Billy Goat

1 minute ago, CarolinaSock said:

Even on that throw, Thielen had to slow down or it would have been behind him.

This is a classic case of nitpicking. It was a good throw.

That was so dumb. You can run it 4 times from there. There was no need for that passing play.

That's two really bad throws.

Dropped another one. Not the best throw but this guy been running his mouth like he's something special and he can't even bring in a floated ball that hit him in his chest.

Just now, KSpan said:

Bryce with yet another underthrow downfield.

And yet if Thielen catches that it's a great pass. You have to just acknowledge it was great play on defense.

It's likely the line will be a lot better next year with Christensen at LT and Icky at LG (which is how I see it playing out). I don't see them taking OL in the 2nd or 3rd and they will most likely use free agency for some depth guys on the line. I think the first pick will be a TE or WR, dependant on if Bowers is there. That's how I'd go as well.

Chubba has been running all over them. It should've been two running plays when it was 3rd and 1. That was terrible playcalling.

8 hours ago, NYPantherFan said:

Panthers would get a draft pick if he gets a HC job, right? I'm convinced that's the only reason Tepper hired two minority coordinators.

A 3rd rounder in 2024 and 2025 if he gets a HC job.

Fitterer will be gone at some point too, as will the rest of the coaches because chances are any new GM will want his own guys. For that reason it doesn't really matter that Evero gets the interim job or not, he likely won't be here whatever happens.

Get rid of Reich. Some of the situational playcalling is beyond bad, nevermind the offensive scheme as a whole.

Great way to kill a drive, Frank.

Not really sure that's what he's doing. It's more an admission that they all completely misjudged the ability of the guys up front to pass protect. Reich came in and implemented his usual offense and the personnel hasn't fit.

Do we really think Reich wanted to come here and be a run heavy team?

12 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

Really surprised at 1-9 that a position coach is not at least being fired 

Especially when you take into account that the performances in every game have been bad/very bad. There's not one thing where you can say it's worth letting it play out because we've seen glimpes of potential.

This is why Tepper has to act and Dutch Reich. He has a lot invested in Young in terms of draft capital. He has to give it a fair shake for at least one more year with a coordinator who'll create an offence to suit the QB. If he looks poo after that then you have to rip it up and start again in the 2025 draft.

Reich needs to be fired. He was sold as an offensive guru and QB whisperer and both facets of the team have been terrible. Our very good OLine from one year ago has regressed to the point of being worst in the league because said offensive guru has gone with a scheme that exposes their deficiencies.

Young will get at least another season because we don't have another 1st round pick, so whoever comes in will likely be told they get a pass next year no matter the results and if Young doesn't pan out year 2 they can have their QB in the 2025 draft.

2 hours ago, Mage said:

I'm tired of taking turns firing GMs and HCs.  If we fire Fitt (and we should), then we need to fire Reich too.  Start over completely.  Have the next GM have a big say in the next HC.

Ordinarily that's what should happen but it makes no difference with the Panthers. Tepper wants to be involved in every process and the GM will not have sole control over these decisions. We are stuck with a billionaire owner thinking he can apply his business acumen to a sports franchise.

Sanders killed that drive. The guy shouldn't even be on the field, he is rubbish.

Nobody open there but he needs to learn to throw it away.

This offensive line is worse than garbage.

Sounds good but the reality is they will have two picks in the top 5 and can have their pick of the top rushers in next year's draft. There's no need for them to make a trade like that.

I don't really have a problem with trading for guys if the deal is right. We used a second rounder on TMJ and he hasn't ever got over 500 yards so it doesn't really make sense to me to be against giving up a 3rd or 4th rounder for someone like Jeudy who has had 900 yards (give or take) a couple of times.

That's not to say I want Jeudy because there's clearly some issues there and his salary is probably more than you'd want to pay, but generally speaking trading for that sort of standard of player wouldn't be an issue for me. What are the chances of getting a 900 yards receiver with a 3rd round pick in the draft?

If someone offers a first and a day two pick then I think they'll trade him. Better to do that than pay him more than you think he's worth out of desperation, or for him to hold out if he's tagged.

Makes the next few weeks interesting at least. If the offense gets better and we manage to win 5 or 6 games between now and week 17 some big decisions will need to be made at the end of the season. Brown likely gets interest for HC vacancies in that scenario and they'll need to decide if they're going to part ways with Rice in order to keep Brown.

He was fine today. Had some good throws into tight windows, had some bad throws and managed to not turn the ball over.

I like to look at the whole situation in the context of him playing on a team with one good WR and a banged up offensive line. Far from an ideal situation for a rookie QB.

Cut Marshall. Terrible.