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Prediction: we trade a late pick for a big RB. Cheap way for a big improvement. Right now this is a big deal on short yardage plays not having a single QB or RB that can move a pile. 

Wasn’t able to watch, what were the lines last night? 

Add to that stuff that we traded SGA for Miles + 2nd rd picks. So Miles has completely screwed us in multiple ways. 

Freddie is so bad. I’ve never understood the love for him. 

10 minutes ago, Martin said:

I have YouTube TV, how do I watch the Hornets? I don’t think Bally Sports is an option. Any suggestions are appreciated.

I’m watching Canes and Hornets on Crackstreams on my phone for now until I eventually decide to pony up for Bally Sports+.  

Just now, Jackie Lee said:

Coach was even decent

I was shocked that he let Miller stay in down the stretch. 

Even outside of the scoring, I’ve been happy with what I’ve seen from BM. Took a couple fouls from veteran moves that he’ll learn from. Made a couple mistakes ball handling and passing. But otherwise, he mostly makes good decisions, good passes, plays solid defense. And he looked much more confident scoring in the second half. 

7PM? Is this legal?

I didn't realize Aho was out last game and there isn't an update yet. 

Hope Koochie gets the start tonight. 

That hip check from Orlov was beautiful

With the Bridges situation, he's probably not going to have much of a choice. Also, Coach Clifford's job (for better or worse) is to win and this is a fringe playoff team. Miller is not ready for heavy minutes right now. Adding certain injuries and Miller's hopeful development through the season, I would expect to see him more later in the year similar to Mark Williams. 

I’m using Crackstreams on my phone until they figure something out. Between my wife, kids, and busy schedule, not like I get to sit down and actually watch games very often anyways. 

FWIW I was also somewhat happy with Miller with the caveat that he’s not a perfect player and will not explode on the scene right away. But I see the tools that show he can be a very strong core piece. I really liked seeing him make good, quick decisions a lot of times. On 3 specific occasions I remember, he drove, drew an extra defender and immediately made the pass out to the uncovered man. 2 times Thor made the 3 and the third time was a missed 3 by Sumner. 

3 hours ago, t96 said:

Mark is such an exciting player to have. He reminds me of Robert Williams defensively with even more offensive potential and hopefully a healthier player than Rob.

His presence inside is huge. The Heat announcers were even talking about how it opens up the other guys to take more risks on defense knowing that he can clean up behind them. 
 

What are the lines looking like to start the season? I was able to watch just a bit of preseason but haven't been able to focus as much on lines. I was pleasantly surprised with Bunting's performance in the preseason from what I did see. Without a bonafide sniper we really need to keep increasing the secondary scoring. Hoping Necas can keep up his momentum from last year, Turbo can get back to being Turbo, Jarvis and KK keep coming along, and we finally get to see Drury start to break out. 

I hate the Heat with a passion. Doesn’t matter if it’s regular season, preseason, or summer league…we can never beat them. 

https://www.nhl.com/hurricanes/news/canes-trim-training-camp-roster-to-30-players

Looks like Unger Sorum is still on the roster after the trim. He will probably get a few games as a tryout until Svech is fully ready. 

6 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Who wants to bet FUS ends up on the Vet majority side of the double header tomorrow night. 

Winner winner chicken dinner 

8 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Oof we gonna have to train him to stay level for NHL or penalties all day. 

Sometimes those penalties are worth it to stay in the back of the opponents head. When is the last time the Canes had a true punisher?

15 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

There’s certainly merit to the “crapshoot” philosophy to drafting, but I tend to prefer quality over quantity and trust the decision makers.  Rarely do the teams known for trading back and stockpiling picks actually turn those picks into better players than they could have taken at their original spot (at least, in my observations). I’d rather have two firsts, two seconds and nothing else in every draft than a pick in every round, heh. I’ll take a quarter over three dimes any day, when it comes to football players. 

That's a fair argument. I agree with you about higher picks although I do think 3rds still have decent value.

If you take the 2021 draft trade when we had the same pick you get a better picture. So throw out the 5th and 6th swap (who cares) and your question becomes is 39 better value than 52 + 83?

Bears receive:

• 2021 second-round pick (No. 39)
• 2021 fifth-round pick (No. 151)

Panthers receive:

• 2021 second-round pick (No. 52)
• 2021 third-round pick (No. 83)
• 2021 sixth-round pick (No. 204)

1 hour ago, Smithers said:

Maybe - but we have 66 players under contract already.  6 picks brings that to 72.  I’m sure we will add 2 more free agents after the draft, bringing us to 74.  Then come the UDFAs to bring us to 90 for camp.  Trading back to accumulate more picks while risking losing out on a more talented player just doesn’t make sense.

I was just being facetious but this is a good post. 

I would still make the argument that draft picks, especially at this point in the draft, is a crapshoot. Having more opportunities to hit is still a positive. 
 

I could also see a scenario where Fitt trades down to pick up another pick or two next year. This would provide more ammo to get a late first next year or just additional pick(s) to compensate for not having a first. 

1 hour ago, Smithers said:

I don’t see us trading down from 39.  Fitt has been clear that the talent level drops off big time after 45 or so.  

Smokescreen to get some sucker team to trade up from pick ~50. 

I’ve pretty much assumed this would be the case. It makes sense to recoup some of our trade up. I assume it would be something similar to the trade in 2021 when we had the same pick:

Bears receive:

• 2021 second-round pick (No. 39 OT Teven Jenkins)
• 2021 fifth-round pick (No. 151 OT Larry Borom)

Panthers receive:

• 2021 second-round pick (No. 52 traded to Browns)
• 2021 third-round pick (No. 83 TE Tommy Tremble)
• 2021 sixth-round pick (No. 204 WR Shi Smith)

The gap narrowed just a bit yesterday but back up to -350 for Young this morning. 

Ironically I don't bet but Vegas usually has good info. BY has been closing the gap the past week from CJ's -400 lead I've seen. Bryce is now a -300 favorite with CJ at +220. This morning Bryce was at -150 and favored for the first time. 

AR is +2000 and Levis is +6000.