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2 hours ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

This I think SAT stays together and its JTN on the second and the "power forward" line on third of Nino-Staal-Fast

 

Top 9 looks great that way.

This is what I expect as well. And that's a lot of skill in that top 6. I could really see KK and Necas developing a lot of chemistry. 

And now Montreal is trading a 1st and 2nd for a 25 year old center from Arizona who has yet to score 40 points. 

That alone easily justifies the trade compensation for Kotkaniemi. Then, like I said before, the overpay in $ is what it took to force the trade through. 

What a shrewd move by the Canes. 

It's official. Just announced by the official account of the Canadiens - they Are NOT matching. 

Today is the day. We'll find out if we have a new winger (and lose a 1st and 3rd next year) or if we screwed over Montreal. 

1 hour ago, trueblue said:

Love it for the LOLs… but this dude isn’t close to a 6 million dollar player. 
 

trading a 1st and 3rd for a dude that was a health scratch in the Stanley cup finals is a but much.  

A late first and third for a 21 year old, former 3rd overall pick that has pretty solid advanced metrics is a fair value. The overpay in $$ for a single year is what it takes to pull a Madden and "force" the trade because there's no reason for the Canadiens to accept a fair trade. 

I guarantee you that Eric Tulsky was consulted before signing this offer sheet. 

Keep an eye on the Cowboys and Israel Mukuamu. I think he makes the team but he's on the bubble just due to numbers. He could be a great development FS option. 

6 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

Hes 21.... 

I'm not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me?

6 minutes ago, 07579394 said:

Really?Check out your stats...

I don't have a good way to show it from my phone but straight from NFL.com.

Charlton = 46.3/40.8

Koch = 45.3/40.1 career average

7 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

His numbers have been a little lackluster but his play has been stellar. 

It will be interesting to see his development regardless of if he is in MTL, CAR, or somewhere else. Keep in mind Turbo was not all that great in his early years either and really didn't take the next step until he came to Raleigh. Kotkaniemi may just be a slower development guy too. 

21 minutes ago, 07579394 said:

Come on,i knew Ravens' Sam Koch a bit,don't tell me about net yards.

Charlton's problem is the ballistic,not only high balls,but also long flat balls which can hit the boundary

Charlton's NET and gross avg last year was higher than Koch's career averages so not sure what you're getting on about bud. 

11 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Honestly, the more I look into it the more I would not be opposed to picking this dude up for a season. 2-3 LW and a Finn? 

Agreed. Pierre Lebrun even mentioned that the Canes tried to trade for him before signing the offer sheet so it's not like they did this for a Joe Schmoe. 

Bold move but really not a loss either way. 

3 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Oh man. This may turn epic. I mean judging by his stats is he even worth 6? We may end up stuck with the guy. 

No but he's a 21 year old former 3rd overall pick and a Finn at that. Worst case is you overpay for a year and give up a late first and third and fill your 3rd line with a high upside play. Heck, he may even play up to his potential and then you have his RFA rights and that's easily worth it.

If he doesn't play up to his value you can let him walk or negotiate a long term deal next year at market value. 

And, if the Canadiens match (I'd call it 50/50 but honestly have no idea) they overpay and have to offer more than that next year as a RFA and Canes lose nothing and screw over MTL for playing that game with Aho. 

Didn't realize it at first but even Waddell's comments in the press release is the same as Montreal's when they signed Aho just with the name swapped. 

Not to mention the Canes announced it on Twitter in French. 

This is next level. 

And if MTL doesn't accept, we get Kotkaniemi on a 1 year deal to fill the LW hole and lose a (likely) late 1st and 3rd. 

1 year offer sheet for $6.1M

$20 signing bonus. Literally, 20 dollar bill. Same number as Sebastian Aho.

This is 100% a troll move by the Canes because of the Habs offer sheet to Aho a couple years ago and I love it. 

2 hours ago, 07579394 said:

Serious?He always punts high but not far,no matter on the 50 yard line or in the endzone.

Mr/Ms 07579394, ever heard of outkicking your coverage? There is an optimal height:distance ratio for a punt to ensure a minimal return. Net punt yards is more important than gross punt yards. 

41 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Oof, only 4.5M. Hopefully they can round out our forwards with that. 

No way we have Slavin, Skjei, Gardiner, and Cole on the left side to start the year. I still think Skjei is the headliner for a big trade (Tarasenko is still my bet) or Gardiner goes out on a salary dump.

8 years $7.75 AAV. 

That's honestly a great AAV for that term. 

I went crazy watching that. For the record, that was NBA vet Michael Beasley he went around and NBA vet Kenneth Faried that he absolutely annihilated. 

Also, I have a strong feeling that Kai will spend most of the season in Greensboro. I think he could definitely help the Hornets now off the bench but getting a ton of minutes in the G-League may be better for his development. Keep in mind he has not played basketball for very long and was not a starter in college. With consistent playing time I think he will develop into a monster.

Specifically, I think his defensive game could use some work. He's got all the tools but you could tell he was a little slow reading plays and that comes with reps. 

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

As to the others, before I pay to catch a pass from a famous quarterback, I'm going to go back and review my high school career.

You know the saying "there's a reason you play defense"? Yeah...I played defense.

I'd essentially be paying to drop a pass from a famous quarterback.

Make sure that contract states you will catch the pass. Drop the ball every time. Tom gets pissed. You offer him an out for 120k. Profit. 

One year deal per Shams. 

Really hoping this is for a 3rd guard role. I don't care much for him as a backup PG. 

So....in a round about way we got Kai Jones for Devonte Graham...who I'm not completely sure we would have kept anyways. Really savvy moves by Kupchack even though I really like Graham. 

Now let's see what we do for a backup PG. 

1 minute ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

He his the only clear offensive D man, and I have to say on the ice he has skill. Id bet if he keeps his mouth shut hes 1RD and 1PP.

Definitely agree on 1PP. The more I think about it the more I agree with you about 1RD but not quite 100% on that one. 

3 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

Slavin-Deanglo

Skjei-Pesce 

Cole-Bear

 

IMO. 

Fair enough. DeAngelo could honestly slide in at any of the 3 RHD spots. I'm just not sold on him defensively to be a top pair guy. But I guess that's what Slavin is for. He definitely hid Hamilton's deficiencies. 

16 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Well you gotta factor in Svech but ya there’s still gonna be a decent chunk of change left over. We have 3 forward spots wide open after Svech. 

I expect Svech to come in around 6.5 for 3 years if they go the bridge route. And I fully anticipate Skjei, Nino, or Gardiner (+ prospect(s)) to go in any trade. If it's one of the defensemen, all spots are filled. If it's Nino, that just opens another forward spot to fill, preferably on the cheapish end. 

As it stands right now I think the roster looks something like:

Svech - Aho - Turbo

Nino - Trocheck - Necas

Martinook - Staal - Fast

Lorentz - Stepan/Drury - Leivo

Slavin - Pesce

Skjei - Bear

Cole - DeAngelo

Gardiner

The LHD is stacked and very expensive, especially for Gardiner to be an extra. That's why I really think we use Gardiner or Skjei in a trade for a LW (ie Tarasenko). That would also offset 4 (Gardiner) or 5.25 million (Skjei) of the large contract we take on.

In all honesty, I think Skjei+ for Tarasenko makes too much sense even though I would like to keep Skjei. 

2 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Another defenseman and goalie signed. Still no forwards. 

Stepan signed. There's definitely something brewing because there's way too much cap space available. 

If I'm not mistaken, we were operating with only around 2.5M available last season. So seems pretty apparent to me they are leaving a lot of money open to absorb a large contract. I still think Tarasenko is the target.