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2 minutes ago, Smithers said:

How?  He missed one throw, and Hurst was held the entire time.  Bryce is balling 

Balling? Wtf. Nah Tua is BALLING, Bryce is throwing the ball to Thielen 

What a stupid, ignorant, idiotic, play call.

What kind of fug tard does that on 4th down.

1 minute ago, PanthersATL said:

Ever?

Kasay might disagree

He has a permanent stain, we don’t talk about him.

Just now, Cam Lawter said:

Only way we winning this game is forcing turnovers. We already have a missed FG and turnover on downs and only down 7. It's not that bad so far. Hopefully, Evero makes some good adjustments at the half. 

Miami gets the ball after half. They are going to go down the field and score and we are going to fall apart

Just now, kungfoodude said:

He is literally the best kicker we have ever had. I would chill on that.

They don't make them all.

Actually it was Harrison Butker before he was traded away for peanuts 

See these are the games and moments Burns needs to make plays. This is why he isn’t getting paid.

Watch he will make a play in about an hour when we are down by 21 and it don’t matter.

Armstead is also out

It’s been 6 goddamn years, why hasn’t Jackson learned how to wrap up. 
 

He still does the same fugin arm tackling bullshit

4 hours ago, BrisbanePanther said:

Yes, how many who pooed the tankers are also angry with what was given up in the trade to go to #1?

Yes, but many of the anti-tankers wanted Wilks. Which means there is a good chance we don’t move up to 1. 
 

There is also a good chance we are over .500 right now too.

18 hours ago, 4Corners said:

Thomas makes Kris Mangum look like Antonio Gates

Makes Michael Gaines look like Alge Crumpler

Really think it’s over by halftime, like 28-0. Then we score a bunch of trash time points against there back ups and loose coverage so we can hear about how we “finished strong”.

Dolphins 41 Panthers 21

I do think he is too far into the day to day business. I’m not really a fan of Tepper but I think eventually he is going to figure what he’s doing. He’s too far into the day to day not to. 
 

The question is how long does it take him. 

It’s probably the only thing that will motivate Tepper to tear down everything, front office included. 

1 hour ago, KSpan said:

Had all of those in 2010 minus Olsen and we all saw how that went, so I assume you mean a competent QB as well.

Mike Goodson was our running back last part of the season. Williams and Stewart missed most of it. 2010’s demise was mostly Fox/Davidson + Clausen with no run game.

It may shock some people. But a lot of our “best” players would be average anywhere else. 

We are running the spread with guys brought in for an opposite type of offense. We are running a 3-4 zone with guys brought in to run 4-3 man primarily. It’s a clusterfug.

And the worst part, most of the guys “brought in” aren’t really that good to begin with. 

Uh.. 

Just Steve Smith is game changer. Give me Smith, Olsen, Williams, Gross, Kalil,  and Stewart and we will still win 8 games with Randy Fasani at QB and Fewell coaching.

Well when Miami got their SBs we were still fighting in Vietnam. Since Marino retired they have been us this year, ever year.

Sometimes I like seeing teams that haven’t won in a long time win again but then after about a season I’m ready for them to go back in the basement. I imagine people feel the same about us when we had up years.

I really do believe he has the processing ability and I think he’s smart when it comes to the playbook. But it’s like trying to have a 6’8” RB or a 175lb Edge. It’s just not going to work. 
 

I said this in another thread but..

1) Reich runs him heavy out of the shotgun for 2 reasons. A) So he isn’t wasting processing time dropping back and B) he needs more time to process because he has to make reads between openings in the pocket. 

2) He can’t run a traditional pro style offense or much under center. (See bullet point 1)

3) His arm strength scares me. Really struggles getting the zip if he can’t go through his full technique. But I do give him credit he has the ability to see things open up when he gets out of the pocket, these aren’t really great throws they are just good reads as things are breaking down.

4) He’s slow. He moves Brady like. Yeah, he had the big scramble against NO when they were playing 20 yards off the ball but watching him try to get out of a mess is embarrassing. He looks like a deer stuck in quicksand and in 3 different games has had the ball come flying out of his hands when he was touched.

5) His frame still concerns me. There have been a few plays where I thought he was crushed. I still think this could become an issue eventually. 
 

Overall, I think he has the mental ability but not the physical ability and size. Best case scenario if they stick with him they need to build an offense that he can be his best in. Need to rebuild the OL to quick agile guys that are built for zone blocking and have a strong run game, utilize the screen game strategically and not ever play, and have some big possession WRs he can trust to go get it when they have to. Problem is we built this team for the opposite, we built an OL for a Verical Power Run offense centered around the run and PA pass.

I had my doubts in the Spring, still have said doubts about his overall ability. He has to stay in Shotgun to have time to process his routes because of his limited vision. His best throws are when he rolls out and can see. All 4 picks have came from sitting in the pocket, not from running around and forcing something. 
 

There are also times he struggles to get the ball 15-20 yards down field. If he can’t go through his full throwing motion, the ball comes out with zero zip. He severely under threw Chark 15 yards away because he didn’t plant his front foot. You should be able to make that throw sitting on your couch.
 

This year is going to be a scratch, next year needs to show some improvement. But honestly if it’s the same song and dance EOS 2024, year 3 isn’t going to matter. 

We are still a 3 win team at worst. We will beat some poorly injury stricken mess of team, win one game for no explainable reason  we are supposed to lose, and win some scrappy contest with a divisional team. I say 3 minimum. Probably in December where Reich is like 14-4 (or something) in his coaching career.

My guess, we beat whatever is left of the Saints in December, despite their win the wheels are coming off, beat Tampa after Baker has a Baker day, and beat Jacksonville for no good reason other than, why not. There are still a couple others we have a shot in. 

Element of surprise maybe? I don’t know. He’s not a bad blocker. He really has improved there. Occasionally he whiffs a block or so but he still has the same route running and catching ability as his rookie season. I almost feel like he has regressed a bit in that aspect.