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Just now, ForJimmy said:

True and people thought the Bucs were tanking for Caleb before the season started. Canales and Baker proved that wrong too. Preseason projections are simply educated guesses. 

Agree. And it goes to show the tables could be flipped next year and we end up looking like the better long term spot. A year ago today nobody wanted to be the QB the Texans drafted. Now everyone is like what a great spot that was to go to. A year ago Carolina was the best spot for a QB to go to, and now everyone is like we have no support system here and it's terrible. 

I don’t care anymore. I’ll just hope for results. 

On 1/20/2024 at 6:39 AM, OldhamA said:

He went to Alabama - their S&C programme wouldn't look out of place in the NFL. 

Yet Mac Jones and Tua aren’t in incredible shape and Bryce is underweight. Bama might have the facilities but their QBs don’t really look to partake in the weight room or the diet and conditioning programs. 

37 minutes ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

Which is fine, if everyone stops acting like he is a godly qb. He had a nice Dak/Mac/Baker rookie year

He has the best rookie year of all time, arguably. How many rookies lead the league in passing yards per game as well as TD to INT ratio? While also winning their division? With a rookie playcaller? With a rookie head coach? 
 

It’s just one person. CJ Stroud. 

1 hour ago, rayzor said:

It's the best course of action for our situation, though.

Give him a good QB coach and. Good OC that can give him a chance to develop and if Bryce still can't do it, use your early first rounder in 2025.

Yeah this is the only path forward, honestly. Get the best possible surrounding cast in terms of players and coaches and if he still can't hack it then we move on with a high pick. 

2 hours ago, fanpanther said:

I agree below is his stats before Stroud.  He was an afterthought stroud powered him to his best year ever by far.  Texans receivers on paper at the beginning of the year looked arguably worse than the panthers at the beginning of the year, but a great QB makes things happen. 

And you can do this for the others, too. For the most part.

Before this season Nico Collins never had a 100 yard game in the NFL.

In 5 years with the Cowboys Dalton Schultz never had a 100 yard game in the NFL. This year Dalton Schultz matched every stats he had in Dallas last year or bettered it. More catches on less targets for more yards. 

Nobody saw Tank Dell doing what he did this year. Absolute monster season by a third round WR. 

In 5 years with the Cowboys Noah Brown never had a 100 yard game in the NFL. He had his most productive NFL year this season and now has a new season high in yards. 7th rounder. 

By the way, none of the Dell, Collins, Brown or Schultz played in all 17 games this year. None of them played 16. So they put up all these stats despite missing two games on the season at a minimum. Brown played just 10 and Dell played 11. The other two played 15. 

Against the same Browns team they just walloped in the playoffs, without Stroud, the Texans attempted 49 passes for just 178 passing yards. Only Dalton went over 50 yards receiving. In the game against the Titans without Stroud it took them 36 passes to get 229 yards. It's not a matter of having any other QB out there. Stroud makes a difference. They didn't forget how to get open for the games he wasn't out there. They didn't not get properly schemed. It was terrible play calls all of a sudden. You still need the guy out there reading the field, moving in the pocket, and hitting his targets downfield. 

This is super embarrassing for us. 

1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I'm not locking this, but at this point you guys should just be Texans fans.

I can't man. It's Panthers for me and that's it no matter how frustrating the experience is. But I am getting used to this anyways. When I was upset we missed out on Herbert by one pick and lamented it I was told go be a Chargers fan. When I said we should have drafted Fields over Horn I was told I should just be a Bears fan. And now with the Stroud stuff its go be a Texans fan. 

I will always be here, at least until I am banned. I am too loyal to team hop like that. I just hope, one of these years, I don't have to lament on who we missed out on but rather just enjoy what we have like when we had Cam and this place was a lot more fun because we were winning or competing every week. Here is to hoping Bryce shows us he is the clearcut guy over the next two seasons! 

On 10/12/2022 at 10:59 AM, SCO96 said:

 

It matters b/c Ohio State QB;s never pan out in the NFL. I'm 51 years old and can clearly remember EVERY NFL SEASON since 1979. That's over 40 years worth of games. I've seen a lot of players come and go. In that time span OHIO STATE has never produced a successful NFL QB.

If Stroud fell to us in the draft and a great OC or HC was leading the offense I "might" could support taking him. No way would I lose games intentionally to draft him. It seems like whenever a team needs a QB, everyone feels they need to grab a QB in the top 10 if they have the pick. Unfortunately, the colleges simply don't put out "franshise" QB's every year. Take look at the link below to see just how many 1st rounder have flamed out in the pro after they were taken in the 1st round.

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

Don't read the entire chart (unless you have a bunch of time). Just start at 2010. Most of the first rounders don't pan out. If a QB is good we should take them, but we can't afford to reach at that position.

PS: That chart goes back to 1937. I bet you won't find one Ohio State player who excelled in the NFL as a quarterback.

Good point. Definitely draft based on school. 

I told yall exactly what we needed to do back in October of 2022.
 

4 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

That's why you can only take the Huddle Hot Takes with a grain of salt. Tua is a fine NFL QB who had a rough night on the road in one of the toughest environments to play in. But these numb skulls will try and paint a definitive picture after 1 bad game, or season and think they have a clue what they're talking about

It’s a hot take to judge Bryce on his entire body of work as an NFL QB? 

So tired of all the coping. Move on. We got who we got. Nobody is still picking Bryce over CJ in a redraft. 
 

Watch Bryce objectively without comparing him to CJ. He looked like one of the worst QBs in the NFL this year. He’s got a lot to work on this offseason and I hope he’s a lot better next season. 

Dude had a winning record with Mason Rudolph, Duck Hodges and some other random dude like two years ago. He finds a way. 

1 hour ago, PanthersGTI said:

As other have said IMO this is an Andy Reid situation all over again if it happens. His time in Pittsburgh ran out but he is still a great coach.

I don’t think the Chiefs are going to hire Andy Reid. He’s a retread and nobody likes retreads… 

oh wait 

Hire Tomlin right now. 

It’s not a first overall pick. It’s also not equal to DJ Moore, plus Darnell Wright, plus Tyrique Stevenson, plus the first overall pick this next season plus whatever comes from that. 

Just now, electro's horse said:

It's the bears

they're going to fug it up. 

They are +2 wins over last season after dealing with us. We are -6 right now. They are showing improvement. We are currently, actually, what your head thinks of the Bears. 

1 hour ago, Wundrbread33 said:

“All I did was call them an asshole. I didn’t say it in a positive or negative light. If someone doesn’t want to be an asshole, then don’t. If you want to be one, that’s cool, too.”

 

 

Assholes can be cool so yeah. It’s all about perception. Bandwagoners have their place. 

1 hour ago, Wundrbread33 said:

How about instead, let’s not negatively label someone as a bandwagon fan, who literally isn’t one. They have essentially been a panther fan from the jump, so clearly they aren’t that. 
 

Someone is literally trying to improve their short life, by pruning negative poo, in favor of something potentially better aligned with their family flourishing. 
 

Just because we can’t escape this shitshow, it doesn’t mean we have to fully embrace sadism. 

I am allowed to call out what it is. I said it was a bandwagon rider definition. I didn’t say it in a positive or negative light. If somebody doesn’t want to be a bandwagon fan, then don’t. If you want to be one, that’s cool, too. 

4 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

If they choose the Eagles, and then bounce once the Eagles aren't good anymore, then that’s a bandwagon fan. 
 

27 years means they’ve been through the ups and downs, but I feel for OP because this down feels different, hopeless, and we have an owner who broke the team. 
 

That doesn’t fit a derogatory label like “bandwagon fan” to me. 
 

You can not like it, but this person isn’t like a Cleveland, then Miami, then Laker fan who follows Lebron around. 
 

Need different labels for that. 

I mean we would have to see who he jumps to. Does he pick the Eagles, Chiefs, 49ers? If he picks some meh team like Cleveland or Denver then I wouldn't say it's bandwagon riding. To each their own. I don't see the offense to the term when it fits with what he was saying. 

4 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Eh, when prefaced by 27 years of diehard loyalty I think not. This is like getting a divorce after the kids go to college and playing the field a little. 

Id get it if he said he was done watching NFL lol. But the switch to another team that makes you happy makes it weird. Like do you just bounce from team to team each year based on if they are winning? You arent going to be happy while losing 

1 minute ago, MGH1989 said:

CJ got to see how the other half lives today and now the dudes who said he would be playing good in these circumstances are back tracking lmfao. 

To be clear:

1. You are basing this off of a game you didn't watch. You looked at the box score. 

2. You are basing this off of one game and somehow have the ability to determine who is good or isn't despite the fact you still think Bryce isn't part of the problem. 

3. Who is backtracking? There's three replies to you and nobody backtracked. 

4. You couldn't provide any quotes. 

5. You have had way too much to drink today. Log off. 

Just now, Martin said:

The concern is real for especially Williams. Can he function within the pocket in the NFL? I feel we’ve seen more of Maye in the pocket.

For sure. I think the Bears look to find a team that wants a QB and makes a trade back and adds to the WR room, Oline or dline with the pick. Snags a second with theirs and if they are bad again next year they look to replace the QB. 

This is the literal definition of a bandwagon rider lol .

2 minutes ago, osd22 said:

 

I never thought this was possible, but I am cancelling the Panthers with immediate effect. I will find a team that gives my family and me joy on Gamedays. 

1 minute ago, MGH1989 said:

I was told CJ would thrive in an offense like this...

Pull the quotes where people were saying he would thrive here. I recall people saying he would look better than Bryce. 

9 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Come on. He CAN make the throws. He just isn't. No excuse on a few of them. Gotta give your receiver a chance to make a play.

I think his confidence is shot. He needs a restart to get out of his head. 

And honestly these receivers are really, really bad.

 

Restart worked for Wilson. Sit Bryce for a week or two at this point.