playing on turf repeatedly)….you’d think this would be top of mind for Tepper. Lost our 1st round pick last year and he’s still a little hobbled. Lost our drafted QB this year. I don’t get the turf dogma.

I think Stroud has the most upside. So I would take Stroud and let him sit. If Corrall balls out coming off an injury then you have an extremely valuable asset (whichever QB doesn’t win the job).

10 hours ago, 45catfan said:

We need a stud MLB in the draft.  Shaq needs to be out of the picture.  Luvu will the be veteran presence.  My top 3 targets are QB, TE and MLB.  Now that we have a second 2nd rounder, I'd like a bookend to Burns.

We need ALOT. We need a WR2 as well unless for some reason Marshall is able to put something on film with a corpse as his QB which I find highly unlikely. 
 

I think for TE you have to go after a pass catching vet like Gesicki and pair him with Tremble. You can’t use another draft pick on a TE. We’ve already burned two high picks on Tremble and Thomas. WR is a more important position and we currently have one legit receiver. 
 

I definitely agree we need another domino to fall tho. If it’s me I would try trading Shaq and Donte. Three years and $32 mil is pretty friendly deal for a guy who’s a solid corner. Panthers could get a 3rd and cap relief from DJ IMO.

20 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Just read this article on Yahoo about Bryce Young: https://sports.yahoo.com/bryce-youngs-nfl-draft-prospects-are-dogged-by-questions-about-his-size-and-thats-about-it-173848416.html

It's about something I think is going to be a major question for us this off-season: Young's size.

Young is pretty clearly the most NFL-ready QB in this draft. If he were a few inches taller and a few pounds heavier I think he'd be the slam-dunk #1 pick.

Which begs the question: just how important are those few inches and pounds? Enough to bypass Young in favor of a Will Levis or C.J. Stroud?

I'm starting to think the answer may be no.

He is THIRTY POUNDS lighter than Jalen Hurts. THIRTY. 
 

What the hell was the Alabama strength coach doing with him in the off-season? He’s got to put on weight. There isn’t enough accuracy difference imo between him and Stroud to take him over Stroud. Stroud is 2inches taller and 20th a heavier. He could easily get up to 225lbs. 
 

Levis is 6’3” 231. He’s already NFL size. 
 

These are the same arguments people were making for Tua/Herbert. Who would now take Tua over Herbert? Nobody. 
 

If there is a close talent gap or “what did you put on film” gap…you go with the measurables. 
 

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

could you get a 5th for him?

I think you could get a 3rd for him. What linebacker doesn’t seem overpaid that’s making $14mil/year or more?

The problem with Shaq is the same problem as everyone on our defense…they’re being asked to play out of position. Shaq isn’t a MLB. He’s a WLB or a Big Nickel. It’s kinda funny that he was really the Chinn before Chinn. Then we asked him to be a pure linebacker as the next TD and he gets eaten up by OL.

So we took a linebacker that was a good cover LB and a really good blitzing LB and forced him into the box at the same time we lost Keuchly. So….no wonder the dude didn’t live up to billing. I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes to Buffalo or Washington and lights it up. In fact if he played for Buffalo as a big nickel he’d be a stud. Can you imagine them lining up Von Miller on the edge with Shaq and Tremaine Edmunds behind him. You’d have zero idea where the rush was coming from. 

They’re gonna gut the roster before that happens. They need to trade CMC immediately. We’re 6 games in. There’s no way he’s making it the whole season. You’ve got to trade him. 

Bottom line:

Jimmy G comes out and balls out against us and wins in CLT…Rhule is finished. 
 

Rhule has said all along he wants )and has had) roster decision making final authority. There’s zero reason we couldn’t have acquired JG instead of Baker. He signed off on Baker. JG throwing dimes to Deebo while Baker gets balls batted down and CMC/DJ are misused in this garbage offense is the final nail. 

Our issue is the same as it has been since Rhule got here. We don’t have a QB and unlike other top coaches, Rhule can’t gameplan and win without an elite QB. Hell…who knows if he can win WITH an elite QB. 
 

But the issue isn’t the DL, secondary, OL, RBs, WRs. These are all proven position groups at one point or another in their careers. The issue is the QB and HC. No proven track record at those spots. At this point Rhule has used up his bluffs and needs to be replaced. BUT…He won’t be replace during the season. 
 

What difference would that make? We’d be eliminated from the playoffs. We’d have a lame duck coach. Tepper would have to contend with the “did the lame duck do enough to keep the job” talk. Which NEVER works out. Then worst case scenario is even while we’re eliminated the lame duck coach figures out a way to win some games with the only reward being….losing draft status. 
 

I actually think the smartest play if we lose this week (and maybe no matter what) would be to trade CMC and get picks…almost ensuring we finish as one of the worst 3 teams in the league. Rhule will walk at the end of the year I’m almost positive. He’s getting to the point where he’s not even gonna get a good college job if he doesn’t leave soon. You can’t go 4-5 years with zero success and then land an elite job. He could still potentially get one at this point. 

31 minutes ago, davos said:

I don't understand what McAdoo is doing with Moore and CMC.  It's bewildering how ineffective he's made them.  Brady at least had plays built into his rather bland playbook that were tailored to get them space and work with their strengths. 

If anything, I think Brady may have had the right idea but it was way too simplified and easily figured out.

McAdoo just has the wrong idea.

I don’t understand how 50% of our plays aren’t screen/handoff/direct snaps to DJ and CMC.  
 

Let’s say it increases our off efficiency and we have an additional 12 plays per game. That’s be about a 15-20% increase on our current plays per game. So you’re at 18 touches per player per game. That should be easily doable. Why’d we sign DJ if we’re not making him the focus of our gameplan. I get if you want to limit CMC. But getting the ball in DJs hands 15-20x per game should be a priority. 

Everyone is pretty rough on Derrick Brown. What if it’s just that he’s literally the only player on D built to stop the run and he can’t do it alone?