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5 minutes ago, Icege said:

Anybody with an ounce of intellectual honesty can click back to page 3 of this thread and see the misogynistic behavior on full display. You might not have participated in it, but it's right there.

I was referring to my point of view and that it has nothing to do with her being female. Can’t speak for some of the other idiots in this thread.

20 minutes ago, travisura said:

This thread has become egregiously misogynist.

It has absolutely nothing to do with her being a female. Just most competent franchises turn to search committees or ex HOF Executives. But no, not dumpster Dave. He defers to Nicole, who has zero football background.

16 hours ago, Mother Grabber said:

yes, tepper is a joke because of compliance training.

y’all will whine about anything.

Yeah pretty sure interjecting your wife into the middle of a head coaching search that she’s grossly under qualified for, and failing to put her through the proper and league mandated compliance training, which is only in place due to the whole Brian Flores lawsuit that happened literally less than a year ago qualifies you as a joke.

maybe, just maybe you get away with it if you haven’t been an utter dumpster fire since you took over, but unfortunately that’s not the case for Dave.

Repeat after me. David Tepper is a joke.

According to Jonathan Jones. Nicole Tepper not properly trained to be conducting interviews.

4 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

Because when you are getting one sentence dismissive posts, those aren't worth responding to either. I love debating posts with laid out arguments, but too often once any football based rebuttal is made it turns in to a name calling contest or worst. Also, Wilks wouldn't be an abysmal hire. He may not be the one you want, but abysmal is laughable. 

i agree with you. i was being kind with abysmal. it would be way worse.

1 minute ago, beo said:

ahhh yes, because as we all know, the date someone joined the huddle is the exact moment they became a panthers fan. You're not actually delusional enough to think that the vaunted 2015 bandwagoners are still following this team in 2022 right? 

my answer isn't final anyway, I just put no because it's what I'm leaning towards and I don't really expect Payton to actually be hired. I'll have to seriously mull it over if the time comes; hopefully it won't.

It is batshit crazy or you’re a bandwagon for you to even be mulling the possibility of giving up on your team because they might hire a coach you don’t like. 

Getting eggplant emojis from someone who joined after 2015. Tells me all I need to know.

7 out of 12 who voted no signed up for these boards after 2015. Tells you everything you need to know about those who voted noted.

pleasantly surprised by the results. Was expecting to click and see closer results.

1 minute ago, SetfreexX said:

The other bars provided were limited at best...and without context. 

If it's derailed its derailed by those with no intent to have an open conversation about it versus simply dismissing the notion like has been done by many, or simply, ''not making it past the title'' which is why those folks were categorized and I even included ''in jest'' as to not seriously demean, belittle, or provoke. 

It seems that effort may have been lost in the effort to respond as quick as possible to ''call me out''. 

Nah I’ve been reading this thread and there have been multiple people including myself who have given you legitimate reasons to why wilks would be an abysmal hire.

but you only respond to the posts that are calling you out or patting you on the back.

5 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

Spoken like a true huddler...

Fact is, he resurrected this team damn near instantly with nothing to work with in the QB dept. 

he went 6-6. What did he resurrect, blew 2 golden opportunities to make the playoffs. First game he lost at home to backup qb with Pittsburgh. Then his defense, which is his specialty, completely crapped the bed against Tampa to win the division.

If we are celebrating him closing our strong against New Orleans, then idk what to tell you. Thst might have been the single worst offensive performance I’ve ever seen and I’ve watched Jimmy clausen and Randy fasani.

let’s not forget about his wonderful 3-13 stint with the Arizona cardinals. Let’s not forget about him getting fired one year with Cleveland after that. The only defensive coordinator job he was able to land after that was at Missouri, a bottom level SEC job. Not one team outside the panthers have interviewed him for a head coaching job post Arizona.

if you honestly watch the nfl and see the direction the game is headed and the coaches who are running the dominant teams in the nfl and still think wilks is the answer, then I have no idea what to tell you. You are beyond lost. 
 

i promise you if wilks is hired, we are looking for our next coach at a minimum 3 years from now. 

1 hour ago, SetfreexX said:

There's a lot of buzz out there and rightfully so, but I think we should hire Steve Wilks.

Think about where we were in as recent as 2018 -- 6-2, on the verge of a playoff caliber season, and then the hit happens. 

Fast forward to 2019 -- Lisfranc ends Cam's season in by Week 3 I believe it was (The TNF game where CMC came up short to win)

2020 - 2022 - The biggest poo show I have EVER witnessed at the professional level (outside Meyer), Rhule comes in preaching a college style rebuild, strips any and all ties to what makes the Panthers the Panthers in the first place, and inserts his generic ''insert team name here'' OOU crap (if you don't know about the OOU stuff look it up)

• In this time we cut Cam, and replace him with Teddy B for ''MORE MONEY'' only to trade him a season later for a 6th or 7th while eating dead cap, we pass on QBs in the 2021 draft because we traded for Sam and gave up a haul to get for a QB who was a bust at that point, and before the 2021 draft ends, we've guaranteed his 5th year at short of 19M. Sam and the OL are a complete poo show in 2021, in 2022 we trade for another QB his current team wanted to replace / upgrade from Baker Mayfield, who somehow even with the new OL, CMC, and DJ was worse than Sam, and ends up benched in favor of PJ Walker. 
• In this time Rhule won 11 games - 5-11 / 5-12 / 1-4 - two and a half years into his ''7'' year plan. 

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I say all of that to set up the following, anyone with a set of eyes knows that Wilks was set up to fail once management decided not to let him select his QB - ''see Josh Rosen since his time in ARI''. People may forget how old that team had become after the Bruce Arians run there with Carson Palmer. Wilks finishes 3-13 and is replaced by an inexperienced coach, who was just FIRED in college, and is given the chance to draft ''his guy'' Kyler number one overall only to be fired after the 3rd year.

Wilks helped the Panthers become a serious team again going 6-6 over 12 games winning more games in a shortened stint than Rhule ever did in any full season, and did so with even less than Rhule had at his disposal at any point in time. CMC was injured under Rhule...ok he was traded for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Robbie who was a thousand yard receiver became a JAG with Sam, and Baker, he was eventually traded away for a 5th from ARI if memory serves. Chuba who many of us likely loathed after the bad hands / fumbles in his rookie year, all of a sudden became a legit contributor, and D'Onta established himself as one of the better backs in the league run production wise, and was less than 100 yards away from a 1,000 yard season had it not been for a weak ejection in Week 18. Then the biggest Rhule snubs TMJ, and Bozeman, TMJ showed you why he was a 2nd round pick flashing the 50/50 ball ability, along side his speed / size / athleticism. Bozeman came in and immediately anchored the OL a unit that was as sound as any for the majority of the year even with a rookie, and two new additions in free agency and Brady C in year two. 

''But he's too conservative'' let's be honest, looking at what we had on offense / who was calling the plays, alongside the fact that our defense while solid / good is limited no 2nd pass rusher, question marks in the secondary, speed at the second level, etc. we were not constructed to be overly aggressive, for the most part we were aggressive when needed for the most part, and maybe we left some plays out there we'd like to have back in hindsight -- news flash, all coaches / every team feels this way. 

Considering Wilks took a 1-4 team, and got them to 7-10 with all we had surrounding us is about as impressive as it gets, and what's more...the players respect him / his approach. He helped set franchise....let me repeat that FRANCHISE records offensively even though he has a defensive background. To me if you are Tepper, let's see where this goes under his leadership, let him hire ''his'' staff. Many of you may not have known this but see this quote from Rivera:

“The hard part for him there, he was the last guy hired,” Rivera said for Sports Illustrated. “So all the guys that were on his coaching list, they were already locked in. He had to hire guys that he really didn’t want to have to hire. He had to keep guys he didn’t want to keep.”

https://cardswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/04/ron-rivera-steve-wilks-coaching-staff-with-cardinals-was-part-of-problem-in-2018/#:~:text=Offensive coordinator Mike McCoy was,Foote%2C Steve Heiden and others.

That is huge, I don't agree with giving coaches ''full'' roster control (what is rumored for Payton), but they need to be able to hire their staff, these are the guys they work with week in and week out, you need that group of men to be on the same page if you want to see results.

I think we have the right guy, we just need to give him the opportunity, 3 year deal, league average salary, and let's keep Panther's football moving forward -- #KEEPPOUNDING

Stopped reading at the title of the post. That’s a lot of words to just say I have no idea what I’m taking about. 

Positives: He brought music back to Charlotte.

Negatives: Literally every single thing hes done since the second he was announced as owner of this franchise.

side note, music never left Charlotte.

I’d be way more offended with Steve wilks on the sidelines than Sean Payton. 
 

steve smith punched 2 teammates in the face for no reason. Sucker punched them. Still cheered like hell when he made the hall of honor. 

5 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

He literally just scrolls down and tweets exactly what blue checks say lol

Lol he tweets everything every second of the day 

Was my number 1 choice. Makes me think Payton is the guy and that’s where Tepper is focused.

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You’re a guy who has been around here from the beginning and one of the few posters still around I stop to read their posts when they post. I know you are no front runner so I ask this genuinely and not judgement.

if Sean Payton is hired by the panthers, you are done with the franchise for good ? Or until they hire someone new? Will you quit the nfl or pick a new team?

13 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't want Wilks but hiring Sean Payton is a redline for me.

Can I ask why?

its simple. david tepper is incompetent. he does everything ass backwards and its going to take a lot of luck to win in despite of him. 

20 hours ago, ncfan said:

Will Kunkle who covers the Panthers just said on WFNZ 

“I don’t think the Panthers draft a QB”  

“They don’t like any of the QBs that are expected to be available.  And do not want to move up for one of these guys.”

 

i cant stress enough that will kunkle has absolutely no idea who they like. also in the slight chance this is correct, it will be just another wasted season. 

Wilks would be rock bottom fold the franchise up and move it to the UK or St. Louis type of hire.

I wouldnt mind Frank Reich. He is a solid coach who has proven he could win before.

But the move is to hire Ben Johnson, Shane Steichen, or Ken Dorsey. Johnson is my number one choice, but would be happy with the other two. It takes a special talent to make Jared Goff to look like a starting NFL QB.

I have zero interest in Kafka, Mayo, or Moore.

I do like Ryans, but watching Saleh first hand scares me off. This is an offensive league and if you are going to take a chance with a first time head coach, i think it should be someone with an offense background. 

To be fair is she any less qualified than Steve Drummond? This franchise is a joke.

5 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

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Means nothing coming from the guy giving out poop emojis to people posting about mike leach dying. That’s not stable behavior. I’ll pray for you.