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25 minutes ago, frankw said:

Logically you would think with us having a former LB for our GM that we wouldn't have to overpay an FA who peaked in a contract year and whose team seems to have no interest in retaining his services. I mean I do like the player but there's a whole world of middle ground between liking him and paying him 20 million a season. It seems like some folks are too eager to carry water for anything Morgan does. We've already done this with past GM's.

100%. If you can’t even scout your own position that you played, then are you really a skilled talent evaluator? That’s why the Trevin Wallace pick was so disappointing. Along with the lackluster ILB FA signings he’s whiffed on. Every coach, player, etc has their own “identity” aka something they are good at and can always hang their hat on. Same with a good GM. Idk what that is for Dan Morgan. There’s not one thing I can point to that exudes confidence regarding Dan Morgan’s personnel decisions. Hopefully he proves me wrong. 

Do we really want to pay an ILB 20 mill a year coming off his first elite season? Jags didn’t even pick up his 5th year option.. Why not? Fred Warner makes 21 mill. Roquon Smith makes 20 mill. Lloyd doesn’t deserve to be in that range. Hard pass. There’s so many other options at ILB this offseason. 

No way they'd accept XL for Thomas straight up. Thomas has actually proven he can be a WR1 despite his down year. We'd prob have to throw in a 3rd as well 

3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Supposedly, his college coach (defensive coordinator) Jim Leonhard is the new Defensive Coordinator in Buffalo.  Matt Milano and Shaq Thompson (starters) are free agents.   Buffalo will switch to a 3-4 and will seek LBs.  I predict that Leo Chenal goes there.  In college, he flourished under Leonhard who used him aggressively in the blitz packages.  

So I dunno.  Buffalo is over the cap, but nothing they can't work out.  I predict he becomes a Bill, but money talks.

I agree with you about Devin Lloyd.  Every year, there are players who command more money than they are worth.  Morgan needs to stay in his lane.  

Plus, the fact that the Jags didn’t pick up his 5th year option begs the question why not? A little strange for the projected top FA ILB, former 1st rounder to not have his 5th year option picked up. Maybe they know something that we don’t? Also, he saved by far his best season for a contract year.. Maybe it’s all nothing and he turns out to be a great FA signing, but there’s a few things with Devin Lloyd that would make me hesitant to pay him 20 mill a year. 

4 minutes ago, strato said:

 Have listened to a few too, and they are kind of running together. 
I just hesitate to have confidence in a 3rd or 4th round rookie starting at C. 

I don't disagree. Morgan has had multiple chances to address center in the draft. It's finally catching up to him 

2 minutes ago, strato said:

Who calls it a strong C draft? I heard the opposite so curious. I can’t cite a source and you don’t have t just asking if there is one or if that is your opinion.  

 

I do think that if teams get Mayes and stick him in between weak guards they may regret it. And think ours will benefit a guy. 

 

Daniel Jeremiah was talking about the depth at center during the OL workouts. I've heard it a few other times as well while listening to draft podcasts. There isn't a Tyler Linderbaum level prospect, but a lot of good 3-5th round centers. 

We are 100% drafting a C to start. (Jones, Hecht, Law, Slaughter) I'm sure it's been Dan Morgan's plan all along. I find it smart because it's an EXTREMELY strong center draft. I'm glad Morgan recognizes that. You can't keep everyone in a salary cap world. Also, let's stop pretending that Cade Mayes was an "all world" center. He was solid, but not great. Let some other team give him 8-9 mill a year 

7 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I love the mullet but he's stiff and slow. I'm curious to see where Baun, I think that it was who i noticed is projected. I haven't looked into the oline yet so I  am just now looking into them. I think there may be someone who we can snag in the 4th.

I feel like the 3rd or 4th might be a sweet spot for our next starting center. Theres some solid centers that should be there when we're on the clock. 

Gennings Dunker is a guy I’ve grown to admire while watching the NFL Combine. Moves great, looked fantastic in drills. One of the highest graded PFF OT’s in college football over the past few years. Plus, he’s got the look too with that mullet Lol. 

Devin lloyd is too expensive when you consider other alternatives that would provide us with similar production. I'd much rather have Leo Chenal. He should be much cheaper 

26 minutes ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

 

For me it would be like getting underwear at Christmas.  Sure you probably need it and it will be extremely useful but there is no wow factor.

Definitely not arguing with you.  Just my .02

When you take the process oriented approach, you rarely get the wow factor. I still see this team 2-3 years away from a legit SB contender. The goal is to slowly but surely build the roster with great players that you know will be impactful. Give me a clean prospect like Thieneman over a guy like Faulk who has the measurables but lacks production. I use Faulk as an example since we met with him. Faulk scares the hell out of me. Not a fan. Calculated risks that might give you the “wow factor” are necessary at times, but not in the 1st round imo. Esp not for the Panthers. 

I wouldn’t complain if we drafted Dillon Thieneman at #19 and finally fix the FS black hole we’ve had for so long. He’s a natural cover 3 FS. 

10 minutes ago, firefox1234 said:

 

Damn! Who expected this athleticism from Jacob Rodriguez?

29 minutes ago, firefox1234 said:

 

David Bailey is going to be a game wrecker. Love his tape. His measurables are just icing on the cake. 

Hopefully we stay away from Cashius Howell. 

Sheesh. These allegations are extremely serious… Funny that the Falcons traded their #13 pick for this guy lmao 

5 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

Is Chanel that much better than Roseboom? His stats are comparable and there is a projected big market for his services.

Chanel PFF grade 75.1. 18th/88 LB’s

Rozeboom PFF grade 47.9. 75th/88 LB’s

Max Iheanachor is my guy after the Senior Bowl. Dude completely dominated and has the potential to be a franchise LT. had a great season too. I’d rather go 1st round OT. 2nd round LB. Sign Leo Chanel as well

I’d love for us to take a hard look at ASU’s LT Max Iheanachor. He dominated Senior Bowl practice and the game. 

Please sign Leo Chanel Dan Morgan. 

I love Tyson. I think he will be fantastic, but would we really pay 3 young WR’s 2nd big money contracts down the road? Seems like a poor allocation of resources in a salary cap word if we plan on keeping TMac and Coker long term. 

8 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We've still fuged up in the past going "BPA". We drafted Butler at DT and Shaq at LB when DT and LB were some of our biggest strengths of the roster. Butler was a flat out bust and Shaq was basically a JAG starter at LB. I know that triggers some folks, but sorry that's just the truth. We overdrafted him then doubled down on that and overpaid him.

 

Obviously BPA is not 100% bulletproof. Even professional card counters still lose at times. Over a long duration though, it’ll give you better draft classes.  Butler was only Gettleman’s BPA. Noone else had him rated that high. 

This team simply needs more blue chip talent which is why BPA is the only way to go. It’s the best way to sustain long term success 

2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Check out Cincinnati's Golday.   I am seeing Lukish qualities (smarts, size, speed, etc)

This is the way. He’s no Luke, but who is? Golday is one of my draft crushes. I’d love him in the 2nd. 

19 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What does Aidan Fisher's draft stock look like? Looks like a player to me.

Go watch him on that long TD run by the Miami RB. Yikes.