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I hope he finds a good gig somewhere as he does deserve another shot. He came in and cleaned up the absolute ruins Matt Rhule left. I have to say it one more time because I dislike him as a coach so much but MATT RHULE SUCKS.

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think we should expect an Andy Reid type. Reid has been insanely successful no matter where he has been(only 7 of 24 seasons with less than 10 wins).

It would be nice but that is a pretty crazy bar to hit.

I really wasn't big on Reich and didn't know much about him so I have no idea what to think here. Hope he is our Andy Reid or turns out to be. He should at bare minimum know how to develop a QB since he was one at a high level.

8 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Why are Wilks supporters running down Reich’s Colts record but never bring up Wilks at Arizona? 

Goes against their narrative

5 minutes ago, Day1PanthersFan said:

4-12 is all that matters, and he had more talent than we did

And will probably be our record for the next 4 years 

You sir are a beacon of positivity and hope in a weary world!

Ummmm, anybody think he could have an Andy Reid type thing happen here in Carolina after he was fired in Indy? I don't know what to think of this hire in all honesty as I dont know much about him. Some of you guys got me on the Shane Steichen wagon so I was hoping he would get the nod from us. Does he have the Andy Reid ability or smarts to come here and do what Reid did in Kansas City? I have no idea so I thought I would ask someone who knows more about him than me.

3 hours ago, ncfan said:

Mine

Brady- Vegas

Lamar- Atlanta 

Lance- New Orleans (post camp)

Rodgers- Green Bay

Jimmy G- Jets

Carr- Tampa

 

Wow, after reading yours I do believe it all makes sense to me as well. Somehow my money is on you being at least 90% correct here.

Jeff Saturday is probably STILL a better head coach than that buffoon narcissistic ego inflated micromanaging idiot we had in charge (Rhule)

1 minute ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

If you were to look at the entirety of Fields passing numbers and not just how many yards he threw for you'd see his right on par with Cam when it comes to throwing the football.

He only threw the ball 318 times. The avg QB that starts 17 games probably averages close to 500+ attempts. He had 60% completion and avg'd 7.0 YPP. Solid numbers. He plays in a pretty crappy offense like Cam did in NE, Cam threw the ball only 368 times that year with 65% completion and 7.2 YPP and everyone gave him crap for how bad of a year he had statistically yet when you break it down and consider the offense the player is playing in the numbers aren't nearly as bad as the casual couch potato makes them out to be.

Like Cam, Fields will be an awesome QB with a chance to be great if Chicago ever gets their head out of their ass and learns how to build an offense around their young QB.

I just dont personally see it. Watching all Cams games and then now many of Fields to me Fields does not look like he has what Cam did to me. If I were picking between the two I would take Cam every single time with no second thoughts. Maybe im biased but I would not have drafted Fields where we did Horn. If I did not take Horn, i would have taken another player who turned out very well in retrospect. I guess what im saying is I dont feel if you take Justin Fields and swap him with Jalen Hurts in Philly that he could do what Hurts has done with that roster. I think Fields is good enough to be a QB in the NFL but I dont think he is this god some people around here make him out to be and claim we should have drafted after the fact when its all over.

On 1/23/2023 at 6:41 PM, RJK said:

I’d pay good money get that ***** in the ring and adjust his attitude 

Oh boy, if you want to adjust an attitude. I hear Cameron Jordan can be an asshole too. Maybe adjust his? Ray Lewis in his prime could be seen as an asshole, you should have probably challenged him too. If youre into wanting to beat up famous athletes I hear Mike Tyson had some attitude in his day. Maybe you could have taken on a 21 year old prime Tyson? Speaking of Tysons, Tyson Fury is an odd one, perhaps you want to fight him as well? Lots of attitudes out there, why take on what may be the weakest of them all? If im paying to see a pros vs Joes beat down I want to see a pro that can actually defend himself and do some serious damage himself on my tv screen not see someone beat up the ghost of Screech from saved by the bell.

6 hours ago, hepcat said:

Can anyone tell me what Fitterer has done to deserve staying though the next head coach? What’s his best move? Drafting Icky? Signing some offensive linemen who panned out?

As far as I can see he wasted a ton of resources on Sam Darnold who sucked ass most of the time he played for the Panthers, whiffed on re-signing some key players like Hasaan Reddick, drafted injury prone Jaycee Horn instead of Slater or Justin Fields…

Wait why is he still the GM again? 

Where is it written Justin Fields is the franchise changing amazing QB a few believe he is. I have seen some of his game sand he is a GREAT runner and mediocre-half way decent passer. If we had drafted him ourselves I would have been disappointed. Also Horn's being so injury prone are two injuries any other player would have had if they were in that same scenario. I understand it if he was laying out of every practice for BS reasons like a sore finger nail but the dude has had some bad luck so far. Does it mean every season will be this way? Cant say for sure but I personally doubt it. When Horn is playing CB he is WORLDS above better than Justin Fields is at his QB position. I dont understand some peoples obsession saying we should have drafted Fields. The most important thing a QB does is THROW the football and he is not even that great at it so far. Cam was 100 times the QB Fields is and I want another Cam at QB, not a Fields who runs great and often looks like he just wasnt meant to throw the football in the NFL.

I agree Fit has been bad in some situations and he has made some decent decisions in others. I would probably give him another year to see what he does before brining down the axe on him. Lets see what he can do as far as results from players on the field with an actual real NFL head coach leading our players and not the numb skull narcissist in over his head blame casting excuse making process propaganda spinning loser we had at coach. Im not saying Fit is a god or anything but he at least deserves a season alongside an actual NFL head coach with a functional brain. Im biased and pretty much think Mat Rhule was the worlds worst coach the NFL has ever seen not to mention the biggest whiny bitch back stabbing piss willy after the fact of being fired scourned lover ever. Lets see what Fit can do with someone who isnt a piece of dog poo.

9 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You also forgot 2 #1 WR's, a top 10 rb, and the best Oline in football.

 

Don't ignore the roster he has. Those guys are loaded he's just making the right calls. Those calls might not look as great with a lesser roster.

Just sayin...

I agree but I don't know anyone else other than Wilks or The jerk Payton to go with. Reich proved he is head coach material for awhile as well so I guess him too. I realize Steichen has a great roster but I almost feel like maybe he is worth taking a chance on. Who do you like?

At this point I would make Steichen my number one target. I would talk with Wilks again as well just because of his loyalty to us this season and I would probably speak to Payton on more time just because he has had success somewhere else (even though I can't stand that pill head).

I have been impressed with Steichen as well and am now feeling he would be worth taking a chance on. We took a chance with Rhule and it turned out awful but Steichen has pro experience with success and could be the piece of the puzzle we need of we can combine him with a very solid QB

9 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

As things Currently stand, we have interviewed the following:

• Steve Wilks
• Jim Caldwell
• Frank Reich
• Sean Payton
• Shane Steichen
• Ken Dorsey
• Mike Kafka
• Ejiro Evero

The following have spurned us and we are now big mad at them:

• Ben Johnson
• Demeco Ryans
• Jerrod Mayo

We have requested interviews with the following but they have not happened yet:

• Kellen Moore (Scheduled Tuesday)

A Summary of the first thread:

• Fit said it would be a small pool of candidates*
  • *It was not a small pool of candidates
• Wilks interviewed first and no one knows for sure who he would hire as OC but Holcomb would stay as DC
• We requested interviews from damn near everyone with a pulse who is a young up and coming OC
• Ben Johnson, local hero, decided Detroit is better and will stay with the lions next year
  • Fanbase had a collected sad about this and now Ben Johnson sucks.
• Harbaugh used us to get more money from Michigan
  • rippadon is big mad. Loves Harbaugh almost as much as Carson Strong
• Wildcard Weekend happens
  • Stock up: Kafka, Ryans, Moore
  • Stock Down: Dorsey
  • No Change: Wilks, Reich, Caldwell
• Sean Payton has entered the chat
  • Fanbase divided. Lines in sand are drawn. Buttholes across the fanbase pucker to the same shape as the one on Payton's face.
  • Speculation about speculating speculators regarding us hiring him.
  • We would have to give up more draft capital to get him than any other team since we are within the division
• We interviewed some seasoned candidates like Vic Fangio to be the DC in the event we hire a young OC to be the next HC
  • Fanbase is collectively OK with this.
• Tragic death of Anton Walkes of Charlotte FC temporarily pauses the search over the weekend
  • Props are given to Tepper for doing the right thing
• Division Weekend happens
  • Stock up: Steichen, Ryans, Payton
  • Stock Down: Moore, Dorsey, Kafka
• No change: Wilks, Caldwell, Reich
• Broncos seem to really want Payton too. Payton is weighing his options between all available openings because he can.
• Round two of interviews would happen next week.

 

A shorter summary of the search:

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Link to the last thread:

 

Please keep the discussions about the potential coaches, hirings, rumblings, stumblings, and bumblings.

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Oh I didn't even realize you were a moderator until I saw you lock the old thread. I didn't realize you were because you are not a douche rocket like some other ones. You now my my vote for head super moderator president of the board of moderators guy.

I will take AR. I don't believe we would have to trade up for him either so we keep most all of our draft picks we have this year. I will also take Levi's as I can see potential in him as well as long as we have a good coach in place who has a speciality of developing QB's as far as both of them goes. For me that makes Shane Steichen become very valuable and my number one candidate.

I think it's Steichen. I think we are waiting because he isn't officially available to hire due to Eagles still alive in the playoffs. The further they go, the higher his stock goes and the hotter he is. If we wait and miss out on him or lose him we will be settling on our version of a lesser candidate or we will end up chasing after Sean Payton if Denver hasn't snagged him yet. 

I would just rather take a chance with Steichen so we don't have to give up draft capital and Payton is a complete DICK WEED anyhow and I've always hated him. I won't deny he is a very good offensive but he is a complete douche hole by nature that makes Bill Belicheck look like a sweet heart so he isn't my first choice. Plus I can only see Payton in that ugly ass black and poo stained gold that he wore with the Taints. 

I would take a big chance on Steichen that he turns out to be quite the opposite of Matt Rhule and actually isn't a puts ball loser as Rhule was. At least he does have NFL success as a coordinator and has proven he can help develop QB's which is nothing like Matt Rhule.

27 minutes ago, DennisM1 said:

Why you even posted this bullshit is beyond me 

I'm thinking he posted it because it is a message board based upon conversation amongst fans. Should he have ran it by you for approval first?

3 hours ago, PantherPhann89 said:

I agree, but I don't think that his development would've been the same...

That is sad but I have a feeling you are very correct on that statement.

I dont know which one but as long as they are SEXY AS FUG we should be good.

What the fug is all the fighting about? I dont get it? I can see some valid points from almost everyone in this thread but everyone has a slightly different spin which is cool anyhow. Debate amongst fellow fans is good right? 

2 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

CMC would not have saved the Bills today

Burrow is a franchise changer like Brady, Allen is merely a good QB like Phillip Rivers

I dont know about that, I feel like they both are franchise changers and both are amazing QB's. I see where you are coming from but I see Allen just as solid and just as gifted.

19 minutes ago, Hogan said:

I've been lurking here for awhile but hadn't signed up until now. I'm an original PSL owner so I have been at this for awhile.

My response to this post. It's all about coaching. In my opinion, Hurts has become Hurts because of coaching. Purdy has become Purdy because of coaching. Mahomes, drafted with the TENTH pick in the 2017 draft, has become Mahomes because of coaching. 

It's NOT just having a high draft pick and then using it to draft a QB. It's also having a coach that can develop that QB. Normally, if a defensive coach/DC becomes the head coach, he then has to find a offensive coach/QB coach to develop his young QB. And normally, if that offensive/QB coach is really good, he moves on the be a head coach. And the defensive coach (Wilks/Rivera/Fox is FOREVER looking to find the next QB/OC.

The point: Great offensive minds/QB coaches don't stay assistants long. They become head coaches

 

Hard to argue with that. Great post.

He wasn't absolutely on fire as you can tell he is still hurting from his injury but even in that he was consistent and a great leader. It hurts to know we could have had him but I'm sure we like many others and even myself did not think he would turn out to be much at all other than a career backup at VERY best. I myself did not even think he would be in the league long and would be gone within a few years. He not only belongs but is the heart and soul of their franchise. Somehow the eagles struck absolute gold with him and he also seems to be one hell of a decent guy. I wish we could have a game changing team leading soul of the franchise again like Hurts is to the eagles. Haven't had it since Cam and I sure wish we could find our next cam or the next Jalen Hurts. That guy is such a special talent.

I guess many teams are kicking themselves that they did not notice how good he could potentially be but the eagles were smart enough to take that chance on him and roll the dice. I would give up any QB on the roster right now and a couple firsts for him without even second thinking as I'm sure many others would as well but of course eagles aren't trading him for anything obviously.

28 minutes ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

Wow. Daboll looked like one hell of a coach tonight. 

Because we all know good coaches never lose any games at all.