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4 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Not much different tbh. If Graham is there he’s still a good pick. Brown/Brown/Graham in 3-4 looks with Wharton on a frequent rotation.  LDE/Brown/Brown/Graham or LDE/Brown/Graham/D Brown on 4-3 looks.  Clowney can be that LDE for now.  We don’t have much in the way of pass rushers for either set as of now, nor LBs. 

I still see McMillen as a strong option if he’s there, I’d probably rather that than dropping $35mil a year and draft picks on trading for a #1 WR. I like XL, I have faith he’ll develop, but giving him a strong running mate would boost that development (Thielen has been great but he’s not the best complement to XL nor a long term solution.)

Im not crazy about the CBs in this draft. I’d only want Johnson or someone if we trade down quite a bit. 

Still not completely sold on Walker but if they take him I’ll get on board. Same with any of the pass rushers. 

We still need a good Safety but I doubt any are worth a top half 1st rd pick. 2nd round on I hope we take one. 

Do we really think Dan Morgan wants his 18 million DT as a rotational player? Also, what about in Nickel when only two DT’s are on the field? Yes, we run a 3/4 but casual fans don’t realize how often NFL defenses are in Nickel with how pass happy the league is. That’s just a lot of $$ on the sideline watching when we’re in desperate need for help in other places.. We don’t have the luxury to hoard DT’s when we lack talent at LB, edge, CB, WR, Safety, TE, RB etc. I’m a huge Graham fan, but I’d be stunned if we take him given how much money we have invested in DT. 

This is prob my favorite signing of the day tbh 

7 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

I’m still taking Graham if he’s there.

How many DT’s do we need? We already have D Brown, Wharton, Bobby Brown, A Robinson, Tuttle, Ray all under contract. That would be a poor allocation of resources with how many other holes we have. That’s a lot of $$ on the sideline watching. 

Dollar Tree signing time. 

Raiders fans saying we massively overpaid.. I feel like we panicked after losing Milton Williams and threw way too much money at this guy 

Can’t wait see what the number is 

Would’ve been nice to get him around 23.5 million under Surtain.. I’m always left feeling like we over payed with literally every signing for the past few years under Dan Morgan. I get that we pay the “bad team tax” but I still question Morgans and Brandt Tillis negotiating skills time and time again 

I’m fine with it. He’ll be the 3rd highest paid DB here pretty soon once Sauce and Stingley get their deal. Best to get ahead of them. 

13 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

 

I’ll be surprised if he makes an opening day roster for another NFL team. I never thought he was an NFL caliber RB

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

You mean like Danielle Hunter who had 4.5 sacks in three years at LSU and has had 37 sacks over the last three years in the NFL?  In fact, he has 99.5 for his career.

I can go down the list with double digit sacks in college and give you a list of busts.  Stewart has dropped 30 pounds.  He has athleticism.

Just to play devils advocate, Danielle Hunter was pick #88.. Picking a player similar to Hunter’s profile at pick 8 is extremely risky. 

I’d rather have Osa Odighizuwa from the Cowboys. Similar player who wasn’t carried by the elite Eagles D-line. Probably cheaper. Only 1 year older. 

8 hours ago, countryboi said:

Both of these guys raise significant red flags. Mykel is extremely raw, and Georgia tends to send out these elite athletes with the assumption that they'll figure it out. As for Stewart, his production is alarmingly low. How does someone with all those traits and abilities manage to record only 1.5 sacks?

If these are the only players left I would draft back or draft Tyler Warren

And he had 1.5 sacks each of the last 3 seasons. It’s one thing to have a fluke season of a low sack rate, high pressure rate, but he struggled to get sacks every single year…Plus, if’s not like he’s getting crap coaching and resources, He’s at a top tier power 5 football school. A guy like Walter Nolan had more sacks in 1 season at a harder position to get sacks at than Shemar Stewart had in his entire career.
 

Can he be a stud? Yes. Do I want to the Panthers to be the team to play Roulette with him? Nah, I’m good. I’d much rather trade back, pick up an extra 2nd and pick up Landon Jackson or Prince from Ole Miss. Both guys have elite traits (not as high has Shemar) but way more production then Shemar. Best of both worlds at a cheaper price. 

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Spending mega bucks in free agency for a second straight season would be a bad sign.

That’s what happens when you consistently draft like poo. 

Both aren’t ideal imo, but give me Shemar Stewart over Mykel Williams. 

Not a huge fan. Lacks athleticism. I’d rather rebuild the TE room another way unless they take a 6th or 7th but I highly doubt they would accept that 

He ran a 4.52. Wasn’t expecting that from him. I’d be ok with it 

I’ve really liked what I’ve seen from Ty Robinson, Aeneas Pebbles, Joshua Farmer during their workouts today. Great day 2 and 3 prospects who move extremely well, plus good tape and production to match. 

Jeanty is one hell of a RB. I’m really looking forward to watching him play, but it won’t be in a Panthers uniform. I’d love to draft a RB in the  5th in this extremely deep RB class, so I get your sentiment. 

15 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

 

Bro you are missing a huge part of the draft ranking- projections and upside.

Walker is nuclear off charts for those two key points. 

How will projections and upside make him grow 3 inches taller? Again, I like Walker. Just not at 8. Too much of a tweener. That's coming from a guy who has watched a lot of his game film, not just his highlight tapes. I like my top 10 picks to have the proper physical traits. As Bill Parcels said “Big men win you football games” I’d like to stay away from the exceptions, not the rule. I’d rather just sign a guy like Nick Bolton in FA to play ILB even if we have to overpay a little bit. He would be perfect  

Ideally, we need  a pure edge at #8. There is no edge prospect at 8 that is worth the pick. It would be a major reach So, then what? Daft BPA at a position that makes sense for the team. Johnson, Tet, Warren would be those guys in my opinion. 
 

But since the Panthers always draft on potential and upside, I fully expect Jalon Walker to be the pick. If so, I hope he becomes a stud. I’ll gladly eat my crow if he turns out to be the player a lot of you think he will become. At the end of the day, I just want to see this team win. 

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

good thing you clear your nfl mock draft history, your wife may find it and go ballistic.  Good advice

 

But please just link one mock draft where he goes in the second, this shouldnt be hard since you have seen numerous examples

Ignore this guy. This keyboard warrior would rather focus on “got ya” moments than actually have a healthy debate about a player. Tbh I’m surprised he hasn’t been banned yet. Dude is either a troll or has serious mental health issues.  But tbh, I’ve also seen mocks of Jalon Walker in the 2nd. 

13 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

He's not a hybrid. There are 4 defensive players in the top 10 are a DE/edge, DT/DE, ILB/DE, and a Corner. The first 2 will not make it to us. The ILB will be picked before the corner. 

He definitely is a hybrid. 1st down- 5 yards off the ball ILB. Passing situations- edge. That’s the proper way to use him. UGA even used him as a hybrid. We must have different definitions. I like Walker. I think he’s a good player. I just think there’s better options at #8. Only time will tell.

7 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Of course he's an ILB. That's what his position would be here. 

To take an ILB at #8, he better be a transcended player like a Luke Kuechly. Jalon Walker is not in that stratosphere. The value just isn’t there. There’s a handful of ILB like Barrett Carter, Demetrius Knight Jr, Chris Paul Jr that will be available in third round I really like and would present way better value. At #8? Give me a Will Johnson, Tet, Warren over a hybrid LB. 

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

none, I focus my attention on high school flag football games

Here’s the keyboard warrior at it again lol. Once again, have you actually watched his film? If so, what was your take away? Or are you going to stick to immature insults?

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

lol

Great insight. How many of his games have you watched?