Moo Daeng

4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

So he dug the hole deeper but that's ok it's Marty?  And because nobody on this message board raised a stink about the first extension somehow relieves Marty from compounded it now?  You guys are going to go down swinging trying to make Marty something hes not and never was.

No, we are just pointing at facts. You said he extended Short. He didn't.  Nothing you say will change that.

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

The first one yes, was against that one also.  But Marty compounded that mistake by extending him again.

When was it? Because the only contract extension reported by OTC or Sporttrac was in April 2017. It was negotiated after originally being given the Franchise Tag. No mention anywhere else that I can see after that. He was given a 5 year extension on April 17, 2017. On Sept 7, 2019 some salary was converted to bonus in order to clear some cap room but that wasn't an extension by any definition,

8 minutes ago, stbugs said:

 

Paying him $13M for 2020 was all Marty. We’d have the exact same dead cap if we cut him last year or this year as that’s all from his signing bonus. Marty was the one who restructured his contract which added more bonus money and made him decide to keep him last year. That extra $17M or so was avoidable and all on Marty who wanted to compete to keep his job. He lit that money on fire.

You don't seem to understand how bonus and dead money works. It would in no way be the same. Takes one time on sportsman or OTC using the various options of cuts and releases and how they affect a contract.

Specifically you need to understand the difference between salary and bonus. 

He's much easier to cut in the final year of his contract for reasons  hat should be obvious math.

Did you know it was 3rd this season?

20 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Marty, the gift that keeps on giving.

That was your boy Gettleman

Yes.

1 hour ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

RB's come and go, it's a constant. Franchise QB's like Watson do not. Stop thinking that this team would suffer if they traded CMC. Davis did an amazing job, this offense can run with any RB especially with Watson at the helm. I rather have Watson and X RB next year than Bridgewater/X-QB and CMC.  It's a no brainer if they decide to trade for Watson. CMC-YA!

We wouldn't suffer greatly losing CMC other than the cap implications of trading him the first year of his extension. That's the problem with trading him now

He'll play

17 minutes ago, Shocker said:

The money ain't coming out of your pocket.  Why do u care?

This is the argument of a person with a very poor understanding of how things work. 

Obviously the rough amount of salary payed to the roster is generally the the same. How you divide it up clearly matters as well. So the its not your pocket logic makes no sense.

Now you know

Anybody who watched tv or movies in the 80's knows the brachial stun. I can't count the number of times it was used on the Duke Boys.

4 minutes ago, Ship said:

Some of you all treat our cap and draft picks like it’s your personal home finances. Trade whatever it takes to get Watson! It will be worth it. Franchise QB for another decade.

 Some of us have a small inkling of how to read contract cap implications.

I'd trade CMC but a quick look at his contract shows that's not feasible given our "brink of disaster" cap situation.

This whole thing has been a click farmers bumper crop. All around.

15 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

What is the best case that a #1 CB can do in a game? 

shut down 1 players, easily beat by just passing away from him. I’d rather have a top shelf LBer or DL that can affect multiple aspects of every play than a CB that really only comes in handy 2-4 times a year.

CB’s are luxuries if you don’t have the other pieces in place. If you have a solid defense in place already they’re amazing to have. See 2015 panthers defense. But otherwise they are expensive money pits that should be used elsewhere. 

also see Josh Norman and the redskins after signing him.

There's some logic too that. Makes a lot more sense to have a pipeline of defensive backs than to spend big on them.

Well this was ruined quickly. Good job.

Who cares

49 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I figured you had a problem with voice to text / autocorrect or something.

Prices Chicken Coop. It's a Charlotte institution but it's disgusting. 

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

One thing people always mention about things you do in Charlotte. poo your pants fun.

9 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Why would he want to come here ? Looks like he’s looking for more than just on field talent in his next location 

Prices Diarrhea Coop

Did he get hired?

2 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

Why? So we become a worse version of the 2020 Texicans? With no future to build on?

Sensible.

Texicans? 

22 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

 I know that I am late to the party, but the Jets and Dolphins--are they not 2 teams that have confirmed an intent to stay with their struggling first round draft pick QBs?  (Not sure what Philly is saying about Wentz/Hurts).

This seems to be speculation based on an assumption that Houston would be drafting a QB this year--he knew Jax is not trading.  Atlanta has Ryan for now, Cincinnati wants Sewell, one might expect.  Philly is a very wild card, but they could trade Wentz for Watson--or Hurts.  Detroit?  Nah.  So Carolina is an obvious choice/guess.

If Jax and Houston weren't in the same division they would make perfect trade partners. Jax gets a guy they know can play while they have a dickload of draft picks including 2 in each round except the 6th which is unreal.  They also have the most cap space.  

At least we don't have to worry about any of these idiotic trade suggestions coming to fruition.

Trading CMC now has a pretty large negative affect on our cap by itself. It doesn't matter if anyone wants him or not. 

15 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

The timeline of that story is odd. It doesn't sound like his quip got his foot in the door but maybe sealed the deal. He got his foot in the door because they decided to reset and request more interviews.

Nevermind......it got his foot in the in person interview. 

ps I hate this new edit window limitation

The timeline of that story is odd. It doesn't sound like his quip got his foot in the door but maybe sealed the deal. He got his foot in the door because they decided to reset and request more interviews.