Cdparr7

I like how we don’t even try to run the ball anymore. Like “yeah 4 zones runs are enough”

Leave James.Campen in Seattle

Even if we didn’t take Stroud, we could have signed Carr, kept DJ Moore, drafted another receiver, and kept our first this year but nooooooo…. poo the guy posting that.

1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

I wonder how much of Reich’s system played a role in drafting Young. That’s my new concern. Obviously Reich’s system is dependant on getting the ball out quick/processing quick. I wonder how many new school OC’s would honestly draft Young over Stroud and Richardson 

Probably something we can agree on.

Frank runs the West Coast Spread which is designed more pass heavy and emphasizes getting the ball out quickly on short yardage routes with occasional zone runs and read options to manipulate gap assignment on the defense. Usually requires: An agile and athletic OL, QB with a quick release and good vision, a decent pass catching back, and sure handed receivers. The west coast spread does not depend on speedy receivers to gain separation because the offense is designed to spread out the defense and create 1on1 match ups with a QB who can place the ball in tight windows quickly. 

However, we have an OL designed for power run schemes between the tackles, whatever WRs we could get our hands on, and a young QB who hesitates and most likely doesn't have the clearest of vision (not making fun of his height, just being honest). 

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

yeah, I'm must talking about in the world of retreads though.  Which isn't the path I generally would argue for.  Unless the Steelers happened to fire Mike Tomlin type or something.   Which would be a version of KC landing Andy Reid.  I can handle those retreads. 

I think in today's NFL.  You should try to go the route the Rams, Phins, 49ers etc went. Young offensive minds.   I like those gambles better than going after failed HCs.   Especially older ones. 

I wanted McCarthy after Ron was let go and I still stand by that. We are going to be through 2 HCs before McCarthy is out of Dallas. 80% of retreads are that for a reason but 20% or so learn from mistakes or come out of a bad situation. (Belichick, Dungy, Pederson, Fox, Carroll, Reid) but most are garbage.

1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

You'd have to be a full blown moron to keep wanting to play this game 

I would still take that over what I’ve seen the last two weeks. I don’t see 12 attempts in 10sq ft area like I do BYs because he has to roll to the right to see.

1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

Looks similar to when they were coddling Sam Darnold

The what?

For those that haven’t seen yet.

We are wearing black Sunday. We have history of not doing well in black on the road.

1 minute ago, frankw said:

Dalton will make a wow play from time to time and may even get us on the board but just like Darnold he will eventually have one or multiple boneheaded plays that sink the game for us. It won't be pretty in Seattle which is a tough place to play anyway.

The two are very different QBs. It is completely possible that Dalton throws 2+ TDs and 250+ yards and the huddle implodes so hard that rips the fabric of space and time causing a black hole that consumes every fan and then eventually itself, turning us into the new Cleveland Browns.

1 minute ago, Cdparr7 said:

Burns you could easily get that plus some. Maybe not two firsts anymore but definitely 1 and some change.

You could probably get one for Chinn from the right trade partner but more likely multiple day 2 picks. 
 

Nobody wants to hear it but you could probably get a good haul for Taylor Moton before he gets too old and starts getting banged up. Would be easier to replace on the right side as well. But, with Ickey being iffy in this offense, you don’t want to look for 2 OTs this offseason.

And when I say the right trade partner for Chinn. It would have to be right before the deadline from a team who needed SS help bad and thought they had a reasonable shot at the postseason. Otherwise, he is more like a 2 and 4 or a 2 and a next year 3.

Burns you could easily get that plus some. Maybe not two firsts anymore but definitely 1 and some change.

You could probably get one for Chinn from the right trade partner but more likely multiple day 2 picks. 
 

Nobody wants to hear it but you could probably get a good haul for Taylor Moton before he gets too old and starts getting banged up. Would be easier to replace on the right side as well. But, with Ickey being iffy in this offense, you don’t want to look for 2 OTs this offseason.

Frank Reich seemed super depressed in the presser today. Not sure if from the Bryce injury or that his expectations have been lowered. Seems like a guy who was lied to or set up to fail and just trying to make the best of a situation. 
 

Not a Reich fan, just what I observed by his body language. Reminded me of new sales guy at work trying to explain how a product works for the first time.

4 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Trash trash trash trash trash. All those markets are ass compared to charlotte

Exactly. Charlotte is growing very very fast. Nobody is going anywhere. And if Charlotte was vacated there would be a team relocated here in less than two years. Probably Tennessee or Jacksonville.

27 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Dalton's definitely The Guy. Bryce "Teddy Clausen" could never top this. 

He is without question the best QB to get dressed for us since Cam’s first tour. Even better than second Cam.

Just now, Newtcase said:

Hey Tom Brady was Superbowl MVP at 43!  If everyone can compare Bryce to Peyton Manning for no good reason then we can certainly compare Dalton to Brady for the same no good reasons.

Carson Palmer, Fitzpatrick, and few other guys had some solid years in their late 30s. Another example is our QB coach.

Just now, DJ feed me moore said:

drafted an alcoholic over Sam Howell.

Howell>Young

Brutal but honest

56 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Like most conspiracy theories, this one makes little to no sense.

You don't think Frank Reich realizes that if Bryce fails his career as a head coach is over? What would be the point of trying to hide him like this when even a playoff berth with Andy Dalton at QB wouldn't save Reich in the long run if Bryce ends up being a bust.

I think it’s more believable that Frank wants Bryce to sit a few games to watch Dalton and see the game and game speed from the sideline. If Dalton plays you’ll probably see Bryce no more than 6” away from Josh McCown at all times with an iPad

Dalton going to come out and throw 3 tuds and send the fan base into a frenzy.

2 hours ago, CRA said:

I think Campen is overrrated around here.  If you are on 5 different staffs/teams in 5 years and end up on Matt Rhule’s squad…..you probably aren’t an all star.   I don’t think he is a bad coach.   But he sort had been billed as on of our strengths and his resume doesn’t back that. 

I too believe he is a bit overrated. He’s average in the NFL we just have had some horrible OL coaches which inflates his value.

In his defense he has had some bad luck. He was let go with McCarthys crew and went to Cleveland with Kitchens but Kitchens was fired after a season, then he went to LA with Lynn which turned out to be his last season, and then he went to Houston where it was Culley’s only season and then ended up with Matt in Carolina where it was his last season, and Frank just retained him.

18m a year or so. He’s not Crosby, Bosa, Garrett, etc. 

5 years, 100 million with 70 guaranteed is fair. That’s around 20 per year.

9 hours ago, Smithers said:

Rumor has it Thomas is still hiding in the X-ray room as of this morning . 

Along with Ben McAdoo who still hasn’t been told to leave.

9 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Ya…. That’s rough. Luvu maybe? I don’t really know who else is guaranteed to be on the field every snap.

The way he’s been playing I hope it’s Woods

1 hour ago, Varking said:

Not with their play calling. Any team that runs a screen out of the same formation three plays in a row while down and under 2 minutes to go isn’t a place a QB is going to thrive. 

I just had Jeff Davidson flashbacks,

8 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

No the offense has gotten worse since we cut Bridgewater. He was the best Qb we've had since a prime Cam Newton. But butt hurt fans wanted to rag him about dink and dunk. Now they've seen what real dink and dunk looks like from Donald to the young Byrce (hopefully he gets better)

Brady was here in 2021 and got fired as mentioned because the offense was stagnant.

So if you going to give credit, give it to who really deserved it. 

Sorry but Darnold last year (as pitiful as it sounds) was the best QB since we cut Cam. If  I’m not mistaken he is also the winningest QB in the past 5 years for us as well.

People forget Teddy throwing 2 yard check downs the entire game.