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What an absolute mess.
An absolute masterclass of incompetence to let Burns go into the season without a deal. At first glance, it's a fine proposition and bet to make - if you're garnering that Burns underperforms to where you can try for a discount, then it's an alright move to make.
But wow, when considering the context the Rams would've sent two firsts and then some extra change? You take that and run away with it giddy and happy, ESPECIALLY if you had no plans to honor what Burns is asking for.
Now, the Panthers are likely going to let Burns walk with minimal in return. They missed the boat for extra first round pick ammo that this dysfunctional and talentless team needs, and that would've been the best chance to acquire that.
This team's inability to commit to a full rebuild is what's doing them in. They get rid of CMC, then say Burns is their cornerstone but don't pay him, then shipping DJ Moore and future draft capital off for a make a wish QB is the foundation for what is the 2023 Carolina Panthers of misery.
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1 minute ago, Waldo said:
Lol. Right after a pick on offense (for a TD?). Just lol
Plausible contention is the injury mocking is what initiated Tepper's ire towards the fan and the heckling as the interception happened was the straw that broke the camel's neck.
That or Tepper is trying to find the one slim excuse that could garner sympathy for him in the Panthers Org.
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Saw this making the rounds on Panthers twitter. Maybe legit, maybe a bunch of poo.
Do with this perspective what you will.
"Team employee I know very well tells me Tepper threw the drink in response to the Jags fan heckling Marquis Haynes when he was concussed... "get the stretcher" type stuff and celebrating.
A couple of FU's were exchanged, then Tepper threw his drink."
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Bryce really only looked good one drive of a bad weather game vs atlanta and one half vs one of the worst secondaries in football.
Am I concerned and worried? Yes.
Bryce Young has done little to inspire hope this season. Hitching hope on the few times he's able to do the bare minimum at the QB position is fruitless.
CJ Stroud went in just as bad of a situation as the Panthers yet he's balling out and in the playoffs.
Young by comparison is much more into bust territory.
Hope is that we ink a 1st overall and that the 2025 first OVR QB has the prototypical size and assets needed to be a franchise QB.
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Stroud slinging it right in a spot to give his receiver a chance backpeddling.
All star QB in the making.
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CJ Stroud's footwork is precise and top level.
Bryce Young's footwork looks like a sloppy child learning to walk for the first time.
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I recall those hype videos the Panthers made before the season. How they all knew they needed to get it right with their pick.
Well, they done fugged up. Texans are reaping the rewards of the best QB from the draft, and are knocking the door on the playoffs.
Meanwhile, Panthers are the worst team in the NFL, and Bryce nowhere near Stroud's level of play.
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Bryce Young could make that throw once in a blue moon.
CJ Stroud makes that throw any given gameday.
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Stroud has ROY locked. What a throw.
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If he shows these past two weeks are more the norm, I'll be ready to get on the train.
But to fully trust him, I'd like to see him continue it to next year and show this isn't taking advantage of a weak secondary and the elements. Hope to see more quality play these next two games and him building from there.
I don't think he'll reach the point where it's clear cut he was the best value at #1, but the next best thing is for him to be a consistent top starter in the league. If he does that, I'll be happy, even if the value for getting him is never there.
I've been burned by blind optimism in the past and with this team I'm learning to be more skeptical. I'd love to fully be on the Young train and I've loved what I've seen these past two weeks, but I just need consistency and a bigger repertoire of this play.
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I genuinely forgot he was on this team. He's been invisible all season.
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I recently saw this thread on the Panthers subreddit, and thought it was also worth discussing here.
Tabor was pretty unconventional this weekend. Recognizing the elements at hand, he even planned for that. Rather than have Piñero at kickoff, he opted for Kamu Grugier-Hill to handle that. In the details, that allowed for an extra defender to take the field on a day where the elements were not favorable for normal kicking conditions. Squib kicking and ensuring coverage was sound was definitely a gameplan I don't think I've really seen emulated across the NFL.
Additionally, calling the timeout during the first quarter to ensure the punt would not face the full wrath of the wind was also of interest. Found that to be a rather useful element in the conditions that they played in.
All in all, I'd say I was rather pleased with Tabor's management and his touch on the special teams aspect of the game. Seemed like he was having his own fun coming up with these ideas and implementing them.
Small details in the grand scheme of things, but in a game of inches, they may have made a difference.
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On 12/14/2023 at 6:54 AM, electro's horse said:
Imagine us keeping Wilks, cmc and moore, drafting Levis and letting him sit behind dalton for a half a season or so.
imagine it.
Now imagine us having two extra first round picks from trading Burns that could get us Marvin Harrison Jr. next year for Levis to have fun with, and/or a pass rusher that actually can finish his pass rushes and stop the run.
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On 12/13/2023 at 12:13 AM, mav1234 said:
Whether a duck or a goose if it's foul it's no good either way.
And thus far, Bryce certainly is foul with his on field performance.
We'll see how long this experiment lasts. For the sake of this franchise, I hope it ends before it blows up beyond repair.
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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:
Kurt Warner had a pretty good response to that...
That's a very solid response.
Cam's worldview for game changer seems to rest in athleticism/maximizing talent in any situation, while game managers succeed only in a specific system and thereby are limited in that facet.
Definitely a lot of variance in the definition of game changer vs game manager, and heck interpretation of such will obviously vary from person to person.
Understandable there will be pushbacks with different perspectives. I definitely respect Cam Newton's opinion and agree for the most part, aside some of his examples.
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Just now, Panthercougar68 said:
Also…is Cam advocating for Bill at any point in these?
I don't think he's advocating for Bill or anything. Just mentioned the contrast in experience he had in NE vs the clownshow under Rhule.
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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:
By certain other fanbases too...
I will say I think he's wrong about Dak Prescott not being a difference maker. Not so sure that applies to Jared Goff either.
Tua and Purdy though? There's an argument there.
I'd like to think that in his framework, they excel from a system in which they are given easy choices as to what to do. Having playmakers and a framework that is more guided to make less mistakes is what I like to think Cam means when talking about system QBs, who need a better environment to excel. Not necessarily just dink and dunk.
I will concur that Dak Prescott has played lights out and Cam shouldn't have dinged him as much for that. Sure, a chance in offensive approach helps and he has a great supporting cast, but he's arguably making plays out of structure and doing well with that as well.
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Very interesting interview overall. Worth a watch to see just how dysfunctional this franchise has become under Tepper.
Some interesting nuggets curtesy of twitter:
In this context, Cam Newton reveals a startling revelation:
Throughout McCaffrey's tenure here, he was never truly coached, and it seemed that the coaches never figured out how to properly coach him.
Cam suggests that the situation in SF is much more beneficial to CMC, as the structure allows him to be healthier.
However, in Carolina, it appeared that they ran him into the ground but never found a way to coach CMC to his full potential.
Considering that CMC was here under Rivera and Rhule, it's very concerning that this franchise couldn't maximize CMC and learn how to handle him properly.
Speaking of Rhule, Cam criticizes him harshly and highlights how much of a joke he is.
In the first snippet, Cam talks about a situation where he came back to the team, and a certain QB was quite salty about it. Cam was flabbergasted at Darnold's reaction, implying that it was almost tantrum-like as he insisted on being the starter. Cam noted that this kind of discord was immature and concerning for locker room cohesion, as everyone should be playing as a team and not worrying about petty issues, especially when the decision is not theirs to make.
Cam, being the veteran professional he is, called Rhule to mediate and explain the situation to Darnold and settle his thoughts.
Turns out, this was likely the first time Rhule held Darnold accountable in some form, and Cam had to persuade the coach to do so.
He goes on further in the next clip, emphasizing the difference between Belichick and Rhule. Rhule never attempted to connect deeply with his players, seemingly sticking to his own way and not delving into each player's personalities and thoughts. This disconnect was shocking to Cam, especially compared to his time with the Patriots. Behind the scenes, Bill often worked to connect with his players, taking the time to know them, their personalities, their lives, and their thoughts. He used that to create a cohesive team environment where everyone understood and connected with each other.
This is a stark contrast with Rhule, and it's likely similar to a certain head coach who was recently fired.
And then he talks about Tepper.
Cam explains a bit about a hypothetical scenario where he's the Team President and what he'd do to leverage the situation. He highlights Tepper's failures and says he clearly came into the NFL out of his league, despite his success as a hedge fund manager.
Oh, and he also explains how much of a dick Gettleman was about tie-gate:
A lot to unpack from these snippets. In short, it wasn't Ron Rivera emphasizing ties, but all Dave Gettleman. He was a totalitarian douche who reveled in his way or the high way approach. Even back to the Superbowl, he pretty much forced his dress code and a variety of other crazy approaches.
Ultimately worth a watch and listen. Good insights to this franchise and how much of a joke it was and currently is.
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4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:
He's another serious arm strength question for me. He throws a really floaty ball. Helluva college QB but I'm honestly not big on Penix as an NFL prospect
Sounds like just the QB Tepper loves!
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Hell at this point Will Levis has shown more than Bryce has all season. Incredible end to that game.
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Frankly any one of Stroud, Richardson or heck even Will Levis has shown more promise than Bryce has all season.
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2 hours ago, Selltheteamtepper said:
Bryce and his agency played Tepper like a fool and he’s just now realizing it. Everything about Young was fake. He added so much fake weight for the combine that he had to run to the bathroom and throw up after his weigh in, he had so much hairspray in that he measured 5’10 and not his true 5’8, chose not to throw, run or even be pictured with the other top QBs. He’s not the super mature elite processor like his agency portrayed. He was a lemon that most teams probably never considered. Just a whole bunch of lies that Tepper was sold. Tepper as a small human himself took a liking to him and it cost us everything. He needs to sell.
Reality is, Tepper was sold on him being the most ready, and he fell hook, line and sinker.
He arguably has the lowest ceiling of all the top QBs drafted from the 2023 class, and the hope was his floor would still allow them to be competitive.
As this season is showing, that expectation crashed and burned quite badly.
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On 3/11/2023 at 11:01 AM, Carl Spackler said:
Trading Moore and picking the wrong guy, then giving the wrong guy fry cooks as WRs, thereby making the 2024 first-round pick top 3 or better? Yeah, that's crippling, my guy.
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On 3/11/2023 at 8:15 AM, Carl Spackler said:
I'm still not happy with it because of the player being given up, but that's the only way I can justify the deal in any way.
Forfeiting picks matters less when you choose the right player, but when you don't, you're ending up with egg on your face and even more embarrassment for a franchise that, bar December of last year, has collected it like pollen on a car for years.
In short: yeah, I'd get it. Still wouldn't be crazy about it, but it beats the alternatives of having lousy QB play and overpaying for garbage WRs. That part's coming next regardless.
Some serious incredible foresight. Acknowledging Stroud would be the only good option and that all others would bum out.
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Yep. Ben Johnson resurrected Jared Goff of all QBs, Sam Howell has a great shot of staying. Pairing him with MHjr, sheesh. That's about as an attractive landing spot for him as it gets.