Proudiddy

A lot of yall can keep on with the "I'm giving him this season" but the results are already there. What you're seeing is the final product. The final form. And no "future" cautionary tale... it was this way before he was even taken and the reason a lot of us didn't want to draft him in the first place. As I've stated ad nauseum... a franchise QB is a guy who has elite physical traits that elevates the play of those around him and he can make and create plays that aren't even there initially bc of his ability (plus ability to process). Game managers, at best, are the inverse, need the play of their supporting cast to elevate them... the game managers that can be outliers are guys who aren't elite, but have enough of those traits and abilities to start for one to several years - think Andy Dalton, Case Keenum, Ryan Fitzpatrick, etc. Then there are guys who have really good overall physical traits and also elite processing - think Brady and Brees. Then there are guys that have poo physical traits, are built like a middle schooler, have a noodle for an arm, and are not very athletic, and are too short to maneuver around or see over their line to throw it any distance of consequence downfield - that's Bryce. He's not making anyone around him better, nor is he capable of doing so. And on the flipside, he could have fuging Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, TO, Smitty, and Chase and Jefferson coming off the bench and he still would put up numbers like yesterday because he fuging sucks ass. Foe that processing to matter, you have to be able to physically use it. And when he was at Alabama, the perspective was easily skewed because he had such elite talent around him compared to most of the opponents he was playing, so his weaknesses weren't evident because there was all of the fuging beer and circus flying all directions around him. But, now, he doesn't have that and it shows. And Mark my words, it isn't because we don't have talent at the playmaking positions. We absolutely do. If Dalton starts, we make a run at the playoffs and Diontae is making a run at being one of the top receivers statistically in the league, Mingo looks worlds better, etc. This is simply because the talent level at Alabama dwarfed 99% of their opponents. In the NFL, everyone has Alabama talent, so that gap is bridged and what makes the difference is scheme and who is pulling the trigger. And again, we gave up DJ and what became Caleb Williams for this piece of poo.

Tbh, DJ looked really solid in preseason. And I've always loved me some Barno, I think he has double-digit-sacks-a-year potential, he just needed time to develop into it. But he doesn't come back til week 4 at the earliest right?

Shows you how fuging ass CJ Henderson was, if you didn't know already... we traded a fuging second rounder for him, started him for 2 years, finally let him go elsewhere and he gets cut before the regular season. This front office really poo the bed, and for a long, long time. When fuging fans can see the poo from a mile away and the fuging experts still trot that poo out there FOR YEARS??? Wtf is really going on???

As I have said with numerous players in the past, I will happily eat crow. Even seconds.

Wtf is happening. Jackson has looked like the best corner on the roster so far in preseason. Johnson looked light-years better than the guy they've had taking the first half snaps at RB... Johnson scores a TD even, and then they cut him. This is just a like a steaming hot poo sandwich to start the week off.

Same poo that happened with CMC and DJ. And Burns will probably have 22 sacks this year lol. This franchise never learns.

I just don't think Pinero ever would. He's super accurate with us, but that's because most of his kicks have been inconsequential. Our team has sucked, especially offense while he's been here, and most of his kicks have very little effect on the games. When they have mattered its hard to tell what ye would be. I remember off the top of my head that he won a game last year, mightve done it twice, but he also lost one against ATL with a huge miss (might've been the DJ Moore helmet game?). So results are a mixed bag. What makes kickers elite, imo, is ability to kick from distance, consistency/accuracy, and clutch factor. Piniero has demonstrated only consistency/accuracy in meaningless games. I honestly think if he went somewhere else where the kicks matter, he would be exposed. I wanted Mevis. And for the record, I said to keep Butker over Gano when they were both here.

I loved Dan as a player since college snd have been pulling for him ever since. I'm still holding out hope he can turn things around here, but man... some stuff is just hard to stomach. Getting Diontae was an absolute steal. But seeing how hard the Giants keyed in on Burns so early, knowing Dan already had a relationship with Schoen, seeing their conversation started with Dan asking for two ones, then seeing the negotiations distill down to us getting haggled out of asking for an additional 7th to go with the 2nd we already settled for... if that's how your friends do you, then I'm kind of worried what negotiations with someone else would look like. I haven't been frequenting the boards as much, as I'm going through massive change in my life, and considering our whole organization has continuously and progressively deteriorated under Tepper since he's been here, I haven't been as nearly locked in as a fan as I used to be... so maybe I missed the reaction to this already, but man, what a huge punch to the gut. I didn't rag on passing up on the Rams two 1sts offer when many did last year because I figured we were keeping Burns, so it made sense from that perspective... but the fact that was offered, we passed on it, and then even with considering Fitt was fired and Morgan took over, we end up still asking for two 1sts as the starting point and end up with a 2nd and a 5th while also giving up a pick of our own for the best pass rusher from his class... yikes. I would rather have just kept him. And in addition to that, early reviews on this draft class so far isn't great from what I've read. I've said it elsewhere, but man, I really feel like the only way we turn things around under Tepper is to back into success by accident.

I really don't understand Gilly still being out there and why we haven't brought him yet either. I always felt either he could continue playing at a high-level as a corner into his late 30s or make the transition to safety like other highly-skilled corners did later in their career.

If it makes me a hater, so be it... but, I pretty much was out on Bryce halfway through last season... I was out on him prior to the draft, then had to give him a chance because our dumbass FO drafted him, buy then seeing him - he will be lucky to stick as a backup NFL QB after his rookie contract. You cannot just have a QB who dinks and dunks and succeed with no threat of an accurate deep ball in today's NFL. Look at the QBs Canales has worked and excelled with. The biggest difference between them and Bryce is that they were renowned for their arm strength. Canales is really trying to put lipstick on a pig this season... it's damn near inevitable we will be drafting a QB in 2025. And funny enough, because we just played them, I actually wanted us to draft Milton late just to have a possible option already waiting in the wings... ngl, I would really like to see what the cost would be to get Hendon Hooker from Detroit as well... just to have a young option to pair with who we draft in 2025.

Expect this to play out similarly, except in that scenario, Gano eventually bounced back to clutch/consistent and a top kicker in the league after we let him go too. In this scenario, Mevis will go onto be a solid kicker in the league, while Eddy will choke himself out of a job - all while being unable to kick anything beyond 55 yards max. Good to see us settle again. In true Panthers fashion.

We suck. Tune in tomorrow for more meaningless fluff while we still suck. Good times.

At this point they should be a paid sponsor and plastered all over the stadium as well.

That's the troubling part... I assumed at worst, he would make heady plays and decisions, based on what I knew of him from college... but a lot of these plays, he isn't even making it to the first read. Then some of them, like the PA bootlegs, he's not even getting to the cross or flat and shows zero anticipation for the rush to that side. And then the countless times he has just eaten a sack by holding the ball too long instead of hitting the checkdown or throwing it away. He fuging sucks.

It was Xavier Woods. One of the few guys who has played like he gives a poo the last two years.

Even with preseason consideration, I almost turned this poo off 3 drives in.

I get this is preseason, but Plummer fuging sucks. I also know the OL isn't worldbeaters, but we have a few guys out there with starting experience... Plummer is just fuging horrible, and I honestly was hoping he would be a gem considering his college resume.

Thanks to Eddy for his contributions, but his clutch kick misses and inability to be trusted with 53+ yarders doesn't warrant security or an extension... especially when you have a rookie in camp who isn't missing anything and nailing kicks from 60 on the regular. I honestly wish they would just tell Eddy to kick rocks prior to camp so we can move on.

Yeah, it is the same story every year with him, so I expect nothing from him once the games start. Hell, even Tremble makes poo happen in actual games with way less touches and opportunities... But, I will say this... I think it's entirely possible that the staffs just did not know how to utilize TEs AT ALL in games, and maybe he will finally put it together under one like Canales, that does. Just like I said earlier in the offseason that Tremble is a damn good football player, he just needed the opportunities... I still maintain that as of today, Tremble is the best TE on the roster and has enormous potential... but the fact that Greg Olsen still vouches for Thomas to this day tells you it's not just smoke. He knows if a guy can play or not... and think about how bad other guys on offense have looked the last few years because of how dysfunctional everything was. When it comes to Thomas, I'm not holding my breath. But I also won't be surprised if he comes out of nowhere with a crazy productive year.

I dont have a dog in the fight besides hoping for the best for our guy now that he's a Panther, and admittedly, I kept up with football, both college and pro, and the draft, the least I have in my life this past year bc of life changes... that being said, XL didn't have the QB talent or coaching that any of those other guys did either, so let's see what happens.

I think they give him the full season, but if he stinks as bad as he did most of last year, and there aren't many signs of improvement, I could see them pulling him 10-ish games in. Still just sucks... The other day, I was telling my friend, who is a Patriots fan, that I'm still so mad that we sold out for Young because Stroud, AR were there last draft, and I REALLY wanted to wait until this draft to have a high pick because of Maye. But, no use in crying over spilled milk... we're stuck with Bryce, so we ride until the wheels fall off and then do it all over again.

I mean, didn't Les Snead walk around with that "fug those picks" shirt after their Super Bowl?

I haven't paid a ton of attention to sports this year, as much as I have in the past, but I want Wilson. And that's coming from a UNC alum. I know he's had injuries, but he's a playmaker if healthy. He's got that IT factor. Wouldn't be upset with an edge either, just don't know much about them this year. (I like the older guy from FSU, can't remember his name now though, but I watched him in some of their games and I was impressed).

I dont think either get anywhere near 33. They're both gone well before.

Same.