mbarbour21

Hey, remember that time Aaron Rodgers had a 36.8 passer rating (week 1 this year against the mighty Saints) and everyone laughed at him because he would have had a better rating if he just spiked the ball every play...

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Things did not go well at all for Winston in Week 2 — he completed just 11 passes in 22 attempts for 111 yards, no touchdowns, two interceptions, four sacks, and a passer rating of 26.9.

....yeah....good times. 

14 hours ago, SBBlue said:

The good news is, in two weeks, we can claim him back. /sarc 

If we can't cover kicks, this shouldn't be a joke. lol!

21 hours ago, glenwo2 said:

hoping for 3-9 after Thursday.

I'm just hoping for 1-0 this week.

That crowd noise tho...

27 minutes ago, Snake said:

Yeah they are not "just the Browns" anymore and as you said that line is pretty awesome. Good thing too because Mayfields passer rating under pressure is abysmal. 

It's funny that, "They did play the Browns. Haha!" still triggers an automatic assumption that you claimed they suck. Lol! It's gonna take a while for people to get use to the Browns being used as a positive measuring stick. HAHA!

23 minutes ago, Snake said:

This is definitely true but part of me just wants to see Horn Swarm Cooks. Make him miserable all day. 

I believe if we can take Cooks out of the game it will be a blowout. It will be like taking Kamara out of the game against the Saints. If Cooks gets under 50 yards receiving, I have to believe we win this game by 30. Like I said in the op, I don't think their rushing attack will fair well against us. (see Kamara) That's why I am most interested in the Cooks vs our CBs match-up. 

15 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

They've yet to play a complete game. They have done fair in the first half of each game but struggled in the 3rd quarter in both. They were able to come alive in the 4th quarter in both games when things got uncomfortable. They will not get away with that against stouter opponents. 

Agreed. They have done well in the first half while also leaving points on the field. So their good could have been great. The 3rd quarter play has been abysmal as a whole. We have got to get that figured out. I'm hoping we put a hurt on the Texans and the scoreboard actually reflects it. That will give me a lot of hope going forward.

7 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

huh? The Saints had less than 40 yards in the 4th qtr total offense... 

I was referencing the Jets game.

Someone said that they would not say we struggled to beat the Jets. Which I replied that we didn't struggle the whole game, but didn't do well late (in the fourth). Someone then quoted me saying that we have yet to be behind in a game. Which I then replied with the post you quoted. 

1 minute ago, CRA said:

boring answer, but probably most interested in watching special teams.   We will need them to start showing some improvement.   The 3rd phase will matter more and more as our competition get tougher.    Especially as we enter the 3 game stretch after Houston.  

 

That makes a lot of sense though. Honestly, kick-off coverage probably scares me more than our o-line....if that tells you anything. The missed XP was at least close. Slye would miss wide right or whatever. Besides, the kicker doesn't even matter if we can't keep the other team out of the backfield. However, we are gonna miss those touchbacks BAD if we can't cover. Having to drive 75 yards against this defense is brutal. Field position is HUGE. (ask the Saints) Although, if we can cover well and force opposing teams to start at the 20 or worse it could work in our favor. But that is a big if. But I agree, kicker will be a problem against tougher competition. I'm still not sure what we have in Zane. 

5 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

If you are stating that the Browns have a poor rushing offense, they were the third best in the league last year. Texans were destroyed by Chubb in the 4th. Browns have arguably the best offensive line in the league.

No. I was definitely not saying they were not good at running. Their 3rd running back is a beast. Haha! I was implying that the high rushing yards allowed could be because they had to play the Browns. So, maybe they are not quite that bad. I trust CMC, but I do not trust the line.....especially not in run blocking. But 4.6 is a pretty high amount on average. 

3 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Jackson matches up better against Cooks.

1 minute ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

The Panthers have YET to trail in a game.....

True, but you can still struggle while in the lead. We manhandled them all game until the 4th quarter. (at least from a defensive perspective, our offense didn't really do well in the second half) They scored 14 in the 4th, which was more than us that quarter. They won the 4th quarter as far as I am concerned.

Mine has got to be whoever lines up against Brandin Cooks. According to the Carolina Panthers official website:

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Cooks has 14 receptions for 210 yards this year, while no other Texan has more than 70 yards.

Horn has not received many targets at all. I think he has been targeted about 4 or 5 times through both games combined, likely because his man has not been open. I'd love to see what he could do against Cooks all game long. However, I don't know how Snow will be playing the corners. I do not see the Texans having the same success running the ball in this game as they have the first two weeks. We held Kamara to around 30 yards total, with only 5 of those yards falling in the rushing category. Tyrod had 55 yards of their total 242 rushing yards, while Davis Mills comes in at a whopping -1 yards. They do not seem to be comfortable evenly spreading the ball around through the air. Whoever is on Cooks will probably have an eventful day. If our guy wins this match-up it will get ugly QUICK.

Does anyone know if there is a possibility that Horn sticks with Cooks or will it most likely be a combined effort? 

***Honorable Mention: CMC running against this Texans Defense. They have allowed 4.6 yards average. Granted, they did play the Browns. Haha! 

1 hour ago, Eazy-E said:

People are just dumb. We held Kamara to 5 freaking yards. I don’t think extra coaches change that in any way. What are they going to do, run the ball for him?

Like others have stated: even with everyone they had out, every expert still predicted a Saints win.

This is the NFL. Our defense just dominated two teams and is #1 in the league. Texans are trotting out a rookie QB on a short week. The only thing they have going for them is there is hardly any tape on Davis Mills. 

Agreed. If they lost by 3 then I could MAYBE see the argument that the guys missing played a huge role. But they were never in this game.....EVER.

43 minutes ago, TheMaulClaw said:

I mean I wouldn't say the Panthers struggled to beat the Jets.

I believe we struggled late. But the score does not reflect the play on the field. It was a total shutout for 3 quarters. Same with the Saints. I am hoping that we finally have the scoreboard speak for itself tomorrow. 

The two spots that I felt like were our weakness were LBs and OL. I think it has to be LBs that I eat the crow for, at least for now. Because I honestly think our o-line is still a little bit of hot garbage. Run blocking seems horrible. Pass blocking looks to be better than horrible, but I'm not sure how much of that is the line and how much of that is Darnold and the coaches. I think we are scheming around the horribleness. Not sold on OL yet. 

I have to agree. To be fair, I don't feel like the bar was very high here. His first year I thought I would be able to just watch the games with zero expectations. I was almost upset I didn't get a year of low expectations,  because missing the playoffs wouldn't hurt so much. We outplayed my expectations by a mile last year. Losing 8 or 9 games by a score or less showed we were competitive in almost every single game we played. It felt like we belonged inside the top 20 of the league. Which we had no business even sniffing judging by the personnel we had. The defense has grown at a ridiculous rate. I honestly believe the offense isn't far behind. It may not be until next year before it really takes off, because we need to strengthen the o-line. All I know, is Rhule and Co. saw the issues we had.....and made some valid attempts to fix them. (o-line is questionable considering options we could have gone after in draft) But all in all, it was refreshing to see our weaknesses being addressed.  

1 hour ago, usmcpanthers said:

“If we can’t win here, no one can!!!”

2 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

It's working out well for everyone.  Except the Lions, but they've accepted their lot long ago.

Agreed. I'd still love to see it. 

18 hours ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

Micheal Thomas played in seven games last season had a whopping 438 yards recieveing and no TDs it remains to be seen if he will ever regain pre injury form.

To be fair, they really could have used those 62 yards a game in this game. LOL!!!

18 hours ago, Beast_3000 said:

I have no idea why this guy got an entire freaking Pie for that excuse laden post. You play with the cards you are dealt. What’s the excuse for your defense giving up almost 30 points? That’s the equivalent of us complaining about losing Cam for 2 years back to back and playing with our backup quarterback all season long.

I didn’t see Saints fans making excuses before the game. All I heard was “whodat gone whip dem Cats” 

 

Game 17 indeed sir. Hopefully we will have the playoff locked up by then. 

I think they just pied him because he came back. lol!

But yeah, all Saints fans and all analysts were saying those things were not going to stop them. How do you pick the Saints to win the game and then start throwing out excuses when they get taken to the woodshed? If they lost by 3, maybe I see the excuses. But not 26-7, with a gift from Darnold in the 4th. If he just takes that sack, they don't score period. They were wrong, why can't they just admit it? I admit I was wrong. Winston didn't throw 3 TDs and get benched. We didn't win a close game. I was wrong. I wasn't one of the guys saying we would completely dominate them. So I'm not gonna make excuses. WE ALL KNEW about what the Saints had to deal with before the game was played, tune was very different then though. 

18 hours ago, Ocpanthertew714 said:

If I had a dollar for each one these excuses... I'd be able to buy my own beer.

We were told it didn't matter until there were less than 5 minutes to go in the game.

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 "It was a measured choice for the Panthers who were in the trade market for Matthew Stafford..."

I would love to get the Rams in the playoffs and win.