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1 hour ago, Zod said:

 

 

Yeesh. 

Yet people were praising Walker for less. 

10 hours ago, CashNewton22 said:

Most of the people that are complaining about Darnold not playing don’t really care about him taking live reps etc….they’re just complaining  because they can’t see how he looks themselves. I definitely get it but we’ve waited months to see our new QB we can wait 10 more days (Rhule said he’s definitely playing the Steelers game) I’m absolutely positive you can find another position to be worried about instead of QB. 

The Twitterverse wants something to Tweet about. That's literally the only thing the media is concerned with at least. Make their work easier. 

I was somewhat interested in him but coupling his other issue with injuries just cut him. 

I don't understand anyone complaining about having a mix of young and vet OL depth.

12 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Minshew was pretty good but we just spent two seasons complaining about QBs without sufficient arm strength.  Yes, Teddy had issues going deep beyond that, but Minshew doesn't have anything close to Darnold's arm.  There was some debate about this pre draft... And I was surprised when I did some digging into their advanced stats now much closer Minshew and Teddy were than I expected in terms of depth of targets and what not.  But Minshew 'feels' in game situations more willing to take risks than Teddy did.

Plus, Minshew had pretty much the same percent of bad throws as Darnold, far fewer drops, about the same percent of on target passes, and a couple yards less depth to his average attempt thru each of their first two years.  Now I agree advanced stats can be misleading, and Minshew did play better with a better cast around him.  A much better one lol

A risk taker with a sub par arm? Sounds like the opposite of what most were pining for. This is not a guy to trade for other than a very late rounder to be a backup.  That's not going to happen.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/jaguars-quarterback-gardner-minshew-potential-future-jacksonville/

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To start with, Minshew’s arm strength is substandard for an NFL quarterback. That’s part of the reason he was drafted in the sixth round despite having a phenomenal senior season at Washington State. It is an unfortunate fact of life for NFL quarterbacks that arm strength is something that truly great players cannot do without. There is a certain point at which a player’s arm is simply too weak for them to be an elite quarterback. Now, Minshew’s arm isn’t quite that poor, but it is undeniably below the level of the NFL’s best players at the position.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/film-room/2020/film-room-gardner-minshew

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Due to the limitations of his arm strength and modest mobility, Minshew is unlikely to be a true game-changer. The deep passing, tight-window skills, and dual-threat capabilities required to be a legitimate game-changer may not ever be there with Minshew. Last weekend's game did not give him much of a chance to prove any developments in those areas, either.

4 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Yeah, the refs can call holding every play if they wanted. It's the sort of thing the Panthers get called for while their opponent gets away with it.

We were tied for 3rd fewest offensive holding calls last season.

I feel like if Brown wants to be good he will be. The only limitation is whether he is physically unable to keep his weight down or doesn't have the will. He seems to have the motivation so far.

1 hour ago, Jared Patterson said:

You're telling me Pat Eflein and John Miller are better than them....

At this point most likely yes. 

I apologize for my part in derailing the thread.

He was definitely one of the bright spots In the useful practice game.

I'm super excited about Marshall getting on the field with our starting skill positions 

KFD doesn't even seem to have watched the game.

19 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The overwhelming bright spot in a completely and utterly meaningless game.

If we are sitting some of these bum ass "starters", Marshall needs to start riding the pine too. He is more critical to our success than quite a few of the guys that sat.

The reactionary drama is building!

People are. It's just in a realm beyond this message board

The overdramatic outrage is a hoot. 

Repeating the same gripes a thousand times will make the team operate based on your methods.

Waldo pooing the simple communication of facts without judgment  So America

It's pretty clear he meant as a starter...at some point in not distant future. We already know he's an option at the position given they've said it and played him there.

If PJ is better than Darnold we will get a top 3 pick next season.

24 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

I know it was just the preseason and it was against backups so it has to be taken with a grain of salt, but I was pleasantly surprised with Christensen.  Especially at RT.  He had a couple bad snaps but overall I thought he had a pretty solid performance.  I know most of us have been hoping he would end up being good but as camp has went on I think a lot of doubt had started to creep in.  Most of the reports coming out were saying that the potential is there but hes definitely not ready, which is scary to hear about an older rookie.  Could it be that maybe he's just one of those guys that are better on game day?

The reports were from Zod. It's best not to trust his player takes.

The reports from others said he'd been doing fine 

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Context is everything.  Butker had 54 PATs attempts to Slye's 32.  So yes, it's stands to reason he very well could have more PAT misses given the much greater number of attempts.  The make rate?  Slye was slightly better by 2.8%.  However, on FGs, the ones that count 3 points,  Butker was 12% better on just 9 fewer attempts.

Lastly, I have seen some KC games and while Butker does miss some, he doesn't struggle with ball control like Slye does.

Rate is rate. Butkers XP conversion rate was worse. There were articles written about his issues with extra points.

According to the snap counts 95%

He played 53% of the snaps. Hardly the whole game.

6 hours ago, bigskypanthersguy said:

God, if only we'd kept Butker.

Butker missed a FG and an extra point in his game this week too. He had a worse XP conversion rate than Slye last season.

But yes. Slye is bad.

20 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

He and Haynes played most of the 1st half with the 2s. The second half was mostly Herron, Donnerson, and Miller at DE.

 

Morgan Fox is probably the started but I think YGM is safe at second string. 

Seems they will be 1a and 1b based upon what they are trying to do

Just now, Jon Snow said:

I think an enema would be more appropriate. 

Either works

At the very  least they showed they belong. Solid first outings for all it seems

4 minutes ago, Martin said:

Agree with you on this one. Thinking it will be Moton on the left and Christensen on the right (maybe not the first game, but eventually).

I won't be surprised if this really comes to fruition after they return to Charlotte and get to real closed practices.