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1 minute ago, pantherj said:

i would be happy to spend a high big on a better TE than Hurst to have more separation for our rookie. We simply disagree on priorities. You're thinking defense, I'm thinking explosive passing weapons better than what we have now. We'll see how it pans out. Fair to disagree. 

That’s the problem again it highly unlikely you’re getting a TE better then Hurst will be for the next 2 years atleast.. Let’s not forget Hurst was a 1st round prospect as a TE and while this draft is deep at the position.. The position alone is a hard transition.. Even if you get Mayers or Kincade they probably won’t be better then Hurst for atleast 2 years..

6 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

I need to reassess my day 2 mock picks now that we have Theilan/Chark/Hurst. I'm fine going BPA between Edge/WR/CB. Don't like the idea of trading down because it seems like it starts thinning out around pick 50-60. I'd rather trade up and roll with 5 draft picks than trade back and have multiple projects. Rhule left us with enough of those already

This draft seem to show not a big drop off in the middle.. Only 3 blue chip players then a lot of depth in the middle .. From the middle of round 2 to round 4 you’re getting similar prospects.. So trading down might not be as big a drop off you think..

1 minute ago, pantherj said:

It's not about big time production, but rather helping our rookie have a great big target to find. That works wonders for confidence and development. So important. We're not headed to the SB this upcoming season, or lighting the league on fire, but our QB development is critical.

That’s why you brought in Hurst.. I have no problem grabbing a Kunz later in the draft but at this point I don’t see it as a top 3 need or worth spending a high pick on..

1 minute ago, pantherj said:

The only way we could get a #1 WR in the draft would be a trade up which is possible, but unlikely. TE is I see as a need and it's a great target for a rookie QB. Tall, fast, elite prospect getting open and making life easier on CJ or Young. Perfect.

TE is a difficult transition position.. You shouldn’t expect to get that kind of production their rookie year.. That’s why we brought in Hurst.. 

2 minutes ago, Urrymonster2 said:

Hurst was the Bengals TE1… they have studs at WR though, so I think we can do just fine if we can get lucky and land a potential WR1 or TMJ makes a massive move this season

At this point Hurst has a better chance of producing TE 1 numbers then a rookie.. 
 

ppl don’t talk about the transition of TE’s from college to Pro’s being difficult..

12 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

Agreed

 

though i will add a side note: As a VaTech fan, i love Barno's potential and he flashed. complete physical freak. The sinking ship at VT really fuged up his draft prospects but holy poo let Evero get a hold of that dude he can be molded into a monster

Love Barno but having a rotation like Philly is very exciting…

3 minutes ago, pantherj said:

#1 WR.

#1 TE.

Edge rusher.

CB for depth.

Basically you don't start a season without a #1 TE and #1 WR and expect to do well on offense. We'll struggle until you get that fixed even if the rookie QB plays fairly well. It's not optional if you want to win. This is a passing league.

Not really a Wr 1 potential in this draft after top 3… And TE isn’t that big of a need now and aren’t going to produce TE 1 numbers the 1st year anyway.. 

1. Edge player

2. Cb 

3. Quick WR yac guy..

4. Young Dlinemen to add to the up front rotation..

5. inside LB depth 

6. Big short yardage RB

7. Oline depth 

1 minute ago, mickeye76 said:

This. I want a edge, ILB or corner. If we could trade down and still stay in the top 48 and add a third it could fill two position instead of just one. 

Most of my mocks have had good success with being able to go as far as 58 add a 3rd and a 5th and getting some good depth picks..

Sweet spot for a Pass rusher or CB in most of my mocks.. 

or trade down for extra assets…

Oh and Preston Williams was a late add and might surprise..

3 hours ago, TF330 said:

so who do we trade or release, shenault, shi smith, TMJ?

None of them.. You can carry more then 5 Wr’s on the roster..

27 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

I rather keep Zane over Eddie, his leg is stronger 

Zane got hurt practicing?? 
 

agree to disagree..

Both look good against air.. We are very lucky that we have our choice of these 2 guys..

7 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

meh... Still don't think he's enough of an upgrade over TMJ, I'd rather see what TMJ can be with this new staff and QB and try and trade for a true #1 and/or draft someone with our 2nd.

 

3 wR set TMJ x Chark z Theilen Slot..

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

The other way of looking at it is that catching passes from Stroud made them five first round WRs.

This isn't college anymore, he's not throwing to recruits, he's throwing to pros.

I don't think this is a legitimate knock on Stroud

How many good WR’s did Burrows throw to??

4 hours ago, weyco2000 said:

Thielen is an upgrade over DJ…

No he is a solid slot and his biggest asset is his knowledge for the younger WR and a reliable target for a rookie QB.. DJ was a number 1 Wr Theilen isn’t that anymore but that’s okay..

10 minutes ago, t96 said:

Why are people upset with the contract? He’s still better than guys like Lazard, JuJu and Meyers and making less than them.

They don’t understand how NFL contracts work..

44 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Meh….

This move doesn’t excite me, rather have Chark. Thielen is at best the the third option on a good receiving core.

This isn’t a good WR core right now and there isn’t a can’t miss number 1 available.. Some of you need to come to grips with that.. 

4 hours ago, pantherj said:

I'm kind of surprised at the overjoyed reaction to this signing, but hey more power to you. I'm worried about finding a #1 WR, and the mother of all decisions coming up in the draft. 

You’re not finding a number 1 Wr in this draft especially with the 2nd round pick.. Maybe 1 develops but it won’t happen this year.. This is a weak class with most of the talented guy being slot guys and then they will be picked in the 1st round.. So let that dream go.. Or hope that TMJ takes advantage of his opportunity.. 

Just now, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Go get Hop and we have us some WRs 

Just now, Man Strength said:

Who does his play style compare to?  How does it compare to dj more?

It doesn’t.. He is going to be your slot safety blanket for your rookie QB.. And a vet teacher for our very young WR room.. Think of him like Ricky Prohel..

9 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Dude is a 3rd WR at this point in his career. I still want them to double down on rookie WRs

In a weak WR class??? 
 

Thats 1

That’s 1..