Jared Patterson

49 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rhule's not gonna want to do that.

Apparently, I have heard Rhule has been holding it up with the Patriots, Packers, and Ravens all interested.

Derrick Brown is a beast. Don't understand his hate on here. Dude is a star in the making. 

Robbie Anderson.... 23 million dollar cap hit next year.

You cant watch games like last night and think you are going to compete with Matt Rhule and Baker Mayfield. I mean what makes our owner and managers believe those are good moves. Clearly the goal is to be average at best like I have been saying. Theres a low level ceiling with both Rhule and Baker. Beating someone like this Giants team w Daniel Jones and half their players being out is not impressive to me. 

If we lose to Daniel Jones and the Giants w/o KT, Ojulari and Robinson..... Rhule would need to be fired before leaving the locker room. Im still laughing that the team that gave up on Baker and started a back up QB whipped his behind. Baker and Rhule are an embarrassment. 

4 hours ago, Panthera onca said:

Erving at right tackle on Sunday?

Rhule's dream. Erving and Elflein as starters....

I remember when people told me the Browns Oline with Baker was bad and just holding Baker back....

3 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Was watching some Brandon Thorn clips today and he was pointing out how good a guard Teller is. Sure it would be nice to see some more penetration from Brown but something tells me that Snow had them playing soft and just reacting because both Brown and Ioannidis were just catching  

Teller is arguably the best guard in the league. Right up there w Martin and Nelson. Baker had the greatest line of all time up there and we somehow think he will be better here. 

Brown is not bad at all. This is your coaches scheme and having a bunch of hybrid DTs that cant take on the run next to him. Brown is a one man crew with stopping the run. I feel bad for him. He is our highest graded defender on the team. Need to sign a big time DT next year in free agency that can stop the run and Brown will be a beast. 

So far, but will 100% change..... My interviews would be:

Ken Dorsey

Wes Phillips

Mike Kafka 

Luke Getsky 

Brian Callahan

Jonathan Gannon 

Positives....  two of their best lineman didn't play, Williams was out and Watson didn't play or we lose by 50.

We have a very easy schedule according to tankathon, which means if we are tied w teams we likely draft before them which is much needed.

Just now, ForJimmy said:

You missed the point man.  Get some sleep and read the post again in the morning.  You have Baker on the brain and can't seem to shake it....

And you think Baker is a franchise QB that can take us to a championship. 

29 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

You talking about Mitch vs Burrow or Cousins vs Rodgers.  Yeah they did this game, but that clearly isn't the end all because that would mean you think Mitch is better than Burrow and Cousins is better than Rodgers.  You aren't that dense right?  You just have a weird thing for Baker...

To recap Baker had 88 more yards a 6% higher completion rate on 7 less passing attempts with worse protection and a worse running game.  Oh and twice and many TDs.

from PFF

Offensive line spotlight: The Panthers' interior remained stout despite the tackles' struggles. The trio combined to allow only three hurries on 33 pass-blocking snaps apiece, headlined by a clean performance from center Pat Elflein.

LOL you keep using PFF though and maybe we can extend Elf for having such a "clean perfomance".........

https://www.pff.com/nfl/scores/2022/1/cleveland-browns_at_carolina-panthers_23101#recap

Um Mitch, Burrow, cousins and Rodgers are all much better than Mayfield... And Brisset out played him today w two of his lineman and a starting CB out...

29 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Oh know don't pivot.  Your logic that Brisset is better than Baker because his team won would imply Mitch is better than Burrow and Cousins is better than Rodgers.  See how it sounds when you use it with other teams....

Better PFF and QBR. Browns also had 2 lineman out and Greedy Williams and aren't good in the first place and we were at home.

2 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

lol didn’t you think Darnold was a legitimate pro? If I’m wrong; I’ll accept that, but I could’ve sworn you were saying similar about Sam.

He did. He is an idiot.

13 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Cousins>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Baker Mayfield

 

Brisset>Baker

LOL to anyone who think Bakers a franchise guy. As I told you guys.... he had the best roster in the NFL his one good year in 2020 and only won one playoff game because the Steelers had 7 players out and Mason Rudolph at QB and he barely won. The Browns knew he was ass and was the weak link and wanted him out so bad they gave a sexual predator the largest contract in history guaranteed. Dude sucks. Slightly and I mean slightly better than Darnold and got out played by Brisset. Imagine thinking he could carry a team to a Super Bowl. Oh and you want him back next year on a franchise tag at 30 mill and not sign Chinn/Burns. Been telling yall this all offseason. Oh and Rhule sucks.

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Why couldn't Burrow beat Mitch?  You do realize it's a team game right?  Who am I kidding you probably don't.....

Mitch is much better than Mayfield

6 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Again if you think that you didn't watch the game.  Baker had more yards on less attempts with a higher completion % and a better rating.  He had one INT, but 2 TDs to Brisset's 1.  Baker also got sacked 4 times more with a much inferior defense and run game.   Keep up with the name calling it shows you have no merit to your argument.

Why couldn't he beat Brisset then?

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

You compared me to a clown?  How rude.  I'm just saying this isn't the game to blame Baker after he woke up the second half and got us the lead late in the 4th.  That's why I'm assuming you didn't watch the game...  Either that or you just have no clue what you are talking about and regurgitate crap you read from other people like it's the truth.  I'm sure there will be games where he will play bad and then have fun blaming him.  I agree with Rhule sucking and I think a large portion of this loss can be blamed on him.

Baker sucks and got outplayed by Jacoby Brisset. You are right you are worse than a clown you are an idiot. 

Baker is soooo bad lol. Not a top 32 or starter in this league.... You're an idiot.

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Stop crying and grow up. Baker rallied this team with CMC. He had a game winning drive in which Rhule made them settle for a FG and then our “#2 defense” let them go right down the field. Is Trubisky better than Burrow because Burrow started off bad and lost to him? You are just crying because we didn’t get the win. Look at our OL play (first half), run defense (how many YAC did they average) and Rhule’s dumb decision to settle for a FG. Give me something legit instead of crying because we lost and blaming it on the QB who almost willed us a win we had no business getting. 

Im going to be right again and you will give me more excuses. Go look at my post compared to you clown. Delete your account. Baker sucks and Rhule sucks.

4 minutes ago, joemac said:

Warn us about what? How did you watch that whole game and come away thinking Mayfield is the problem? Did you turn it off after the first Q?

He got outplayed by freaking Jacoby Brisset. Wait till we play real teams....

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

You watched the game and that’s what you came away with? I’m just going to assume you didn’t watch.  

Brisset>Baker you're a fool if you think Baker is a starter in the NFL.... Let alone good? We have some dumb fans and I'm tired of it. Bet you're the type of guy to want Daniel Jones and Rhule to stick around next year. #IDIOT