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2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

You don't consider Detroit's first demand laughable?  

No. It's arguably a bit higher than some would want to give but as a starting point for a negotiation it's not laughable.

If the question is "How's this for analytics?". My honest answer would be that it's rather weak or useless.

3 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

I mean if we are arguing semantics sure. If the stat followed up with “no other teams have this production” then I think it’s a different story.

but Georgia isn't even in the top 20 this or last year so that they had 1 or so this year or what happened 20 years ago isn't a very relevant analysis. It's pretty much just counting.

I don't think it's realistic to assume that the top 4 are gone at 8. There are too many good players at other positions to force project players like Lance that high. 

Who knows. I feel like it's just a lot of speculation as I'm sure the personnel side is tight lipped at this point about their intentions.  It just doesn't make much sense form either side to be fast tracking this team building at this point and hamstringing the drafts of the next few years. Now is the time to put in that work.

I think there are some alts running amuck in here recently. There's a pretty clear pattern of actions among them.

24 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

What context are you looking for? 

I think he was pointing out that 2 numbers aren't analytics. Maybe an interesting anecdote though.

2 hours ago, SOJA said:

Peterson 100% got fired for his interactions with Wentz and it's laughable to believe otherwise 

You should probably put at least some effort in to understanding the situation before making such statements. Any one of them will tell you that it was mostly about Pederson vs Lurie approach to new coordinators.

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-fire-doug-pederson-20210111.html

https://twitter.com/phillysport/status/1348744100091203585?s=20

Also, when you got a young breakout player in Burns and you sit him in order to lose you aren't making any friends with players. Either on the roster or who might consider signing. It just doesn't make sense on many levels.

This seems a little more interesting. The colleges with the most players this year. Instead of trends from 20 years ago this focuses on now.

Georgia not in the top 22

https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/colleges-super-bowl-rosters-chiefs-bucs

And 2020: (though having the Chiefs again would just tend to cause some common schools)

https://www.ncaa.com/news/article/2020-02-02/2020-super-bowl-rosters-colleges-49ers-and-chiefs-players

get to work Donte

People used to joke about a few who seemed more interested in the draft than games. Now its almost a majority. With some calling for tanking 3 games in. Not sure which genius it was but one of the regulars here was whining about our first win vs the Chargers.

1 hour ago, CarolinaSunday said:

Wasn't it just a couple of years ago that analysts were marvelling about how many teams had franchise quarters and how few QB needy teams there were? 

Things change so quickly.

I think it was just last offseason maybe

According to Next Gen Stats Newtons time to throw is slower this year than any season he had under Shula that they have stats for....2016 and beyond.

Seems to indicate Newton just isn't a guy to get the ball out quickly. 

There's no crying in the NFL draft. Move on.

So yall are criticizing Rivera for not starting the QB signed off the street a few weeks prior and activated to the roster 1 week prior. The QB everyone said sucked when he was here? To play over their previous years first round pick that half the community is now complaining we didn't just sign.

Holy Cow

I think Stafford would be even less likely to want to come to Carolina than Watson.

The Bucs pretty clearly have the better overall talent on paper. I'll wait to see some blatant calls before claiming any type of conspiracy.

If the NFL is fixing games it would be in their interest to focus on the next superstar in Mahomes.

35 minutes ago, xPariahx said:

just like Payton, Brady isn't going out on an L. The NFL will never have it. Simple.

There is no talk of him retiring. He has one more year on his contract.

2 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

I wonder how Jeremy Chinn ended up on our roster...

The interesting angle is that our new GM is from the team (Seahawks) who traded down with us to get more picks.  So who knows if we take on that trading down philosophy that Seattle has been known for. Hurney  tended to trade up, Seattle tended to trade down.

1 hour ago, SOJA said:

We probably have to trade up with NYJ to get him. I think NY might just take him. It would be a LOT easier if we had the number three overall pick to do this. 

With the Lions now officially in QB mode we are officially on the outside looking in and will have to trade up to get a QB. 

Jax- Lawrence

NYJ- Wilson

ATL- Fields

Det- Lance

In some sort of order. 

BUT HEY WINNING CULTURE

Jax Jets and Detroit doing wonders over the years with all those top picks. Draft order champs....

4 minutes ago, Rocky Davis said:

Unless we get a QB who can sling the ball more than 15 yards Tyreek would be wasted!

We may have early success with bubble screens and quick slants with him, but the league would catch on and do everything to stop these.....not saying Hill can't get YAC though.  He's fast af.

Yet DJ Moore was 5th in the league in air yards receiving. 

Don't take lists so seriously either way.

Good luck to him. I ran in to him at a bagel shop in Oregon before the 2015 season. I was cycling around the Northwest and he was driving to Charlotte to begin camp.

Winfield and Kelce