Billy Goat

11 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

Great trade. Basically turned Burns into an extra 2nd AND got the guy we wanted.

Yeah the Burns compensation when you factor in the Rams trade was two 2nds and two 5ths. Turned out quite well in the end, although obviously not as good as it could have been a year earlier.

Pleased with this one. Good value and a need.

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I bet our pick has an RAS of 9+.

This is probably why TJ Tampa won't be the pick.

Morgan said he's been picking BPA (not sure I believe that but whatever). He also said they want to come away with a corner today or find one after the draft. The BPA right now is a corner. So no, I wouldn't trade out of that pick.

Training camp is roughly 8 months since the injury, so I don't see why he won't be there for that. 8-9 months seems the new norm with this type of injury recovery.

Tampa is BPA and fills a need. That would be a great value pick. I'd like one of Tampa, Franklin or Sanders. Please just take BPA with this pick and don't trade down.

Oh boy.

At this point just take your guy. Moving down and getting a second rounder makes sense. Moving down for pick 157, a player that's likely off the roster in a year a two, is pointless.

That's a dumb trade.

1 minute ago, RJK said:

What’d they give up?

142, 155, swapped seconds.

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

there is literally no difference

I mean there is. Seattle drafted Metcalf in the 2nd and gave him a $72m extension after year 3, before he got into the final year of his rookie deal. If they had drafted him in the 1st round he'd be getting that deal 1 year later and they'd be saving a ton of cap space.

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

2nd round is a 4 year deal.

Yeah I know that. You were suggesting if he can play he'll get a deal before the 5th year (like Deonte Brown) making the 5th year not that important. My point is if he was a second rounder who can play they'd be looking to extend him before that 4th year. The 5th year option gives them at least one year extra having him on a rookie salary. For a potential WR1 that's at least $20m in cap savings.

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

its roughly 60 spots all for a guy that our damn head coach said he still needed work.   It doesnt make sense.  Like at all.  The 5th year option isnt that important, if the kid can play he will get a second deal, if we have to ride it out to year 5 then we have fuged up somehow.  It just makes no sense to not going into thursday night with the 33 pick with potentially still getting the player you wanted and not see what type of offers you can get.  Its classic panther panicking 

Well if they have the 5th year option they have him on a rookie contract for 4 years before needing to worry about an extension. If they took him at 33 they'd be paying him after 3 years. If he pans out that will save them what, at least $20m in cap space for 1 year?

Chances of a 5th rounder becoming a solid starter are below 10%. I don't really understand why people are butthurt over giving that up. Sure hate the pick, but the trade was fine.

No real issue with the trade. It's worth giving up a 5th rounder (considering they have two close together) for that extra year on the contract. I would've taken Mitchell though.

In his latest mock he had us trading back for an extra 5th and a second rounder next year. That doesn't exactly help with the "other positional needs".

I don't really see the point in trading 33 if you're not getting an extra pick or picks this year. You're giving up the opportunity to take whoever falls out of the first round and only get what's likely a mid second rounder 12 months in the future.

Sure we don't have a second rounder next year but we have a first, so if they want to get that second rounder back just trade down in next years first round. That's assuming Bryce works out. If he doesn't they'll have bigger problems than not having a second round pick.

They should with one of those second rounders. You'd more than likely be getting the top 1/2 player at the position and in a position of need. That won't be the case for any other position of need.

Joe Person has us taking Legette at 39 in his 2.0 mock. He had us trading away 33 to the Jags for 48, 153 and a 2025 second rounder. Another terrible trade to go with the one he had in his first mock.

This happens every year with one specific group. 8 WRs aren't going to go in round 1. Once the first 4/5 are off the board teams will start picking up the better talent from other position groups.

7 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Tez in 30's? egh

Yeah that would be reaching. Almost definitely there to be had at the top of the 3rd if they wanted him.

I could've sworn we made a trade for a very good WR this off-season and didn't have to give up a draft pick to do it.

All set up for a WR at pick 33 after this.