The Natural

5 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

SMH, how has our board done with the current scouting crew in recent years?

My premise is valid because we’ve seen good guys drop for any number of reasons and we typically don’t adjust our draft board for people who drop.

I hope I’m wrong but I think we had a good chance at some talent that dropped and we’ll regret it. I liked getting the 2nd next year, but wish we stayed put and took Brooks at 52. I think the fact that no RBs went between 46 and round 4 shows that our worries were unfounded and then we’d have had a couple more picks to grab a couple of Kamara, Jones, Washington and/or McLahlin (butchered likely) plus Chau.

Loved Sanders in the 4th but very meh on XL trade up and Trevin.

The Legette trade was a very smart move fiscally. We didn't give up much and got a 5th year option. You are correct that under our previous regime our drafting was putrid. But I'm not going to judge this current staff before the team has even taken the field. I really do understand being hesitant to trust given our recent history but I'm choosing remain cautiously optimistic until I see reason not to be.

6 minutes ago, Shocker said:

I can’t find anything that doesn’t make this a huge reach.  Just don’t like it

Lmao a reach in the 5th round!?

1 minute ago, WhoKnows said:

No, at this point you should be taking the BPAs not projects. Miami took Kamara one pick after us. They have edge guys but you don’t worry about that. If you are taking need on day 3, you are wasting the pick. You take Tre Smith over a long snapper. Heck, I would have been happy taking the TE from Arizona or T from Texas because they are great value picks at this point. Maybe you don’t need them but injuries happen and maybe they become future starters for Moton or great for two TE sets.

I know that I and many others in here would have drafted better than we have lately. Hubbard, who is now being replaced for the 3rd year in a row is our only day 3 pick since 2017 (Butker starting for KC) that has done anything. Let’s not act like this scouting department and GM have any history of finding diamonds in the rough by going need based.

The problem with your premise is you don't know what their board looks like right now. Believe it or not NFL teams don't go by a Mel Kiper big board.

It cracks me up how some of you feel if you don't recognize the name they automatically suck.

Just now, WhoKnows said:

SMH. Would have been a great pick for us. We take a guy who is probably there in the 6th or 7th.

You don't know that. At this point in the draft if there's someone you like you take them. 

1 minute ago, CPantherKing said:

Smaller & slower version of Captain Munnerlyn

Another special teams player

If he's anything close to Munnerlyn than he'll be a great pick.

1 minute ago, chknwing said:

yeah just trade the rest of the draft for a 4th and take a center and call it a draft

I'd be good with this. Sign Gilmore as a one year rental at CB and we're pretty set.

Just now, CPantherKing said:

Slide? It's the 3rd round

People have been crying since the 2nd round. All I'm saying is there is clearly some medical issues that we aren't privy to. When we drafted a LB other than him people began melting down.

Wilson slide continues... What do you huddlers know that NFL GM's don't?

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Trolling?

Lol

seriously lol

Just now, ForJimmy said:

I just don’t see how you find any joy in coming on here and crying constantly about this team. To each his own I suppose…

It's attention seeking. Some people resort to this when they don't get enough love in the real world.

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

If you need help ignoring my posts I can give you a hand. 

Nah, your trolling doesn't really affect me that much. I appreciate the offer though!

6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Lol

 

Seriously lol

Do you do anything other than poo post? 

1 minute ago, CPantherKing said:

You want to believe Dan Morgan wasn't putting the boards together? Ok. Morgan just sat back and watched as he let everyone else scout & write reports, right?

Asst GM just gets the coffee & drives the players around?

I'm sure he had input but obviously Scott was calling the shots. Do you honestly believe he'd be our GM right now if he was lockstep with Fitterer these past few years? Tepper might be a lot of things but you can't question that he wants to win. He wouldn't have hired Dan if he had agreed with Scott on every pick.

Just now, CPantherKing said:

Brandon Smith & DJ Johnson agree with you

Dan Morgan was calling the shots before this draft? Weird, I thought it was some other guy.

6 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

Jeremiah Trotter Jr is happy the Panthers skipped over him. Dan Morgan is a joke

I'm guessing you like him because of name recognition. What he has shown on the field isn't that great.

I'll give Morgan the benefit of the doubt that he knows a good LB.

37 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

its 59 spots, saying you flip picks is disingenuous and again the ability to maneuver the 33 pick if you wanted as XL would still be there and quite possibly even at 39 or wherever you trade to in between if that was the strategy.  Feels like the corral move, feels like the DJ move.  Panicking for no reason

It was NOT a panic. It was a smart move to get him in the first so we have the 5th year option. We didn't give the farm away.

Sources tell me he actually had the manager at gun point when making this demand. Just a nasty scene all the way around. Children were crying.

He was most likely told "We'd love to have you on the team." and he added that extra bit. We wouldn't even tell Bryce last year that he was going to be #1 overall, we're not going to tell a guy we're going to draft him at #33 without knowing how the draft is going to play out.

I can confidently say that is not the current plan.

27 minutes ago, t96 said:

Nice! Hurney’s final 1st rounder was a nice parting gift 

Ol' Hurney always knew how to get DAWGS in the first.

8 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Horn is elite when healthy and was the right pick. He’s better than Surtain and the injuries couldn’t be predicted. Ickey is really good, one down year in a clusterfug of bad coaching and Mr. No Pocket Presence doesn’t change that. I’m confident he’ll get back on track. Christiansen and Chuba are decent. 

There's no way at this moment I would consider Ickey "really good". Even in his rookie season he struggled mightily in pass protection.