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Not sure if this is worth creating a post and discussion over, but felt it may be something to watch out for.

DJ Moore has recently posted an apology to his wife on instagram, making public that a familial issue came up that possibly involves cheating:

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClrxWjPL6Ac/?igshid=Zjc2ZTc4Nzk=

Whether this affects his on field performance remains to be seen. Ultimately, hope that he learns from this and comes out a better man.

Anyways back to OP -

Kony Ealy was on his way to winning SBMVP had we won, he was playing lights out against the Broncos. In fact, our defense was rock solid.

It was our offense that had no WR that could separate against the Broncos secondary and Remmers being a turnstile and giving Cam zero time to do much in the pocket. 

Literally any above average WR or even an average RT would've gotten us the win.

We'd be undefeated if Cam had this current oline for 2015 and it wouldn't even be close.

20 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

Having any version of Steve Smith probably wins SB 50. He would own Talib and we might get some calls going our way for a veteran player.

Painful seeing in hindsight just how Gettleman botched the bag with Smitty. Terrible way of handling one of our best players ever.

Drank too much of the "Gettlemagic" kool-aid to realize how much he also destroyed the team while trying to "manage the cap."

What could've been...and what could've been had we fixed our mistakes against our lone falcons loss and prepared for those green dog blitz'. Going against a legitimate secondary with no WR open made it hell for Cam to do much of anything.

I'm still mad about 2017 too and our loss against the Saints. If Funchess tracked that ball we win and could've had an incredible run too with how Cam was playing. Damn perfect game from Newton but wasn't enough.

The talent we wasted those years, I'll never forgive this franchise for squandering it.

A disgrace we couldn't get Cam Newton, Ryan Kalil, Greg Olsen, Thomas Davis, and Luke Kuechly a ring in 2015.

With the success of the Eagles this season, it brings to wonder if there are any coaches from there that may be potential HC candidates.

According to Allbright, it appears their OC is very much in play:

If Tepper does go for an offensive minded coach, would you think Steichen is a real possibility?

Of course, I do not know much history behind the guy, but I find it intriguing that he will likely have a hot market.

And, if all checks out, perhaps he may be the guy Tepper wants to gun for.

What are your thoughts?

Have you seen Matt Ryan play recently? He'd make Darnold and Mayfield look like all pros.

10 hours ago, rayzor said:

that was just a beautiful play all around. i mean PJ looked like a real playmaking QB there, but he looked good all game. it's just weird. and the OL... that's what we've needed for over a decade. 

i think rhule was maybe trying to help people's self-esteem and make himself look like their mentor or something, but the truth is he was holding everyone back. he got in their heads. that's what he does. so glad he's gone.

To your first point, that was also a surprise. After PJ's preseason, I had little hope myself he'd turn out to even be serviceable. And while hindsight shows that the game plan against the Rams was to showcase CMC and maximize his trade value, it still didn't look encouraging for PJ.

I'd say a lot had to do with how bad the Bucs CBs were. They allowed our wideouts to get a lot more separation than they normally had, plus, well, we arguably had a better offensive plan as well. So PJ had some good windows to throw to, keeping drives going.

Even so, it was impressive seeing our offensive line hold up against a pretty elite DL, and PJ making some damn tough throws too when the windows were tight. That was pretty shocking. Plus, well, PJ doesn't lock onto his first read and goes through his progressions, a trait rarely seen from Mayfield and Darnold.

Maybe it was a fluke, or maybe he'll continue a good high level of play. Not expecting the latter, but hell I wouldn't complain.

This team has gotten more interesting after Rhule for sure. Players seem inspired, everyone's giving their all. It's a breath of fresh air and a good sign for things to come.

19 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Amazing how we overreact to one decent game. PJ had 60 yards passing just a week ago vs Rams 

Hah. Fair point, I'm certainly not crowning PJ the next Cam Newton. Certainly far from the answer at QB unless proven otherwise. 

It'd be silly to assume this becomes PJ's standard with so much other tape to the contrary.

But the offensive line was the main standout. Gave PJ plenty of time to progress through his reads and lock on for that throw. That should be the main takeaway.

13 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Umm they collapsed? Beautiful would quantify them holding that so the QB doesn’t get pressure?

Don't get what you're talking about lol. That was about 3-4 seconds of time before PJ moved over to the left and locked on his target.

That's a whole lot more time than the average, and only reason they got past was due to PJ's movement when we was ready to throw. 

They held well, Chuba picked up well, and it was all great execution and gave PJ plenty of time to let routes develop then hit his target.

Was just about to post that. Seems like a lot of infighting in the Panthers if that's the case.

And apparently Jermaine Carter and DJ Moore retweeted this...

Steve Wilks is in contention against Phil Snow, primarily with the fact his defense is too light for his scheme to be any sort of effective. Snow maintains a stubborn attitude towards it:

And Rhule screwed up getting Charles Dunlap over his tryouts style roster building:

Derrick Brown got lighter to be a pass rusher, but Rhule screwed the pooch by not finding a replacement. And Chinn hates Phil Snow:

Brian Burns wants out and none of our veterans likes this regime:

But most starking of all, Phil Snow is the one with Rhule all the time speaking to Tepper. God.

Well, this is certainly not a good look for Kamara. Given his battery allegation is defined as having caused "substantial bodily harm," well, at minimum it's a felony.

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NRS 0.060  “Substantial bodily harm” defined.  Unless the context otherwise requires, “substantial bodily harm” means:

1.  Bodily injury which creates a substantial risk of death or which causes serious, permanent disfigurement or protracted loss or impairment of the function of any bodily member or organ; or

2.  Prolonged physical pain.

 

Tonight's game proves having a franchise QB matters if you want to win in today's NFL. The Bills #1 ranked defense was absolutely shredded in the last two minutes and allowed the Chiefs to make their comeback.

Interestingly enough, Patrick Mahomes' last two minute performance in the 4th quarter eclipses in yardage over EIGHT games of the Panthers.

The Panthers, in nearly half their games this year, didn't even get past 177+ yards. Something Mahomes was able to do against the #1 defense in the NFL in the last TWO minutes.

Clearly, the Panthers need a QB that's able to perform at the high level we saw from Josh Allen and Mahomes. They're the future of the AFC and their duels will be legendary. The Panthers need to make their mark in the NFC and come up with a franchise-level QB too.

And coaching too, obviously. Reid and Mahomes make the perfect combo for their success. If the Panthers have hopes of competing in today's NFL they need to upgrade coaching too.

Either way, a wake-up call that the Panthers better hurry up and get their QB rather than keep throwing away at mercenaries and hope for mediocrity.

3 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

 

“Rhule is so bad, he has made hiring a competent head coach for the organization an impossibility, ergo we must allow him to stay and continue to make things even worse.”

I have to tell you, buddy, that explanation is neither rational nor defensible.

In fact, it borders on the insane.

Oh I'm not here agreeing with the process. In fact I'm on the same boat as you.

Rather, this is an attempt at rationalizing the irrationality of keeping Rhule and finding the slightest silver lining.

Blowing it up right now is the best option period. But, this post may be the mindset Tepper has.

Whether that's a good or bad remains to be seen, and arguably put it's risky in general. If it were me heading this team Rhule would've been gone since the Giants blow-out and then I'd hand over all control to Fitterer and let him man the show.

It is clear Matt Rhule has another year. With his media appearances and future talk, the odds that he finds himself on the street grow lower every passing day. 

It's a sad reality for Panther fans - myself included. After all, as the season progressed, the Panthers only seemed to be falling flat on their face furthermore. It makes no sense, based on the teams awful performance, why he still finds himself heading this professional football team.

One particular fan seemed to try and rationalize why Rhule is still here, and honestly it makes sense in the worst way:

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My answer, and what I'm pretty sure is going through Tepper's head, is this: right now, our QBs are fuging terrible. We have neither the cap space (only $26 million) or draft picks to trade for a veteran. We're inalterably stuck with Darnold for another season, the QB draft class is weak, and frankly, the OL is so bad that nobody's going to succeed behind it anyway. Next year, we'll have $100 million in cap space, a lot more draft capital to trade with, and a QB class in which taking someone in the 1st might actually be an option. Plus we'll have had a year to focus fire on rebuilding the OL.

Basically, if we were to dump Rhule now, we're an extremely unattractive landing spot for a potential head coach. We'd probably have a hard time wooing a top tier candidate. Next year? Entirely different story. Wait out Rhule for one more year, fire him if it's awful, start fresh when we have more resources to rebuild with.

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It does make sense. In no way shape or form is this a situation any new or good head coach will want to dive into. Waiting it out until 2023 to make it a more attractive job is potentially the game Tepper is playing.

Of course, that means sacrificing 2022 to another dead season. Sadly, pretty much all of this is a result of Rhule ineptitude and his bringing, as these issues are caused by him.

In a way, Rhule's fug up secured himself another season. The damning reality.

Given that, it seems Tepper's plan is get past this next awful season and blow it all up. However, that gamble also is contingent with Rhule not fugging up furthermore and wasting away 2023's potential with more bad contracts and throwing out picks. 

I wouldn't put that below Rhule either.

So, in light of this, it seems 2022 is a sure lame duck season at this pace. The hope is Rhule's power is taken away from him at managing player personnel, contracts and draft to minimize the risk of further handcuffing the Panthers to him, or that he does not fug up any further on that front. 2023 is the hope for a true good future as a more attractive coaching destination.

Nevertheless, the damage is done and the Panthers are handcuffed to it. The bad guy wins another year and his ineptitude happened to protect him. The worst kind of situation.

Ian Rapoport just reported this. Rhule really wants to get back to the "first three games" where the Panthers played a terrible NY Jets team, a covid-ridden Saints, and a Mills lead Texans team and this is his first step.

Fun times...

Cam Newton accounted for 227 of the 275 total yards of offense generated today by this team.

Rhule is very much to blame for how he built the offense and the team as is today, as well as throwing Cam to the wolves.

DJ Moore's route was horrible oh my god.

Cam Newton still shouldn't have thrown in that horrible spot.

DJax getting beat again smh.

ouch that INT idk wtf happened but Cam should've been more prudent

Just now, ncstatekwi said:

Offense really really wants to poo the bed today!!!!  Of course....its Michael Jordan today!!

Michael Jordan literally did what he should by the textbook and they cane up with a BS call

Just now, Scott12345 said:

No juice on the throw

It's pretty clear it was a miscommunication issue, Robby thought deep and Cam thought comeback.

Cam's fine with the juice when need be and has plenty of velocity.

Looks like Cam thought Robby was gonna comeback to the ball and Robby thought he'd go deep.

Miscommunication INT. Expected growing pains as Cam gets acclimated to his players again.