roaddog96

Never mind

This screams that Tepper is on his ass and he's gonna go down with the ship. Another sign (in my mind at least) that Reich is heading towards one and done unless the Miracle on 34th Street happens and he gets some big wins and real progress on tape. 

Just now, 45catfan said:

If only he had gone with Stroud over Tepper's S2 crush.

I don't think its much different tbh. This team is bad top to bottom. 

3 minutes ago, MGH1989 said:

It is embarrassing to be the team and owner who fires coaches constantly, but does anyone think there is path forward with Reich? I understand the line sucks and the lack of weapons (which is on Fit and Reich to a degree), but this offense shows no innovation or adherence to playing to the strengths of its players and giving our rookie QB the best opportunity to be successful. Will it really be that much better even if with better players? I don't see how it can. 

If there was ever a case of "we need to fire a coach after 1 year", its this one. I don't think anyone would even raise hell about it. 

 Wouldn't be surprised if he "retires" at the end of the year if he makes it there. 

This team is just flat out bad. Get Reich and Fitt outta here. 

I think it wouldn't be bad. It gets tiresome reading all the bashing and shots people take that derail threads that do start with good discussion. 

The panic move from the FO is coming….just waiting to see what it is so I can gage how upset to be. 

Reich needs to give up the play calling duties ASAP. He wont be long for this job if he doesn't, because this ain't it lol. 

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

They both made the playoffs once. When Young was there he made the championship. Stroud is 0-1 in the playoffs and 0-2 against Michigan. Who was the last OSU QB to not beat Michigan? I honestly can’t remember.

Make you laugh. Last OSU QB to not beat Michigan in his career was Kirk Herbstreit. 

6 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Young made the championship game and actually beat UGA that year. Stroud couldn’t even beat his rival. Who was the last OSU QB that never beat Michigan? Max Duggan beat them.

I’m with you, if Jameson Williams and John Metchie III were playing in that championship game, Young would be undefeated against Georgia. Those receivers he had this year were absolute trash, and he still had them in every game.

Fitty out here cooking with the deals. Not mad at any signing I've seen so far.

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Reich as head coach, Vic Fangio as DC, Greg Roman as OC...

That's...not a bad staff

Reich/Fangio is the dream scenario at this point considering whats on the table.

4 minutes ago, Growl said:

If they trade for Payton they have to come away with a 1st round QB this draft

and the whole league knows it 

I disagree...if Payton comes, Derek Carr will not be far behind. Payton would come here because he is trying to win now and not build slowly. 

Well...Payton after everything would be the craziest outcome from this whole situation. If its true that the 2024 1st is in play and he's hired, then there is no way there are trading up for a QB this year. Are they thinking of going after Carr/vet FA with Payton as the HC/OC? 

So if Stroud decides to pull a Luck and go back, do we even want to trade up for a QB? 

Wasn't a surprise. TCU was lucky all year. I would definitely poach some of these draft eligible defensive players from Georgia though. I know everyone hated watching Georgia-Alabama in championship games, but it was way better than what this is. Georgia might score 70 tonight. 

2 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

so uh do we just not talk about the draft until we hire a new coach or?

Not saying that we can’t discuss it. I’m saying that we don’t even know what the direction of this team will be would be yet, so I was phrasing the question what if the new coach doesn’t want a QB in this draft?

None of this pick talk matters until we get the coach hire. There are scenarios where a coach may not value any of these QB’s in the draft. What happens then? Will you be upset if someone like Steichen or Johnson (or whoever) says I want a veteran and will use the draft capital elsewhere?

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

going to be hard to tank if the guys put in any effort to win.

I’ve given up the tank already after seeing the team under Wilks. That schedule is too easy for us to not win at least 3-4 more games.

6 minutes ago, stbugs said:

True and it will come down to picking a Josh Allen and not a Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield. It’s really that simple but draft position can’t always be fixed. In this draft, a QB needy team may not trade down or you might lose a ton of draft capital that we need.

Also, if you notice with my list, many of those guys barely played. Your list has several playoff QBs and a SB winner (albeit injured but was 11-2 and an MVP candidate before injury).

Almost all the QB’s I listed have a win percentage under .500 (which is why I look at them as busts, they weren’t franchise guys). The best win percentage was Trubisky of those QB’s and he’s barely over. Wentz could’ve been but the injury ruined him. Those QB’s were can’t miss, most pro ready for the most part QB’s that teams tanked for that didn’t elevate the franchises that they were with. 

3 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Yep I have never seen a more competitive QB off-season then this one. Whoever wants to trade back can ask for a premium. 

Definitely true.

1 minute ago, stbugs said:

Or Jordan Love, Paxton Lynch, Johnny Manziel, Teddy B, Brandon Weeden, The Golden Calf of Bristol, Brady Quinn, Jason Campbell, JP Losman, Rex Grossman and Patrick Ramsey who are the other QBs selected in the 1st at 20+ in the past 20 years.

Same can be said for top 10 QB’s (not throwing shade, I want a QB too lol) like Russell, Locker, Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold, Leinart, Gabbert, Carr, Harrington, RGIII (injuries did him in), Bortles, Trubisky, Leftwich, Mariota, Winston, Young, Bradford, Sanchez, and Wentz. It’s going to coming down to scouting and finding the right guy. Draft position can always be fixed.