Billy Goat

What a dumb challenge. Best case it's 4th and inches and the Panthers are almost certainly going to convert that. Worst case you've wasted a timeout for nothing.

Wouldn't have even got the 1st down if he caught it. Dumb play call.

Should've been running on 3rd down.

You don't sit the guy with back to back 200 yard games. Very strange decision.

I swear to god every time we come up against a good receiver Evero refuses to let Horn follow them.

fug the refs. That roughing the passer call was pure BS.

Not sure what's worse, a beat writer not having any idea about it or a beat writer having actually written about it and then completely forgetting. I wouldn't be surprised if he's using ChatGPT to generate most of the crap he writes.

4 minutes ago, CarolinaSock said:

He didn't lead them to a win, Rico and the defense did.

He threw a couple of touchdowns and made big throws at important moments. Obviously Dowdle was a big part in the come back but so was the QB. Whether we think he's the guy or not to say he should be benched after that game is silly and no, there isn't an organisation in the NFL who would bench him after that game.

He played bad in that first quarter, but you can't bench him after leading the team to a win after being 17-0 down.

We should be leaning on Dowdle and Chuba for the rest of the season. The new double trouble.

Is the guy calling the game a Miami fan?

Aside from the fact it was a crappy throw, he was throwing into triple coverage. This guy is just complete garbage at this point. Get him gone.

He's in his third year. This sort of crap is what you'd expect from a 1st year QB. He hasn't built on the final few games of last season and he's as bad as he was for the first part of 2024. They need to start thinking about what QB they want in next year's draft.

He's not going to be fired before he gets a chance with his own QB. Bryce and Evero will be gone at some point this season/off-season and Canales will get one more year with a new QB and DC.

Put Hendon Hooker in. At least he looks like a QB.

So let's take a look at the first half and compare to last year.

- Still cut up in the run game

- Still missing tackles 

- Still dropping catches 

Same poo different day.

These guys whiffing on tackles again just like last year. Get rid of all the defensive staff.

Hunter has small guy energy.

There will probably be a run on rushers early in the second round so the question is if they trade up or not. If they do it's probably best to do it before the run starts and have their choice of all of them, rather than panic trade when there's one or two left.

39 minutes ago, SOJA said:

Verge is reporting the walker interest is a giant smokescreen

A smokescreen in order to draft someone (Williams) nobody in the top 10 is going to touch. That's not really how smokescreens work.

27 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I don't buy that Morgan or anyone else said we'd give a F'ING discount. That's the most absurd thing I have heard all week. No front office is going to say that. Probably more networks trying to manipulate the draft. 

I CALL B. S. 

The moving up/down talk always goes crazy the closer it gets to the draft because it's the most interesting thing to talk about for the media heads. Once it gets to draft night none of these moves end up happening. I'd say the odds are still heavily in favour of us picking at 8.

11 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

Would love that. 

All depends on who they trade with. If it was with the Bears as is speculated from Joe Person then it's only moving down two spots, so you probably would only get their 3rd rounder and would likely have to give them some day 3 picks. Or swap 1st/2nd rounders and give them a day 3 pick.

I don't think they're going to get a second rounder unless they trade into the lower half of the 1st round, but it seems like most of the movement is from teams around them. In that case the trades are likely going to be mediocre.

As I said in another thread, you can pretty much guarantee they'll package some picks to move back up if they move down. So they won't be drafting more guys, just drafting more of the top 100 talent. 

We will probably get a late second rounder to move down in the first and then package a 3rd and one of the 4ths to move back into the end of the 2nd round to have three 2nd round picks.

3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Verge has really spiced this up a bit with her Mykel Williams prediction (based on an inside and an outside source) and the fact that she called Jalon Walker a "smokescreen" (or agreed to that description).  The fact of the matter:  I see neither as a good fit based on their college play.

If Graham goes off the board at 7, I am praying for a trade back.

With all due respect to Verge and her sources, there's too many people (those in the media who would actually have a clue) saying Walker is the guy for me to believe any talk of Williams being the preferred choice. Maybe if their absolute goal is to trade down then I can buy it, but I don't think that is in any way linked to creating a smokescreen around Walker. Nobody in the top 8 is going to draft Williams so why create smoke around Walker to blow them off the scent?

My personal reading of the situation surrounding our first pick would be as follows

Option 1 - Draft someone not expected to fall (Graham)

Option 2 - Receive a good deal to trade down

Option 3 - Jalon Walker

I think the only thing that throws a spanner in the works is if Graham falls to us, which seems a distinct possibility at this point.