Lemon

23 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

When does this fan base not embarrass itself. Even more so as these people don't even watch the other NFL games much less CFB. Their takes are right out of First Take rofl

They watch only the Panthers and get their draft info from ESPN

To be fair the franchise embarrasses itself far more than the fanbase. The team loses, the fans react.

3 minutes ago, Masterson said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2021/3/25/22309445/what-makes-jaycee-horn-the-best-cornerback-in-the-2021-nfl-draft

Give this a look, this guy's athleticism/freakishness is Calvin Johnson esk. Regardless glad we solidified our secondary with this pick. Our skill players on offense look good and I could see some good steals at O line in second round. Overall I wanted us to get top corner and we did.

Steals at offensive line? It's going to take a trade up. It's been like this the last few years. Second round offensive line talent takes trading up.

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

We do still have seven picks left.

Oh I know, but you and me both know that it's going to get harder and harder to find the talent.

I don't want to think of this like a Cam re-run, but this feels like what we did to Cam. Took too many luxury (arguable because we're lacking protection for the most important position on the field) picks instead of trying to build the offensive line.

I just think they've really placed themselves into a corner (no pun intended). I hope they have some trade in mind for an established LT, if that's even a possibility.

I feel like they've forced themselves into a corner. They really need to get Sam more protection.

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I think they did find one.

Unfortunately, he was taken one pick ahead of us.

It doesn't really matter now. It's Sam vs the world.

4 minutes ago, ATLpanther said:

Yeah. Not arguing that. But there’s irrational/unreasonable options and there are reasonable opinions. Lots of cry baby, irrational opinions on here. 

I mean that's arguable what's unreasonable. Last year people were being banned for essentially give their real takes on Teddy Bridgewater not being franchise material. At least it's not at that level locked down discussion right now.

I use to like Brett, but after a few years of watching his videos I learned to take his videos with a major grain of salt.

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

They were already asked about Fields...

https://twitter.com/DNewtonespn/status/1387949953528614918

To those that wonder why the Panthers didn't draft Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields to compete with Sam Darnold, and instead selected South Carolina cornerback Jaycee Horn, here's what coach Matt Rhule said: "We brought Sam here for a reason. We’re excited to see what he can do. We traded for him because we believe his potential.'' In other words, they feel Darnold is better than Fields and Horn can help more.

If that's true why not find a tackle for him though? They're really hanging Sam out to dry.

Also, all eggs in one basket it is then.

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He wanted Fields.

If that's true than if Fields does well I expect a house cleaning next season. I don't imagine Tepper as a patient man.

Just now, Lemon said:

This forum is quite an entity of isomerism and cliques. It's weird that even people that were staunchly in favor of a LT for months to give Sam a real chance changed their tune quick just to go along with the front office, and the crowd.

*homerism

Just now, Cpt slay a ho said:

Yeah idk why that’s even being discussed, he was clearly not the first option, unless the jets weren’t willing to trade him at the time we were interested in Stafford 

This forum is quite an entity of isomerism and cliques. It's weird that even people that were staunchly in favor of a LT for months to give Sam a real chance changed their tune quick just to go along with the front office, and the crowd.

11 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

No you're hedging your bet that this coaching can develop a player with better god giving talent then the 4th or 5th QB in this draft.. Plain and simple 

Your backup plan is you still got assets to get a QB next year or be in better shape to get a vet like Watson or even Rodgers next year..

It's going to be hard to develop a QB that sees ghosts with a poor offensive line.

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

where the hell did you come from?  Trolling a bit?

This isn't trolling. It's a factual problem the Panthers have right now. Sam needs an offensive line to even have a chance at turning it around. They need to somehow hit it big tomorrow or trade for a LT to give Sam a real shot.

5 minutes ago, ATLpanther said:

It’s pretty funny watching half of this group jump of a bridge about decisions made by the new regime and they haven’t the slightest clue what they are talking about. Bunch of miserable fugs on here that think they are GM of the year. More like BM of the year

Sometimes people have opinions, and there are places to discuss them called open forums.

6 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

The 2015 defense was one of the most overrated of all time. Bend don't break is all we had those years. 2013 was the only elite year.

The irony of the 2013 defense is that we had UDFA/Nobodies across the secondary.

1 hour ago, Stumpy said:

Hence why he said rarely. It happened once, maybe twice.

It's because it's entirely difficult. Trying to build an elite defense is very very very difficult. You essentially must hit on late round all-pro talent to achieve it (Panthers 2013, Seahawks). It's so costly to draft a defense high and try to keep them all signed, almost impossible.

Just now, SizzleBuzz said:

Interesting...

...but Deshaun Watson would? 

He was considered a lock until the other stuff became public knowledge.

I mean we really don't know what Deshaun thinks. I may be wrong, but I feel like Rodgers, being his age, will not go to a team without franchise pieces across the line.

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Guess we can dispense with the dumbass narrative that Darnold was just a fallback in case we couldn't get someone better, huh?

We tried to trade with Miami, and tried trading for Mathew Stafford. It's not really dumb, more of a fact.

Now that Sam is the only option we need an offensive line badly to keep him from seeing whatever ghosts he has.

Just now, TheCasillas said:

there are still 6 more rounds to go.... This is a very deep o-line class. 

No you're right it is, but man it's going to be trade up city tomorrow, and the top of them are going to get scooped.

For Sam's sake I hope they work on some form of a trade just to insure that whoever they're targeting tomorrow makes it to us. Otherwise we need to seriously think about trade options for established players.

We're stuck with Sam now, and we really need to give him a offensive line.

No troll, hate me all you want (whomever), but this is a necessity. We can't do what we did with Cam and have no-names, defensive tackles, and UDFAs protect Sam.

25 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

And we still might not had the "position that matter most" if we drafted who you wanted them to draft.. 

Again alot of you ppl just weren't getting the signal.. They really liked Darnold and other then Stafford, Watson, Lawrence, and Wilson they were good with him over any other QB in this draft...

I just don't see how they really like Sam, but aren't putting him into a position to shake his ghosts. I hope they find a LT tomorrow.

1 minute ago, Agent Blue said:

i went and looked at all our OL pff grades.

most were like 40ish

only Moton had a good grade.

everyone else was mostly below average

 You are correct.

Just now, Panthercougar68 said:

you're looking at players. It was 18th overall at the end of the season.

You're assuming out offensive line is the same as last season.

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

We're not trading for Rodgers.

Hell, he doesn't even want to play here.

Rodgers would never think about coming to a team with this caliber offensive line.

I hope to hell we do something great tomorrow, because right now I feel bad for Sam. I think people are under the impression the line improved from last season, but really unless we're lucky it looks like we're going into the season with quite a lot of questions, and retreads.

2 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

No he wasn't lol. Darnold would be a top 3 pick in this draft nd they have gone over this already many times lol.

Please watch his games, please.

Just now, Snake said:

Yeah it was a good pick but unless I didn't see something skipping over Fields was a huge mistake. They really must be sold on being able to fix Darnald.

The problem is that the pick kind of makes me feel like they're throwing Sam even further under the bus.

Reasoning is Sam had a good LT, and arguable okay offensive line last year, from what I've seen. This year he's going to have question marks all over the line. If they really wanted Sam why not take the tackle? We can always push the idea until tomorrow, but that's the idea that the Panthers stumble into a LT tomorrow feels far too hopeful (coming from the years of waiting for a LT to fall to Carolina for Cam).

Building a defense isn't going to help Sam Darnold. Not when he's getting blindsided.

In a odd way I feel like the Panthers aren't sold on Darnold, and really are just trying to pick the safest player they think was on their board.

Just now, WOW!! said:

Why???

Why not? Quarterback is the most important position in all of sports. Why not take shots?