mbarbour21

3 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

My fear is dak is gonna dink and dunk all over us down the field to stop all the pressure.

I'm hoping we use some of those coverage disguises. Have us showing blitz but then have some drop back into passing lane. Hopefully, that will cause an INT this Sunday.

I would be for it honestly. I wouldn't expect it unless it came very cheap. What does the Colts need? We got some more TEs. lol!

I think this game lets us see where Darnold is. He did well after losing CMC in the middle of the game and did what he needed to do to win. Can he start the game with the defense knowing we don't have CMC and having a game plan specifically for Darnold? I think our defense does well and forces turnovers. BIG day for Robby in my opinion. We shall see. I think it is a win for us. 

1 hour ago, mbarbour21 said:

At this rate, it is only a matter of time before we dump that Reddick guy.....

REALLY?! LOL! 

Did yall really poo my post HAHA! Yall need to learn sarcasm.  Way to go guys....

44 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Are you saying you would not trade your rookie late round draft pick 4th WR as part of a package for a starting quality OL?

I'll give you time to consider your answer carefully.

LOL! No dude, I'm not saying that I wouldn't. That would just be dumb. I'm saying that if Shi plays well enough to be WR 3/4, then we should keep him and trade Robby instead. We have Moore, Marshall, and CMC as the first three targets outside of Robby. Maybe Tremble becomes a viable target as well. Shi is on a rookie deal for 4 years and we got people that will be getting PAID on the defense. We need to pay DJ Moore as well. Reddick is gonna pull in BANK!!! We have to bring him back though!!! Trading Shi (if he garnered as much trade capital as Robby) and keeping Robby would be dumb because of age and salary/contract.

My point overall though IS, we ain't getting no starter on the OL for a 4th string receiver who is unproven. No body is giving up starting o-lineman for 4th string receivers. You gonna trade Moton for Amari Rodgers?

I'll give you time to consider your answer carefully.

2 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

"...I am not putting it past Fitty and Rhule to pull another one off at some point, say maybe trading Shi Smith (gonna have a hard time getting the ball thrown his way as much as he deserves being the 4th WR)"

There would be no reason to trade Shi. If he makes himself worthy of that spot and we feel like we can succeed by trading a receiver that will be Robby. (unless he has a no trade clause)

I don't want to see him leave, but we just spent all that money extending him and we have a lot of guys on the defensive side that will require a pay day. Plus, Robby's numbers are not that good. If we wanted to trade for a starting caliber offensive lineman, it won't be for a WR # 3/4.   

At this rate, it is only a matter of time before we dump that Reddick guy.....

13 minutes ago, portcity said:

Melvin played a lot the last 2 weeks and I don't remember a single thing bad being said about him. I don't remember him much myself. Maybe he just won the spot?

Steve Smith basically called him trash. lol!

3 minutes ago, davos said:

Totally.  Should also be noted how much they still used Ian instead of Dan at times so I imagine Tremble is about to leapfrog to TE1 and Ian holds his role.  Holding onto that extra TE seems to have paid off IMO (results pending)

I think either way this was a fantastic move. Dan Arnold isn't winning us a Championship. We can afford to drop a TE. We can not afford to drop a CB, not one of Horn's caliber. Even if this doesn't work out it was a very good shot. Very low risk, HIGH reward. Sort of the Fitterer way.  

Jumped at the chance to draft Fields, so never drafted Horn.

Resigned Curtis Samuel. (Therefore, he would not have brought in Reddick, Fox, or Jones.)

Extended DJax before his play this year.

Traded or released Carter last year.

Sign and start Richard Sherman for the next 5 years.

7 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

In my mind the Horn injury will affect us more than CMC, so this could be a great move if he can stay healthy and reach his potential. Our defense is what will make us a contender, and losing Horn is huge. So far he has proven to be the right pick.

I completely agree with this. The CMC injury hurt, but we have other weapons and ways to scheme around the loss. After Horn went down there were questions on whether we would have to change our scheme defensively. Which is far more impactful IMO. CMC was not going to win us playoff games. This defense though is another story. We could have beaten the Saints with 3 FGs. LOL!

*CMC coming back to an offense that started meshing without him....

1 minute ago, Tommy Jone said:

We're headed to the playoffs this year.

5 minutes ago, joemac said:

You're right - BUT, there is no need to rush him back this year.  Broken bones heal, and when they do, they should be back to as strong as before the break.  I really don't see any scenario where Horn is back this year.

I completely agree here. Management understands it isn't worth rushing him back to cause a more serious situation. Bring in another guy, then tell JC to take his time and get ready. I think Henderson gives us the ability to say that and fully mean it. lol! I don't think it takes us out of the Sherman deal, if he plans on playing safety. Burris got hurt too right? Anyone heard anything on that....I haven't heard it mentioned. 

10 minutes ago, t96 said:

LOVE LOVE LOVE IT. What the hell is Jacksonville doing, that is an absolute steal for a top 10 pick at CB. I liked Dan Arnold and will miss him but time for our boy Tommy Tremble to step up even more. What a fuging trade baby. Especially once Horn comes back this CB group is INSANE. Unfortunately for fans of Donte this could mean he's gone after this year as we now have Horn and Henderson locked up for cheap.

Yeah, I see no reason of keeping him. That isn't a knock on him, but we also have Taylor on a rookie contract too. And who knows what we will do in the draft next year. 

9 minutes ago, TheoJay10 said:

Arnold has 11 targets with 7 receptions for 84 yards and 0 TD’s. He is not a favorite target. Yes Tremble and Thomas have less targets but that will change significantly soon. Robby will get fed the ball more soon. Shi Smith will be back soon. Zylstra has not looked half bad at all. Arnold will be an after thought once we realize later this year and going forward we have 2 very young talents at DB. Like do any of y’all realize in theory what just happened.

With CMC out, other people are bound to get more targets. TE targets should go up significantly. I hate to lose Arnold after seeing him make some good plays, but our defense was FREAKIN elite. If we have to change the whole scheme we are fuggggggged. I like the trade. Smart IMO.

I have to believe playing with our defense will put him in a great position to succeed. No way the Jags front seven are as good as ours. 

My only question is, will he be good to start against the Cowboys Sunday? Because if so, I am a lot more confident going in. I really hope this means Tremble will get some more looks. 

6 hours ago, TheBigKat said:

Their O line makes ours look like All Pro

Yeah, he didn't even have time to run for his life. lol!

2 minutes ago, ThPantherFan said:

He should be no problem.

He SHOULD be no problem, but with our o-line.....he could be a problem.

I think the biggest thing was the move in position for Micah Parsons. He done very well once they switched up how they were using him. He could be a problem. 

46 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

If we beat the Cowboys without Horn and CMC then we'll be declared that we've arrived

That won’t happen. I’m calling it now. Excuses galore. 

I don’t think they will part with him. Their rebuild ain’t to far off considering that division IMO. And I don’t think we should. We draft really well. I would focus on o-line in the draft and get some lineman at a rookie rate. We got some contracts to dish out soon.

1 hour ago, trueblade said:

I don't think SF is going to give him back considering all their RB issues.

Then let’s not ask. 

Would love to have Cannon back.

Just now, L-TownCat said:

Actually that would explain it.