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17 hours ago, mc52beast said:

My question is will we replace Luke before we replace Greg before we replace Jordan…

Luke cannot be replaced 

I’d generally agree but we don’t want to retain JAGs and busts. We sold all of our tenured talent before the 2023 season. 

19 minutes ago, rayzor said:

lol who is amped up over the guy? i think he's a solid addition and could be exactly what we've been needing. am i crowning him an all-pro or any such nonsense? no. i just think that he's worth a shot and until he starts showing his ass and becoming a problem, i'm going to be giving him the benefit of the doubt. is that too amped up for you?

some people just need a scene change. that could be this guy. or he could just be a problem wherever he goes. until he is a problem, though, he's not. no point in getting worked up over a potential cancer until he starts doing some damage. no point in worrying about it because there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it. so why not wait and see? 

Agree with the last statement. I was just noting what others who have watched more of him had to say about him. Not writing the guy off but I’ll hold my excitement until he does anything of value for this team. 

15 hours ago, rayzor said:

If the guy gets open and catches the ball, why would that not be something to get excited about?

15 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

LMMAOOOOO... meh, he will be fine.

14 hours ago, csx said:

Steelers fans are generally morons. Look at Tepper.

Their organization has a history of success. Generally always in the playoff discussion. 
 

You guys do this every year. You get yourself amped up over a FA signing or drafting some project and 98% of the time the ceiling is JAG. I’m just bringing it back down to earth. It’s OK to be hopeful but I’m done being excited until we prove something. 

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

We take what we can get.

Bottom feeder organization.

Hard to get excited about anything this franchise does but if he works out it’ll be a nice surprise. 

Most Steelers fans I speak with seem to be glad to be rid of him calling him lazy and selfish. They give him props for route running but that’s all the positivity I’ve heard. 

Out with the felines. In with the DAWGS.

19 hours ago, top dawg said:

The Red Wolves would be a great name, and an opportunity for the franchise to support recovery efforts.

Redskins was always the name and most with Native ancestry view it as homage to the culture. But if we are going to lose the name with political correctness, then Red Wolves was definitely a prime choice.

I believe it says:

”See through the storm. Return of the Spida.”

So perhaps “return” means he is staying in Carolina?

21 hours ago, csx said:

Love Smitty but don't recall a time he has been correct regarding any receiver.

He was high on Moore for what it’s worth 

1 hour ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make from the first part. He took over from good DCs so it’s not his fault he’s not as good as them?  And as to the second part, sure he’s a better leader than Reich or Rhule but see my above post for my full feelings on him as an HC. His absolute ceiling as a HC is a poor man’s Rivera. I saw him as HC for us, he’s WAAAY too conservative and scared. Nothing would be worse than to get stuck in the purgatory of being good enough to not get fired but too bad to be a contender. 

The point was that Sean was arguably the best DC in the league at the time. So your complaint that he didn’t live up to or exceed the same expectations in pure performance is an unreasonable expectation . 

15 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I don’t hate the guy, far from it. I hated the idea that he should be our next HC. I hate that people are STILL making that wild ass claim. I disliked him as our DC as well, BOTH TIMES he took over as our DC our defense got worse. Happened in SF too. Sure maintaining #1 would be tough but the roster was even more stacked than the year before and the yards ranking dropped by 7. That’s not nothing. 

He seems like a good dude and players have said nothing but nice things about him so I have no reason to dislike the person. I just would never want him as the Panthers HC or DC. 

He took over our defense when McDermott went to Buffalo. Sean was the main reason our defense was so formidable in that 2013 run. So downgrading from that or in the latter part for the 49ers is not saying much. That’s the point I’m trying to make. HC position is much more than how you feel about his defense performing. The leadership aspect alone relative to Reich or Rhule cannot be understated.

Just now, kungfoodude said:

He was a downgrade from Saleh and Ryans but it was a small step. 

IMO, he is the scapegoat for Shanahan's failures.

That’s my opinion as well. I know the coverage went soft near the end but the other 3.5 quarters can’t be downplayed.

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Chase Young sucks, FWIW.

Yeah that argument wasn’t holding any water regarding Wilks. Not sure why people hate the guy. I think there are better DCs and HCs but he’s far from what people make him out to be. 

1 hour ago, JawnyBlaze said:

You have an interesting definition of successful. “Made every defense he coordinated worse” doesn’t fit my definition. “Was marginally better than Rhule” doesn’t either. 

Well if you’re considering the 9ers defense was the best in the league the year prior to his arrival then he would have to replicate best in the league to not see a drop off. So that doesn’t statistically provide any relevance to the discussion and just comes across as nitpicky. 

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

I mean WIlks put Young in as a starter after they traded a 3rd round pick to rent him for half a year.  He got plenty of playing time on that roster.  Ryans didn't have him last year and the defense played better.  

He brought Carolina to "above average" but made Arizona go dead last?  Hmm it's not adding up.  Wilks is a great person, a decent DC, and just not that good of a HC.  

You can harp on a bad situation he was put into 6 years ago for one season. I’ll factor in the entire equation.
 

He was successful as a positions coach here. He was successful as a DC here. He was successful as an interim HC here. He was successful as a DC with SF. 

33 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Now do the Cardinals when he was HC and Missouri when he was DC or do these not count? Also the Niners had a drop off in defense despite adding Chase Young midseason and then he was fired after one season….

Why do you think Chase Young was traded so willingly? 
 

Also, Arizona has been an ass organization for quite some time. Much like Carolina, one guy isn’t going to come in and clean everything up in one season. 

11 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

They were the #1 defense in the league when he came onboard. This isn't the flex you think it is. 

So you’re saying he brought a very bad situation to an above average situation in Carolina, and then maintained greatness in SanFran? 

21 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Wilks seems destined to be the defensive version of Eric Bienemy.  Something about their personalities just seem to clash with the players and/or coaches.

The guy coaches a Top-3 defense to the Super Bowl, shut down the juggernaut Mahomes much of the game, and gets fired?

Shanahan’s comments about it reference “not a great fit” and things of that nature (similar to reports about Bienemy).  

When you’ve been the boss, sometimes it’s hard to have a boss. My take at least.

Probably the most realistic take. If we want to infer it’s a personality conflict I think that makes sense but we  should stop throwing his resume under the bus.  
 

He’s an alpha. Can’t have multiple alphas on the coaching staff. Anything with two heads is a monster.

28 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I’m thinking you didn’t hear about him getting fired. 49ers saw the same thing I said both times he was DC here. Not a good DC. Definitely not a good HC. 

I did. My comment stands. They don’t make it to the SB without his efforts. That defense played stellar for 3 quarters. 

40 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

This didn’t age well. 

Why’s that? He got fired here and went to the Super Bowl the next year. You could say people wanting to get rid of him didn’t age well.
 

This isn’t the flex you think it is.

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