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5 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

The what?

To be fair that was the best game of Donald's career

4 minutes ago, KSpan said:

That's yards per attempt, which factors in YAC. His intended air yards per attempt, aka average depth of target, was 27th in the league and his YAC was top third, inflating that number greatly. Point being that they got some yards, sure, but we saw how defenses collapsed in on the scheme as games and the season wore on; it's no coincidence that only 2 of his 15 passing TDs were in the second half of games, both of which came before week 4 and 1 of those was that missed tackle on Robbie in Week 1. 

I can't stand Bridgewater's gutless QB play so I acknowledge that fact, but a downfield-impotent scheme doesn't cut it in today's NFL. It's a big reason why Brees and the Saints got close but never got back over the hump even though he piled up stats - they couldn't take advantage of big-play opporrtunities downfield in closely-contested games.

YAC isn't just a receiver making a corner back miss or breaking a tackle. 

Good Qb play and ball placement also effect YAC. You hit a receiver on a slant in stride as oppose to him having to adjust to make the catch that affects YAC. 

You could put alot of the 2nd half of that season on teams figuring out Rhule and Brady's scheme and them being unable to adjust. Bridgewater spoke up about their coaching or lack of which is why he got shipped out in the first place. 

4 minutes ago, joemac said:

Bryce Young has had the same start to the season as Joe Burrow and D. Watson...so MAYBE we should pump the brakes on the hate here just a little bit?

Smae start, same 0-2 record.

Not sure what's going on with Cincinnati this season they haven't looked good. 

37 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We all crucified Teddy Bridgewater for passing charts that looked like this.

Teddy B was actually in the top half of average yards per play in his season with the Panthers. 

The whole dink and dunk narrative about him was vastly overblown from disgruntled fans still upset about the Cam saga. 

Burns is going to make yall eat your words this season, he's been a force every game so far. 

Both Luvu and Brown have been beneficiaries of sacks due to the havoc Burns caused. 

It would be a complete failure of this FO if we can't get a long term deal done. 

Just now, Varking said:

One will succeed and one will fail?

So like any other game. 

2 minutes ago, Varking said:

Where did I say they tanked the entire season? 

So what if both teams are trying to tank the last game of the season?

1 minute ago, Varking said:

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2022/2/2/22914174/brian-flores-tanking-money-lawsuit-dolphins-browns-hugh-jackson

Flores was fired, thus his lawsuit, so again any smart coach has no incentive to lose games. 

When you ultimately get fired for losing games. 

Hard to justify firing a winning coach. And likewise much more easier to get another job. 

Just now, Varking said:

Ask the coaches who have reported their owners gave them incentives to lose. 

What coaches said this?

As big as sports gambling is in this country, that might be illegal to intentionally throw games. 

1 minute ago, Varking said:

It’s not the players who tank. It’s coaches not putting the best guys out there. Or not putting them into positions to succeed. It’s benching your starting QB just to see what the third string QB has in him. Stuff like that. 

What incentives do the coaches have to compile losses on their resume?

For some college kid who could end up being a bust?

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Don't fire Matt Rhule. 

So piss your fan base off.

Matt Rhule by the end of tenure was nearly getting booed out the stadium.  

How does a team "tank"?

They traded McCaffrey mid-season that wasn't a winning move. 

Do you tell a guy like Foreman on a 1 year deal not to ball out and try earn himself another contract?

Do you sit DJ Moore down for several weeks?

In 2010 the Panthers didn't tank For Newton, Clausen just wasn't a good.

3 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

I love how Andy Dalton has suddenly become the second coming of Tom Brady in the eyes of half the board.

The assumption that he's going to "light it up" is laughable. He may have a good game, but even if he does he's still not the future of the franchise.

Quit gaslighting,

Nowhere did I mention Andy Dalton was the new Tom Brady or the future of the franchise.

I simply stated if he goes out there and produces we might not see Bryce for awhile; you might not like it, but that's the reality, it's a results driven league, and people careers are on the line, winning is what matters not trying to develop a rookie Qb. 

2 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

It's not out of pride. If anything it's out of a sense of self preservation. What I'm saying is that Tepper values Bryce's development ahead of a playoff berth this year. Reich surely knows that; Fitterer damn sure knows that.

Reich benching Bryce would only serve as a signal to Tepper that either he's incapable of doing his job or that Bryce is a bust. In either case, it wouldn't be to Reich's benefit.

This is a fan take.

It's not the way professionals in competitor sports getting paid millions of dollars to produce think. 

No GM or Head Coach in the league values "rookie development" over wins. That's what training camp and preseason is for. 

If Young gives us the best chance to win he's going to take the field, if some how Dalton lights it up and the offense looks night and day from the previous two weeks, you're going to see more Dalton going forward bottomline.

Mahomes sat and watched his rookie season that didn't seem to slow down his development.

Just now, joemac said:

They are. 

Looks like we will find out Sunday, 

oh wee mayn!!

I just want to see if the receivers are as bad as I've heard. 

2 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

winning with dalton is still losing

As long as the Panthers can win on the road in Seattle and avoid going 0-3 I could careless who is taking the snaps. 

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I have a full size popcorn maker in my man cave but it will be unable to keep up with the entertainment this scenario would bring. You think the Huddle is a poo show now? Oh wee mayne. If a washed up vet comes in and looks better than our shiny new #1 overall pick the wailing is gonna be deafening.

I don't get that.

I'm just a fan who wants to win, if it's Dalton if it's Bryce just get the W. 

Hill I pressed me in the preseason. 

And when he came in for Shaq Monday night I continued to be impressed. 

Shaq has been a great player for us over the years.

But I think we are fine with our depth at Lb with Hill and Jones.

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

If you actually think there's more rational reaction than emotional overreaction on the board right now, you must be reading different threats than I am.

It's all perspective 

20 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You sure about that?

I think the overreactions to the overreactions are just as annoying. 

People can discuss the product they're seeing on the field and the way the front office has handled things without being a hater.

3 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Have you read the huddle this week?

Monday night and Tuesday morning he was already written off as the worst pick of all time. 

I've seen far more nuance discussions going on than just "bRyce sux"

Have you seen what's been said about the receiving core and the runningbacks?

37 minutes ago, frankw said:

I don't agree with some of the ugly stuff directed toward him but most of the stuff here is tame compared to Twitter. I also felt bad seeing his family struggling watching the game Monday night. It sucks a real human being has to face the brunt of all this. But that's what comes with the territory of being a number one pick. I spoke on this before the draft and tried to caution the hype train around him but many folks had already left the station full speed ahead. Now I'm the bad guy? No sir.

Yea alot these guys are some sensitive Nancy's but they dont any problem calling our receivers, bums, scrubs, and anything else can think of. 

Nobody is attacking Byrce or has given up on him developing. 

Some people simply think that trade was wild to begin with, and now faced with how the offense has been looked the last two weeks, are starting to revisit some questions that were already there. 

Hopefully this week in Seattke we can see some improvement offensively it sucks watching games knowing the defense is going to have to nearly pitch a shutout for us to have a chance. 

15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Evidence would suggest they have fewer question marks than us right now.

But again, two...games.

Evidence suggest our rookie Qb threw 2 gimme picks that set them up in scoring position. 

But like you said it's only 2 games in a 17 game season alot can happen from here. 

Hurney:

Hit home runs in the 1st rounds

Low batting percentage in the following rounds.

Created poor depth, hated his conservative bargain bin Free agency strategy.

Gettleman:

Egomaniac

Hit and miss in the 1st round

Strange double and triple down strategy in the draft for same position.

Refusal to pay talented vets, roster yo yo effect.

Poor morale.

Fittier:

Like his aggressive style.

Net results haven't panned out yet.

Too liberal with giving up draft picks

Too early on draft selections