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Guy has 77 starts on the interior line. If they completely cut him, you just have to laugh. He was a serviceable starter who looked "below average" last year. Along with an entire offense that looked below average, bar none. I am all for trying to upgrade the OL but you don't cut a C/G that has 77 starts for some unproved youngster. At worst he is the best backup interior lineman we have. He isn't "trash". He had a bad year while being flanked by the worst starting guards I have ever seen on this team.

11 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Tell the players you don't give a fug about their health without actually telling them.

It's two grass fields plus an eventual covered/enclosed field lol

They are already contracted with a company to build the two new full length fields.

Depends what his opinions were on all these players evaluation, trades etc. If he challenged or doubted some of the moves and made it aware to the team, then sure, he deserves a shot.  If he blindly agreed with Fitterer and never challenged the poo-show that ensued...bye bye. Almost every move in FA or the draft was backfired spectacularly. 

But as anyone on a work project knows, if you have people that object to what you are planning, and they do it anyway...do you fire the guy who was right, but was overruled by the boss, just because the project was a failure?

Former head of officiating…”not a catch”.

tv announcers after they call it a catch, “looks like they got it right.” 
lol

We need someone to fix this freaking mess and he has a proven formula for long term success. Instead of wanting our new coach to win us a Super Bowl, how about we get successful foundation first? This team ain't winning poo in the next couple of years, but with right coach we could at least build to winning the NFC South.  He would bring instant credibility (as would Bill) and right now this team has none.

I am trying to imagine NOT wanting a coach with 170 career wins. The Carolina Panthers franchise has just 214 wins over the past 29 seasons LOL

Hard to tell because teams don't have to try to score a bunch of points and we play a ton of bad teams.  But considering when we played a team that are likely in the playoffs, we gave up: 37, 42, 42, 33. 

We could be top 10 when everyone is healthy but we would need a offense that could chew up some clock and score a point once in a while. If we played in the AFC, I don't think we could be top 10 statistically. 

On 12/13/2023 at 7:04 PM, ickmule said:

Kid is a candy ass emotionally.  Never should have been drafted.  

And we all forget about Mr Mopey Head his first couple years.  He too was handled with kid gloves, especially whey he acted like a 10yr old who didn't get his way on the sidelines.  Steve Smith tried to make Cam accountable and they got rid of 89 LOL. 

LOL - When your own dad says "nah" to you inheriting something he built, there is usually a reason. 

Just now, AceBoogie said:

He’s not 

lol 

Imagine being Andy Dalton and sitting on the bench knowing your are worlds better than Bryce. 

4 hours ago, OldhamA said:

I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe. 

We won 7 games with f'in Steve Wilks, the much maligned Sam Darnold and PJ Walker last season.

How are expectations now "well it's a first year coach and a rookie QB (that we sold the f'in farm for), so be happy with getting your ass kicked every week"??!?!?!?

If you haven't noticed...only a handful of "that" team are on this offense.  New QB, RB, TE1, WR1/WR2/WR3, OG1/OG2.

Tell me you don’t have a daughter without telling me you don’t have daughter. 

3 hours ago, CBDellinger said:

Yeah, awesome facility.  Tepper also took all the fields there from the charter school thats next door and now the kids dont have anywhere for recess and gym.   I mean he bought land there big enough for 3 soccer fields ext to the facility, sodded it and fenced it in which the FC uses for practice.  (its pretty damn sweet)  But I guess its not enough b/c he got the landlord (Levines) to take away access to the fields on the other side of the school so his soccer team can use it whenever they want... screw the kids!!  

Tepper sure is a swell guy. 

He literally owns zero land there. Levine owns every acre. 

43 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

alright how about this.  Its not a big deal for her to work at Tepper sports.  It is however a big deal that she is given input on coach hirings, qb selections and draft day trades.  Would you agree with that statement?

Y'all realize, if David Tepper (66yrs old and overweight) kicks the bucket tomorrow...his wife will be likely owning the team? His kids are still in their 20's and they will have billion dollar trust funds to occupy their time.

God forbid she learn some of the business before that happens. No one ever said she is making football decisions. Is her husband going to let her have input on what she sees? Obviously, it's his wife. She is learning the business by being in these meetings. But do you REALLY think these billionaires with huge egos are letting their wives make on the field football decisions? Come on. 

Backup rookie starting game 1 on opposite side than where he played the majority of preseason is doing poorly? Color me shocked.

Are we really expecting a 4th round lineman to be thrown into a starting gig at the very last minute to be playing well?  What does he have...10 padded practices as the starter?

3 hours ago, WarPanthers89 said:

CMC is looking like a bigger trade blunder, as he would make a massive difference to our offense right now

We had CMC for 5 seasons and made one playoff game (and lost). We all love CMC but he went to an elite team with an elite HC and an elite defense (the past 4 years they have been to a Super Bowl and 3 NFC Championships) and now gets to showcase what he can do. He would have just been another unhappy Barry Sanders. Great player on a poo team.  We did him a solid and got a good return. Now what we did with the return is questionable. 

He hasn’t made stupid rookie decisions so that’s good.

He is accurate when he picks his receiver. 

Not a whole lot else but it sure doesn’t look like he is in a position to be successful right now. And it looks worse because Stroud and AR have had success. But history tells us these QB will look like crap this season too as defenses get tape on them. How many rookies have looked good and no panned out at all? And how many rookie QB have looked terrible and turned in pro bowl QB? 
 

He wasn’t healthy in camp, and hasn’t been healthy in the regular season. Let the man heal up and let Chubba tote the rock until he is. I give him a pass for not being healthy. This isn’t the same RB from Philly (or we have no idea how to run him).

3 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Did Cam Newton have elite accuracy?

No, he had a HOF WR, fringe HOF TE, and two pro bowl running backs. Lol. 

Here is what I am showing if I am Fitt:

In Bosa's 9 playoff games: 8 sacks, 9 TFL, 34 tackles, 2 forced fumbles and fumble recovery...that' a whole season of stats of Burns in half the time, in the playoffs. 

Not only does Bosa put up stats, he steps it up a notch in must win payoff games.

Big time players show up in big time games. Not just against bad O Lines.

11 hours ago, Cdparr7 said:

Yeah well I still don’t think you understand the competition difference. And providing a list of generational players that went to similar (but mostly larger than his) schools over the past 30 years is asinine. Are you saying he is going to be at this level?

NC A&T got the doors blown off by Gardner Webb last year. Hopefully his time spent playing the NFL talent farms like NC Central, Campbell, Gardner Webb, Bryant, Robert Morris and Edward Waters prepared him for blocking the best that came out of the SEC.

 

OG Jahri Evans (Saints - 6x Pro Bowl + All-Pro + SB winner) went to my alma mater, a Division 2 school in PA. His regular competition was Kutztown, Slipper Rock, Lock Haven and Millersville.  They would get blown out by "powerhouse" Shippensburg. 

What exactly is your point? Small college lineman can't succeed? Because I just gave you one that went to more pro bowls than ANY Carolina Panther not named Luke Kuechly.

15 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

The headcoach is supposed to know which qb is the best to lead his team. Typical Ron is only concerned with his defense.  

He didn't like Howell because he would make his defense look bad in practice. LOL

Remember when he looked like crap the first two games last year? And then from then out he started looking like a franchise tackle? It’s a new offense again. Maybe we just let the guy figure it out….or we can just start Erving. 

Lets just be competitive the second half of the year. Who cares what the final record looks like. We aren't going to a very good team the first half of the year.  New coach, new offense with a rookie QB and all new offensive weapons. Most of these guys have know each other less than 4 months. We are just looking for glimmers the first half and start to come together the second. Just because we have the parts to be somewhat successful, its gonna take time to oil the machine. 

Will we win some games? Yeah sure! Are gonna look good doing it? Probably not.

15 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/entertainment/celebrities/article278242308.html

Sounds like he does not need money....he just did not like the lie and being exploited.

Celebrity Net worth as a valid "source" of someone's net worth?  They have no idea how much money he has, only what he earned. They wouldn't put in 5 minutes of time researching this. 

He might have a multi-million dollar house but that <> having money.