Proudiddy

That's paraphrasing, but listened to all of Fitt's presser today and I loved this back and forth about Corral. Both he and Rhule said Corral was in the building on his own volition early and was prepping for TC. Our media asked Fitt how he felt about Matt not taking the rookie redshirt year sitting down and he said that's what they love about him, and expected as much. He said they liked what Sam has done since the end of the season and brought Baker in so Matt wouldn't have any pressure and could sit and learn for a year and take his time to develop. But, obviously, even with adding Baker, Matt is still being a class act about it, but he is letting it be known he is not accepting that redshirt role just yet and wants to compete to start still. Now, what's interesting, is a reporter then followed that question up with one about if Fitt felt there were any similarities with this situation with Matt and what they had with Russ his rookie year in Seattle. He said it is very similar as they had ran through a QB carousel for the immediate years prior to drafting Russ, and then paid Flynn a big contract only for him to wash out and he said Russ just kept competing everyday... he just kept coming and wouldn't accept the role they had planned for him because his play each day was just better than others at his position. I really believe Baker is hands down the best QB we've had since prime Cam, and likely the second best QB we've ever had outside of Cam in our franchise's history, based off of what he's already shown (not intending to discount Jake, because I love that guy). But we still don't know what we have with Matt aside from amazing talent and traits... still, I can't wait to see what he does in the preseason, and although I love the approach ro let him sit and learn, it would be so awesome if he came in here from day 1 and shows the ability and talent to push for the starting job as a rookie. Also, it's gonna be the first time in a very long time, thanks to the addition of Baker, that watching the 3rd and 4th qtrs of preseason games will actually have any meaning, being that it pushed such a talented rookie to 3rd on the depth chart. I look forward to it! And fwiw, two years into this pandemic and my family and I just got over our first bout with Covid and hope we don't have to go through that again... whew! But man, are we glad to be on the other side of it! Shed a ton of anxiety with it! Hyped for TC! Keep Pounding, ladies and gentlemen!

I get that angle, because without fans, there is no game or multimillion dollar contracts... I definitely wrote Brown off after he said it. But aside from them both saying it, I dont think it is playing favorites, but I just don't view it the same way with Robbie as I did with Brown. Brown complaining. Robbie has to rely on multiple people every play for his production and to play well, whereas Brown had a chance every play he was out there to make a difference and most often he chose to lay down instead. To me, that's two very different scenarios, which is why I have less of an issue with RA saying it versus what Brown was doing for him to have said that.

Ehhh, although it had its holes, that defense was good, but the reason they lost all of those games after having a lead was because the offense was so abysmal that they got no support or points in 2nd halves. It's like having a Cy Young Winner throwing a perfect game but batters that can't hit. The defense did what they could and just wore down the longer it went on.

Thanks you, AL... been saying the same thing since last season. I just don't get all of the hate for Robbie. Sure, he says certain things, but I feel he operates with a very specific code in mind, and he stands behind it for a reason. But, he's also shown that he is accountable and flexible. We've seen him rip into Sam, and then in a thoughtful, reflective moment, has defended him and spoke about their friendship. Many are saying he made the comments about Baker in defense of Sam because of their relationship, and that makes sense... but, just as he did with Sam, he has shown he can navigate relationships as needed, and pride isn't an issue. And as I said non-stop last season, yes the drops were frustrating, buy the whole offense was. Those guys were fighting a lot of stuff every play that had nothing to do with them... and I also shared the article where David Newton (I know lol) took all the advanced stats and broke down exactly what was behind Robbie's struggles. If anyone read it, it would be clear to anyone what he was dealing with and the drops had very little to do with the drop-off in production after he signed his extension. I honestly think every fanbase needs someone to pinpoint all their frustrations on, and for some reason, a great deal of our garbage has chosen Robbie to be that guy. I hope he bounces back big time this year and TMJ takes a huge jump too... and we already know DJ is gonna ball out.

I thought he looked fine in the games he was actually given the opportunity to play and wasn't getting stretchered out from a Darnold hospital ball. I think he got lost when Rhule started scrambling for his job security. He looks the part, he just needs the reps.

I can't believe it. It finally happened. We did it. I dont even know what to do with myself now? What is the meaning of life and my purpose in it? In a moment like this, where I thought I'd find myself, I feel more lost than ever. But anyways...

I was always surprised at how he just faded into oblivion. I was obviously much younger as a person and as a fan back then, obviously, but I remember feeling like he was impressive in the little time he played. Then he got suspended and that was pretty much the end, because I didn't even know he got suspended AGAIN after the first suspension was up until I randomly thought about him and Googled him a year or two ago. It seemed like local media never covered him or what happened to him after that initial suspension. Really sad news to hear though... RIP.

Honestly, agreed. Jake isn't appreciated enough. I loved that guy.

Idgaf what anyone says. No one should EVER wear #1 for this franchise again. Period. The moment Cam retires from the league it needs to go up in the ring.

It's still crazy to me that Wentz is where he is now since tearing his acl. Before that injury, he looked like a future star in the league/face of the league in the midst of what was likely an MVP season. Now he's been traded twice in the last two offseasons and is widely regarded as a guy you don't want.

Or "Best future insurance salesman."

And all respect to Smitty, possibly my favorite Panther of all-time, definitely one of my all-time favorite players ever, and always appreciate his takes and analysis, but I do find this pivot interesting. He was relentless in mocking and belittling Baker last year, seemingly at every turn. I believe he's flat out called him a bad QB in the past. And I don't think this about-face is from internal expectations or pressure because he ripped into quite a few guys during preseason last year to the point Zarzour was extremely uncomfortable trying to wash over it and smooth it out during the broadcasts... so he clearly doesn't hold back because he still works for the org... so, I wonder what it is? I also found it very interesting that he took the "Darnold has all the tools and potential" route last preseason, when to me, Darnold always seemed exactly like one of those guys Smitty would destroy at every opportunity, but he didnt..didn't... yet, he acted that way with Baker, and now he thinks he's Top 15? Don't get me wrong, I think Baker is a Top 15 guy, with Top 10 potential. And straight up, watching him and Darnold, despite the proximity in stats, is like night and day. Baker, at times, controlled and took over games. Darnold, even in his good games, seemed like he was a play away from imploding, or that he just accidentally tripped into positive plays. I just never thought Darnold was good. Ever. Baker can be, and has shown he can be. That's why I'm more far more encouraged about QB going into this season than I was last...

He didn't consider Jake top 15? I did, prior to the elbow stuff.

Baker is a hell of a lot more exciting than what we had going into last season, and I want you to be right. And I could see a world where you are... we have so many great pieces and possibly the most talented/deepest roster from top to bottom that we have ever fielded... yet, I think Rhule is too much to overcome. It depends on how much of a voice guys like Wilks and McAdoo have in the room and on gameday. If their presence is significant, we might shock a lot of people.

I know what Ellis said, but I'm really hoping they just release him. The difference between him and PJ is minimal, and hopefully neither would have to see the field regardless and just let Corral sit and develop, be it as the 2 or 3.

Big difference between Cheek and Cheeks nowadays, Scot. "Cheeks" is popular slang now for someone/something being garbage or not good at something. Also a safer, G-Rated variation of the use of "ass." That QB is complete ass, bro. Man, our QB is cheeks.

As far as what's taken place... as I've said before throughout the huddle since the rumors started, Baker is a good QB. I'm not head over heels for him or anything, never have been, BUT, i recognize his ability. He has Top 10 potential in this league if everything falls into place (system, personnel, coaching, etc.). He can be more than a game manager. But, he van also be very average... but as the article points out, I was basing my evaluation of him from his play before last season's shoulder injury, and the 2020 version of Baker was a good QB. They came within a few plays of beating the Chiefs... I like this move infinitely better than the Darnold deal, and not just because of the compensation, but because Darnold was hopeless and has, does, and will continue to suck ass. Baker can win you games, and regardless of what he does this upcoming season, I love the plan of bringing Corral along slowly in the mold of Rodgers and Mahomes. Sitting even half of a season, but hopefully at least all of your rookie season could prove to be invaluable and with his tools and intangibles, Corral has the potential to follow thr same trajectory as Rodgers and Mahomes... love this. P.S. - I am sad this closes the door on Cam coming back... but wait... what if we cut Darnold? Hmmm...

Freudian slip?

I love Terry, but we need to trade him and get value for him because the fit just isn't ideal. He is a certified dog and an absolute baller, but hr has to go somewhere where he is the ball dominant guard. Having Melo here as the primary ball handler makes it tough matches wise when you have a barely 6 foot guard as the other gut in the backcourt. I've always believed that. No matter how good he is, it puts us in an unfavorable position if he isn't able to maximize his touches and production offensively to offset the match up issues it creates on defense. So, ideally, moving him to a team where he could maximize his offense for a off-guard or combo guard with size would be perfect, and Lonzo fits that's description perfectly. I really would like to get more for Terry (like in a package to get KD, but that's likely a piepedream as I'm sure KD has no interest in coming here), but if that's the beat we can do, I really like that trade as well. An off-guard with size and defensive ability makes us incredibly dangerous. Also, can you imagine the Lonzo and Melo as a passing backcourt? My God. That would be amazing to watch.

fug Ben Simmons.

Despite his criticisms, so does Proudiddy.

What a monumental fugup he has been this offseason. You couldn't possibly fumble the bag any worse than what he has. Smh... Disappointed in him, and pissed off at the same time.

I also was pushing for him even before it was rumored... it's tough to say what happened without being privy to the behind the scenes stuff, but what I assumed, was it was our decision, not his. Reason being, I doubt he comes back and does a second interview in-person ( which was widely reported) after Atkinson fell through if he had no intention of accepting the position. Even if he felt jilted that we hired Atkinson over him the first round, I doubt he comes back to interview with us if he knew he didn't want the job. So that has led me to my theory, that between the draft night trade where we basically punted a lottery pick for nothing, and then hiring a retread coach we previously fired who has shown no signs of improvement, progress, or evolving and got fired again after he left here... that there's no way that reunion comes together without a) Clifford knowing he has no other chance at being a HC again, so he makes some concessions (i.e. lower salary demands, swallows his pride to come back and interview with a previous employer that fired him), and b) Charlotte knowing they can pay him less because of the position he found himself in with no other chance HC prospects and his previous history with the org. Simply put, I think the lottery pick trade and hiring Clifford were both about MJ saving money and maybe a slight hint of comfortability with familiarity. There's no way you look at those two candidates and decide Clifford was the better option that offers us a better chance at success on the court... it had to be money.

Yeah, sorry... wasn't intending that towards you, just as a general statement to the people who yammered on about why would we hire D'Antoni when our issue was defense... so we passed on a likely HOF coach with a proven system who has come closer to an NBA finals multiple times than we ever have... and not passed on him once, BUT TWICE! Only to hire a retread we already fired who is stuck in his ways, and his ways, at their best, has a ceiling of getting blown out and/or swept from the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed. Fantastic management, I tell ya!

Welp... prepare to rage fellas. One interesting footnote I kept thinking that everyone seemed to be ignoring after the draft night trade fiasco, was aside from the obvious - we enabled Detroit to save money to throw at Miles by giving them a young center so that they don't have to pursue Ayton - many left out the fact that Detroit is Miles' hometown team. So not only did we enable them to offer him beaucoup amounts of money that will likely scare MJ's cheap ass from matching, but he has even extra incentive to sign with the team that we helped because he's from there. I swear our teams are headed by fuging idiots.