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37 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

You going off of last night or last week's game?

I’m going off of all of it. 

PJ is 11/29 in the preseason. That’s 38% completion %.

Will is 17/24 that’s 70%.

PJ threw 1TD and 5INTs in 6 quarters last year. He beat a Lions team that was worse than us when our defense balled out.

Grier played as a rookie under Scott Turner and Perry Fewell 3 years ago.

PJ may have been good in the 3 or 4 games in the XFL but the XFL was a joke, this is the NFL.

Grier was even better in college.

Theres a reason PJ went undrafted and sat on the Colts practice squad. Had he not balled out with all the other cast always in the XFL and had Matt Rhule to give him a job, he wouldn’t be employed. 
 

Not saying Grier is great, but he’s better than PJ and fits our Offense better.

29 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

PJ Walker is a much better QB than Will Grier 

Statistics would disagree with you.

Drop the seventh we got for Little.

The PJ crowd is worse than the Matt Moore/Kyle Allen crowd combined.

Just now, CRA said:

Some more preseason stats 

PJ  - 0 sacks

Grier - 3 sacks

PJ - 2 80 yard drives 

Grier - 1 50 yard drive 

 

37.8% completion % my guy.

4 minutes ago, Snake said:

I will say the Will Grier pick still just puzzles me. He was never going to be a Air Coryell QB and even under the WCO his arm is very weak. Not his fault our scouting department sucked but he should have been 7th round at best. I mean he wasn't even good in college.

He wasn’t as bad as you think.

Possibly. I’ve seen OL on the sidelines dipping. Specifically Kalil or Norwell (I think) a couple years ago and was shocked.

Chewing/Dipping isn’t as hard on the body as smoking but for athletes it still has its drawbacks. Also surprised the NFL would allow it on the sidelines.

1 hour ago, PootieNunu said:

I guess the great QB controversy of 2021 is over. 1/8 for 8 yards, starting qb material right there...

He has a 37.8 completion % this preseason on 29 attempts.

If I have to pick between the 2, I pick Grier. We have more invested in him and he is younger.

This Preseason:

Grier: 17/24 (70.8%) 175yds 0TD 0INT

Walker: 11/29 (37.9%) 169yds 1TD 0INT

Both have spent about the same time with 2s and 3s.

Grier started his 2 games as a rookie when we were hopeless and Fewell was coach in 2018.

PJ threw 1TD and 5INTs in 6 quarters last season. He didn’t beat the Lions the defense did.

I would personally prefer them to bring in a vet. But between the 2, I really don’t see why it’s close. This isn’t the XFL. The only reason PJ is here is because of the Rhule factor.

On 8/15/2021 at 4:29 PM, Zod said:

I can't see how they justify keeping Grier around at this point. They will need him for the third preseason game, and PERHAPS put him on the practice squad to run the scout team. Other than that, I think PJ showed today he is light years ahead of Grier. 

This aged well

27 minutes ago, CPsinceDay1 said:

PJ 10/21 is just as bad, and he's not even consider a NFL QB. 

Actually 19/36 is slightly better. 5% better. 

4 hours ago, CPsinceDay1 said:

When the XFL opens back up, Darnold will be looking for employment...

And I'm sure he'll look like he belongs there

Like PJ did?

(3) QB:Darnold, Walker/Grier

(4)RB: McCaffrey, Hubbard, Smith, Cannon

(1) H-Back/FB: Tremble

(3) WR: Moore, Marshall, Zylstra

(3) WR: Anderson, Moore, Smith

(2) TE: Arnold, Thomas

(2) LT: Moton, Erving

(2) LG: Eiflein, Daley

(1) C : Paradis

(2) RG: Miller, Brown

(2) RT: Christensen, Scott

(2) DE: Burns, Haynes, 

(2) DT: Brown, Roy

(2) DT: Jones, Nixon

(2) DE: Fox, Gross-Matos

(2) OLB: Reddick, Luvu, Stanford

(3) MLB: Carter, Perryman, Johnston 

(3) OLB: Thompson, Bynes, 

(3)CB: Jackson, Bouye, Taylor

(3)CB: Horn, Hartsfield, Oliver-Thomas

(2) FS: Chinn, Robinson

(2)SS: Burris, Franklin 

(1) K: Slye

(1) P: Charleton

(1) LS: Fletcher

Henry To’o To’o is probably the closest thing to him right now. Hopefully QB and Left Tackle go smooth so we could go get him.

36 minutes ago, FamOstinato said:

So basically you are giving Sam D a pass for his interceptions right? He average one per game with a 58.9%. These are the facts. Plus have yet to complete a full season. But your not worried. 

Considering this account was created 15 days ago, I’m guessing this is a different account.

No, PJ I’m not worried. Darnold situation was much different than yours when you do the offensive comparison. Darnold actually had a job and was drafted 3rd overall. While you were undrafted and cut placed on the PS where you belong.

34 minutes ago, CPsinceDay1 said:

Question: When is Darnold going actually start ????

Weeks 1-17 of the regular season. That is typically when starting QBs play. This reduces the chances of losing your starting QB to injury during the preseason and increases your chances of success by starting your most qualified signal caller during the games that impact your record.

Now since that has been explained, let’s take a second to address your grammar on that post.

”Question: When is Darnold going actually start ????”

The correct way to ask this question would be “When do you think Darnold is going to actually start?” OR “I have a question, when is Darnold going to start?”

Phrasing is this way makes it easier for the reader. Also there is an excess of punctuation that is not necessary.

21 minutes ago, CPsinceDay1 said:

While Rhule also added that he’s undecided on if the team’s starters will be a go, it’ll be nice (and fair) to see Grier at least work with the likes of Terrace Marshall Jr., Omar Bayless and Tommy Tremble, as P.J. Walker did in his largely positive performance

That last part...lol

All this proves they rather go with Grier>Darnold

 

It was largely positive because the expectations from last season were dirt low. They are literally saying 10/21 is a positive performance for him.

Darnold is the starter, not going to change unless somebody gets injured. 
 

Grier/Walker are both below average back up QBs.

12 minutes ago, CPsinceDay1 said:

You putting alot of pressure on Darnold for week 1, if he loses that game, not the team...even Jesus won't be able to fix it.

Darnold will be fine.

Likely gonna see

Moton, Erving, Daley, Eiflein, Paradis, Miller, Brown, Christensen, Scott as the 9 with Eiflein being the back up center. 
 

Don’t think we will carry Tecklenburg on the 53 with Eiflein on the roster. Likely another PS year for him.

But yet Martez Ivey sees another day.

Cut him and pick up a guy with some experience to play behind Carter.

6 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

I'm enjoying this banter.

Gonna leave this here for the PJ crowd.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/pantherswire.usatoday.com/2021/08/17/panthers-qb-will-grier-preseason-ravens/amp/

16 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

I've never heard a word about PJ performing better in practice?  Also, how do you explain how PJ looked in his actual game time last season?

He hasn’t been. Grier has been taking reps with the 2s for the past week or so.