Pantherxtreme

I'll never doubt my football acumen again.

Pre draft I stated after warching film of all 3 Qb's CJ looked to be the better prospect. And then I took a hiatus from the board and came back just a few days before the draft and it was all Bryce, Bryce, he was the guaranteed lock to the the Panthers Qb all you heard was the inside sources, super processor blah, blah, blah.

And I started doubting what I saw on film, and assuring myself because hey they are the "experts" maybe they're getting it right.

They absolutely didn't get it right, and what I saw on film was the truth. 

Man I was hoping to be wrong, but nope at all. 

On 11/5/2023 at 6:53 PM, KillerKat said:

Teddy wasnt this bad because he was too scared to throw past 5 yards.

Bryce hasnt exactly been airing it out.

19 hours ago, DJ feed me moore said:

after watching that play I thought to myself damn CMC would have taken that for 20 yards min, miles ran into our guard and got 2 yards. legit the worst RB we have ever signed in FA.

Foreman as well. 

18 minutes ago, WestPanthers said:

When you're stingy cheap on Deonta Foreman and go to signed this Miles....SMH...

They trade or don't want to pay productive players like Foreman, Hassan Reddick,... but then overpay guys like Miles Sanders, give up the mother load for Bryce Young and send another productive player DJ Moore away. 

Can Sanders get benched already

Who's going to throw him the ball?

It's official Byrce a turnover machine.

Which is crazy because he rarely pushes the ball down the field. 

It's official I don't like short Qbs anymore.

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

https://predominantlyorange.com/posts/hypothetical-trade-package-jerry-jeudy-might-be-too-good-broncos-pass

Oh good lord, this guy thinks the Broncos should trade Jeudy and a 4th for Burns

I've always said nothing could get me to stop rooting for the Panthers, but this could test that theory, that would be an epically bad trade.

If that happens I know there must be some inside job to sabbatage the Panthers. 

1 minute ago, Leaky_Faucet said:

Trading away assets. 

I remember reading a quote somewhere from Dan Morgan who said they would be more conservative going forward with dealing draft capital. 

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

amidst all of this drama the bears are laughing their asses off at us

Houston moreso.

They are team who were in need of a Qb who we were trying to leapfrog. 

We initially were trying to move up to 2nd pick, but the deals fell through so we just went straight for the gusto with Chicago and got hosed.

And Houston ended up with the better Qb anyways. 

2 hours ago, Waldo said:

And everything is fine...

It can not be said enough. These people thought they were a QB away from taking the division and now don't even have the 1st pick they are earning by failing.

If we had better qb play we beat Atlanta, Saints, Minnesota.

Seattle possibly but the defense and Oline the bed

14 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

Chubba was running well the first half of the last game iirc. Then he started getting stuffed later . But overall he has vastly out performed sanders. 

You could say the same with Shenault but he just hasn't gotten enough carries for me to really Guage his rushing performance 

You could use the injuries to Corbett and Christensen as excuses but I saw Christian mccafrey run wild in 2018 and 2019 behind some not so great o lines with shitty qb play and everyone on defense knowing he's getting the ball.

At some point as a rb, if you are really that dude, you don't suck as badly as sanders has even behind this caliber o line

Well to be fair there hasn't been any creativity in the running game its straight up the middle into darkness.

Chuba appears to have better vision and hitting the seems harder, but our schemes are lacking. 

This team was running down people's throat late last season after being pedestrian under Rhule and now it's back to worse than pedestrian, so that goes to coaching. 

I think that trade was more if a solid to McCaffrey seeing as we weren't winning than to make the Panthers better.

Plus we had our eyes on the Watson sweepstakes so I think they were trying to clear cap space in the hopes of being able to sign him to a long term deal.

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Hate I can't embed tweets anymore. 

Someone hit the biggest problem on the head for those in BOA.  They were so busy blowing smoke up everyone's butt coming off Matt Rhule....they are facing the consequences. 

Narrative vs Reality

- only a QB away

- all star coaching staff 

- win now

- playoffs in a weak division

None of that was actually true.  But they wanted to get people excited after so much suck.  Should of borrowed that line from Matt Rhule about Jay Z. 

Weak division is true.

Atlanta right now is trying to scramble and see what they're going to do at Qb.

Derek Carr is hurt and NO is on a 2 game skid.

Ironically the Qb we ran out of town Baker Mayfield and the team left for dead after Brady departure the Bucs are leading the division again. Going into the season Bowles was supposedly on the hot seat. 

6 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I read somewhere (can't remember where don't ask me to cite it) that good coaching can really only add 2-3 wins per season. The vast majority of the wins were said to come from talent on the roster. That's not to say you wouldn't prefer to have a good coach over a bad one, but they can only do so much.

As of right now, we seem to be devoid of both talent, and good coaching, so I have a few questions:

• In your opinion, what is the ratio of Coaching to Talent in terms of a team's overall record?
• Which is worse on our team, the coaching or the talent (or both equally suck)?
• Based on your previous response, who is at fault the most between the coaching staff and the FO?

 

The margin of talent in the NFL is so small that coaching matters even more. 

Every team has weaknesses and strengths, good coaching knows how to exploit the other teams flaws while limiting their own. 

The Panthers right now...

6 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Mahomes sat for a year. Rodgers rode pine for multiple. Manning stunk it up in year one. Brees was trending bust after his first stop with the Chargers. Huddle legend Trevor Lawrence was cheap his first season(and honestly doesn't look like he is trending towards elite).

Sometimes it just doesn't work out the way it looks it was going to. 

Manning was 2nd in voting for Rookie of the year behind Randy Moss.

Sure he threw alot of picks but he flashed just as much. 

Everybody knew the Colts had their franchise guy just had to build around him. 

I'm not sure what we have yet. But right now there's no comparison. 

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

Exactly you don't win games talking football at dinner.

You win it on the field, CJ passed the eye test for anyone not trying to outsmart themselves. 

5 hours ago, travisura said:

3 firsts and a 3rd for Trey Lance. It will be a while before another trade that bad occurs. SF got bailed out by a good roster and getting lucky that their 7th round QB flyer turned out to be the guy.

The shows the absurdity of mortgaging the future for one guy, Qb or not. You build your roster up and you will find your Qb. 

All that the 49ers gave up and their Qb is a 7th rd draft pick. 

The Panthers would be a much better position jad Dakyon started the season or they signed a vet like Derek Carr. 

3 hours ago, Captroop said:

You really think Bryce could hurl the ball 60 yards through the air?

Yea I didnt get that get that PJ Walker reference at all PJ took shots his problem was he actually played too loose with the ball. 

1 hour ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Darnold was not playing his best ball. 

Yes he was, he was playing mistake free ball and that's honestly the best of his caeer. 

2 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Stroud has been sacked 11 times and hit even more.

Shhh don't let facts distract you from the copium. 

So who are we taking with the first pick in the draft guys?

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

In fairness, Frank is limiting Hubbard because Hubbard made Miles look stupid week 1.   He was the best offensive player that week and Frank made sure Miles gets all the rushes post reality check. 

Yea Duce and Frank went heavy on the Miles the last 2 weeks. When in the 1st week they had a platoon rushing attack. 

1 minute ago, Saca312 said:

Kinda makes you wonder whether Bryce Young learning the playbook so easily was a bad sign that perhaps Reich has no idea how to playcall in the modern NFL.

Yes, this team has deficient receivers. But that can be schemed around. Empty backfield 3rd and longs with long developing plays, no rubs or double moves, and nothing to help create space to open up receivers sets up disastrous results.

Week three and no improvement in that regard against a bottom 30 NFL defense is NOT fun to watch.

Play calling is horrible. 

I remember Indianapolis Colts having a pretty boring offense the past few seasons, now it just hit me we have their coach.