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If this is an option, I'd wait til draft day. GB just resigned Rodgers and they are gonna NEED some impact players to help push this team since they don't have cap space. IF they want to trade up to get like a difference maker at WR or DE (since a few of those spots are gonna be open), I'd do Love, a couple of 1sts, and their 2nd and 3rd this year. 

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

Michael Vick fumbled 98 times in 148 games, I dunno where that ranks % wise but that's bad. Plenty of them were in the pocket too

Roughly 66%. So for every game he played, he has a 66% chance to fumble at least once. 

Knowing how Richardson rolled I'm not surprised 

With Sean Payton leaving, idk if Winston will come back. IF he does leave they aren't a lot of places he can outright start. He's defiantly better than Sam Darnold, probably wouldn't cost a lot, and if wants to start, it's either here or back to NO, which they are already far over the cap. Do we bring him in?

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Payton retiring? Or just leaving the Saints to go to a team better situated to win? 

U right. He'll be in Dallas by 2023. 

Tom Brady possibly retiring, Sean Payton retiring, imagine if we did this rebuild right the first time. 

54 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Meanwhile...

Deja Vu

I honestly would rather have Josh McCown than Matt Rhule. 

Conner Williams is a FA guys. Should we try to sign him or nah?

Hell, we did better against Tampa.

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

To those holding out hope for Hamilton...

 

If that's the case, Houston should just make him HC

Scottie Fuggin Montgomery. This is got to be a joke right? Can't push the franchise back fast enough Rhule?

3 hours ago, Saca312 said:

It is clear Matt Rhule has another year. With his media appearances and future talk, the odds that he finds himself on the street grow lower every passing day. 

It's a sad reality for Panther fans - myself included. After all, as the season progressed, the Panthers only seemed to be falling flat on their face furthermore. It makes no sense, based on the teams awful performance, why he still finds himself heading this professional football team.

One particular fan seemed to try and rationalize why Rhule is still here, and honestly it makes sense in the worst way:

 

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My answer, and what I'm pretty sure is going through Tepper's head, is this: right now, our QBs are fuging terrible. We have neither the cap space (only $26 million) or draft picks to trade for a veteran. We're inalterably stuck with Darnold for another season, the QB draft class is weak, and frankly, the OL is so bad that nobody's going to succeed behind it anyway. Next year, we'll have $100 million in cap space, a lot more draft capital to trade with, and a QB class in which taking someone in the 1st might actually be an option. Plus we'll have had a year to focus fire on rebuilding the OL.

Basically, if we were to dump Rhule now, we're an extremely unattractive landing spot for a potential head coach. We'd probably have a hard time wooing a top tier candidate. Next year? Entirely different story. Wait out Rhule for one more year, fire him if it's awful, start fresh when we have more resources to rebuild with.

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It does make sense. In no way shape or form is this a situation any new or good head coach will want to dive into. Waiting it out until 2023 to make it a more attractive job is potentially the game Tepper is playing.

Of course, that means sacrificing 2022 to another dead season. Sadly, pretty much all of this is a result of Rhule ineptitude and his bringing, as these issues are caused by him.

In a way, Rhule's fug up secured himself another season. The damning reality.

Given that, it seems Tepper's plan is get past this next awful season and blow it all up. However, that gamble also is contingent with Rhule not fugging up furthermore and wasting away 2023's potential with more bad contracts and throwing out picks. 

I wouldn't put that below Rhule either.

So, in light of this, it seems 2022 is a sure lame duck season at this pace. The hope is Rhule's power is taken away from him at managing player personnel, contracts and draft to minimize the risk of further handcuffing the Panthers to him, or that he does not fug up any further on that front. 2023 is the hope for a true good future as a more attractive coaching destination.

Nevertheless, the damage is done and the Panthers are handcuffed to it. The bad guy wins another year and his ineptitude happened to protect him. The worst kind of situation.

 

 

 

 

I can tell you why that approach is BS, because of Nick Sirianni.  He took over a 4 win Eagles team, who took on major dead money from Carson Wentz, had a poor oline, questionable QB play, and a aging defense, and still won 9 games and took them to the playoffs. A good coach can at least make this team competitive.

27 minutes ago, ericr0319 said:

and we didn't fire a coach, so how is this an example?

He talked to the media after making a major decision. Tepper's decision to keep Rhule requires some explanation.

I mean hell, even Stephen Ross met with the media after firing Flores to explain himself.

I've been high on Pep Hamilton for a while. I though dude would be a HC after like 13-14 season but then Pagano had to fug poo up in Indy. I would love to have him on the Panthers, if we got rid of Rhule and brining in a new staff. To quote the recently retired Pat Coletrain "Not like this" 

If there is anything positive from today, even if Rhule isn't fired, he is getting a lotta of smoke today that he wasn't getting all season. He's probably gonna be on the hottest seat next year if we don't fire him, especially with all of this OC rockstar poo. 

6 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Miami has to have another coach already lined up to fire Flores. What a stupid move. They were excellent down the stretch. You never fire a coach who recovers from a 1-7 start to finish with a winning record. 

Stephen Ross is a Michigan man, and they are rumors that Jim Harbaugh wants back in the NFL.......

13 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Not only is Joe Judge an awful HC - he appears to be a douche meat head. Grabbing his jock after the panthers game, idiotic press conferences, saying stupid poo. I’m sure Belicheck thinks of him as a son. 

I mean outside of the whole jock thing, is that really much different than Rhule?

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Vikes clean house

Wait, they're getting rid of Spielman too? Anyone who has a GM opening needs to hire this man NOW. 

Here's a name I just thought of, Matt Nagy. Dude is gonna get fired, has HC experience, and if things do go south, Nagy is a good coach to tank with.

1. McCaffrey will not fetch 2 1st. At best you might get like a 2nd or 3rd rd. Pick due to his contract and injury history

2. Too much dead money if we do trade him. 

37 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

They weren't exactly national championship worthy when he left.

Questions about his college resumé are fair game. Heck, they were brought up when he was originally hired.

Let's also not forget that since he left Baylor, they won the big 12, beat 5 ranked teams. I question if Matt Rhule was holding Baylor back.

Here's hoping we get blown out today.

This is just a pooshow at this point. This season can't end fast enough. 

Outside of Rae Carruth of course. I don't think I ever seen the fanbase hate one man more than people hate Matt Rhule.