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Tbh, I was concerned with our choice to sign statistically the worst punter in the NFL, but the issues we’re having tonight have nothing to do with him.

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Watching Andy tonight is also another reason I was a big proponent of drafting a young QB the last two drafts. I wanted Milton last year and Shadeur this year. All respect to Andy, a long time starter and quality player in this league, but he is on the decline, looks not great tonight, and Plummer is just gross. Would’ve been nice to have another young QB to develop and be excited to watch grow.

You’re Lol’ing but he was available u til the 5th round. He has still not thrown a pick in camp or through his first start in preseason as a rookie. He also just threw 2 TDs, extended plays, and displayed some elite anticipation and ball placement. We traded a treasure trove of picks and assets to move up and take Bryce, who struggled for a season and a half before finally showing any semblance of being a quality starter, and that is still to be determined. just saying, SS looks ahead of the curve and was available to every team for 4 whole rounds.

Boy I know refs be excited when they see us as their assignment. They be stretching their flag throwing arms all week getting ready… and not because we commit the penalties but because we are the NFL’s bitch.

Damn Coker is so good.

If yall haven’t noticed yet - DAMN! I wish we would’ve drafted Shadeur. All 32 GMs and FOs are gonna be eating a lot of poo over this, including the Browns. He is a fuging baller.

I don’t disagree, but I just don’t see Etienne as a natural PR and I feel it looked clumsy because of his hesitancy/lack of confidence/reps in that spot. I think he’s a great back and potential big time contributor down the road, but as a PR, it’s your job to make those decisions - he saw the traffic and called for the FC and then failed to navigate it. If he didn’t feel confident in fielding it, he should’ve called it off and got out the way.

Greta catch, Coker, and then of course the refs step in to fug everything up. And for those of you that weren’t sure - Coker isn’t going anywhere.

Yeah, it was 7 total, and as I said to the other poster, I watched a ton of Colorado in ‘23, didn’t get to see much last year, so I was basing it off memory from that year. And looking it up again, he didn’t return any at all in ‘24. But idk what it is, some guys just look natural doing it, and Horn is one of them, imo.

Fwiw, I was basing my opinion off watching him in college, and I watched him more in 23 than 24. How he caught it looked natural. They just out him out there to PR just now, and that opinion still holds up. The catch looked effortless. I guess an argument could be made that Blackshear and Etienne were catching it facing the other direction, but both looked clumsy.

horn did return some punts in college.

Dropping passes or punts? Hard to tell considering we get no video and about 4 tweets a day now under the Tepper Reich.

Indeed. Confident he’s a lock in the RB corps, but that was not a good first look at all as a returner. He looked way too uncomfortable with all that traffic after calling a FC. Didn’t look very natural, even though I know he’s done it. I know Smitty said catching them at night in BOA is tough, but idk… I feel like Horn is a much more natural returner.

I was referring to just returner

Ooooy BC just got his ass whooped.

I’m pulling for him heavy. Loved Deion growing up, and idgaf about the noise… Shadeur is a damn good player in his own right. I really wish we had drafted him as an insurance policy bc he’s gonna be really good.

Been saying it since his first season at Colorado. His anticipation, accuracy, and ball placement is elite-level. It reminds me a lot of Brady.

Ettiene not helping himself. Surprised he is higher on the depth chart than Horn.

Yeah, I’ve been surprised by this. No way Coker is cut. So much of his advanced stats last year bore out that he was one of the top of WRs of the class of 2024, and he wasn’t even drafted. He’s a key piece of our young WR core. I think Moore is the odd man out with Jimmy Horn Jr. taking his spot.

Yeah, it would make zero sense to trade him, but it’s kind of tracking. Sure, they could be starting him because he’s earning it, and again, by all reports, he has been statistically stunning throughout camp. But, they also could be starting him to advertise the product to maximize value for him in a trade. And again, Haslem’s comments make zero fuging sense. Why wouldn’t you want to say you made the call on such a steal? I would want to distance myself from the Gabriel pick at this point (but I never would’ve made that pick in the first place). Also, saw Stefanski continue to downplay Shadeur in a presser last week, yet still continued to vouch for Gabriel after a historically atrocious day at camp (I think he was like 3/14 with an a couple INTs). I personally don’t think Gabriel is an NFL QB, and I made that assessment strictly from what I saw in college. And Stefanski was saying stuff like Gabriel just wants to be great and he is going to work to be great blah blah blah. So, again, it seems they really prop up Gabriel and downplay Shadeur. It doesn’t make sense at all - but it does start seeming like, paired with their lack of enthusiasm upon drafting Shadeur, that they are trying to distance themselves and maybe get some value back for him.

I know from our discussion during the draft you are not a fan, but I’m standing on this hill, LG.

Gahdamn!

I read this rumor the other day, and it makes sense…. It said the Browns are planning on trading Shadeur before final cuts. Shortly after I saw this rumor, their dirtbag owner then came out and said he had nothing to do with picking him, sort of distancing himself from the whole thing - which is interesting, because the word out of their camp is Shadeur has been the best QB statistically to this point, with the only close competition being Flacco. Why would an owner distance himself from a potential super-value pick if he was planning on keeping him? i wanted us to draft him, and now with them in town for the joint practices and game, we know in the past, a lot of teams are able to get some really solid scouting and intel done in these settings and often pickup other players via cuts or trades from the teams they see up close in these joint practices. I feel he has tremendous tools to build on. I love his accuracy and anticipation, and so far, in their camp, he appears to be making huge strides and really impressing. The Browns just seem to not want him, for whatever reason, and that dates back to even then drafting him. Would you be interested in making a low-cost move for Shadeur as a developmental QB behind Bryce and Dalton? I would love this move.

TBH, I don’t recall many kickers known for their accuracy just falling off a cliff. I remember guys like Morten Andersen kicking well up to 40. I have to think Tucker’s likely was knowing all his chickens from his dirtbag activities were coming home to roost, and I imagine that definitely changed his performance on-field. And for the record, I don’t say this as an endorsement to sign him or for him period. He’s a creep. I’m simply wondering out loud how someone could have fallen off so quickly. i think Matthew Wright is an excellent kicker in his own right, but my opinion, considering our history with Butker, is no matter his struggles now, stick with Fitz and see what happens in a year or so. Give him a chance. My stance with Butker and Gano was to keep Butker. Hopefully the FO will start listening to me lol.