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On 3/23/2024 at 10:34 AM, Jackie Lee said:

 

6 hours ago, MHS831 said:

A:  418

Q:  How many receiving yards did both Michael Gallup and Jonathan Mingo (as a rookie) have in 2023? 

Gallup targets: 57

Mingo targets: 85

$5m max makes me think his salary is probably around the vet min ($1.125m) and incentives to get it up to $5m tied to production. 

Ridley put up worse numbers than DJ Moore last season with a better QB/offensive structure around him and got $50m guaranteed (when DJ signed his deal it was $62m with $41m guaranteed). Not to mention he missed an entire season.

Can't believe we traded DJ away ugh. 

11 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

Just realized Miles Sanders is still here, right? Lol

I think you might as well hang onto Sanders for this season and see what he can do if healthy behind this revamped line and scheme (Reich/Brown's offensive scheme was awful) given his $4m base salary for 2024 is guaranteed. If he sucks again, we can cut him after the season and only take on ~$3m in dead cap. 

Queen to the Steelers - so much for that

If we land Queen (former DRotY and 3 years younger than Luvu), no one will care about losing Luvu. Burns was a sunk cost, knew he was gone at this stage. Bell and YGM are JAGs.

Rumors are Henry to the Ravens is a done deal

Basically a 2-year deal at $13.5m per with zero dead cap hit if we want to get out after that. Good business, solid signing.

They're not going to bench the 6th overall pick going into his 3rd year. They're putting Icky next to a strong interior and are going to see if last season's stinker of a season was due to a bad scheme and a revolving door interior. If he sinks this season, they'll replace him as a starter. But he's going into the 2024 season as the starter at LT.

$26.5m signing bonus

eye watering number there

$27m per for Wilkins, that Brown contract is going to be eye opening

edit: I don't think the Panthers are going to be able to afford both Brown and Burns. Think one is gone.

18 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Here is his current deal.  Let's see how much that changes.

edit: nvm

Mike Brown was gonna let Carson Palmer rot on his couch unless he got exactly what he wanted in a trade. I don't think Higgins is going anywhere - his best hope is that another team does him/his agent a solid and negotiates a deal that Cincy will then match. 

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

They have to extend Moton now, and that is not a bad move anyway.  They need to sign a G in free agency, maybe a CB.  They need to hit on 2 WRs in the draft.  Since drafting Steve Smith, I am not sure I can think of 1 in 20 years.

I mean I would say DJ Moore was a hit. Then we decided to trade our only proven WR in a trade up for a young QB instead of trading Burns. That was dumb.

I think 5 years, $27m per is fair value, if not a slight overpay. Burns can negotiate with other teams under this tag, so let's see what the rest of the league is willing to pay him...

2 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Brown was a Rhule/Hurney pick.

There isn’t a single pick in 3 Fitterer drafts where I’d say we want to extend that player on an 2nd deal and that we got plus value for the pick. You could say Hubbard or BC, but they are absolutely replacement level players and a guy like Hubbard is a backup on every team except the idiot team that thought Miles Sanders was worth the biggest RB FA deal.

I was responding to the rankings of players drafted with Tepper as an owner. With Fitt as GM, yeah, it's looking pretty terribad.

On 2/23/2024 at 4:48 AM, cardiackat88. said:

Name your top three players drafted since Tepper bought the team.....

Went back and...YIKES

1. Derrick Brown - far and away best player drafted under the Tepper regime

MASSIVE GAP

2. Jaycee Horn? Elite flashes when healthy but that's only like 30% of the time

3. ...Chubba Hubbard? Brady Christensen? 

On 2/22/2024 at 11:17 AM, LinvilleGorge said:

As of right now? Worse than nothing. Like we would've literally been better off to have just sat it out. Gave our picks away. At least we would still have DJ Moore and #1 overall.

Yeah, I try to be optimistic, and I hope Bryce looks better with the new coaching staff, but woof. We could've just re-signed Darnold or started Dalton as a bridge QB, drafted Carter/Darnell Wright/Peter Skoronski with the 9th pick, kept DJ and probably get one of Williams/Maye/Daniels this year. Regardless of how this draft pans out (with the exception of Bryce becoming a superstar), the opportunity cost was massive and tracking to being an absolute disaster.

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I get all that but it would be nice for once to go the home grown route instead of going for a quick expensive fix.  I just wish we would do a rebuild the right way for once.

 

Sure he is a good wr but I think bryce needs a speedster not another big body a la mingo.  

We tried the homegrown route with WRs many times and the only real one we hit on since Smitty we traded away.

Look at all the WR busts or nonfactors we've drafted in the first 3 rounds since we hit on Smitty (leaving out Mingo because it's too early to tell but early returns were pretty meh):

• Terrace Marshall (2nd round)
• Curtis Samuel (2nd round)
• Devin Funchess (2nd round)
• Kelvin Benjamin (1st round)
• Brandon LaFell (3rd round)
• Armanti Edwards (3rd round)
• Dwyane Jarrett (2nd round)
• Keary Colbert (2nd round) 

I think you have to pick it up. If he finally stays healthy and plays to his level, you'll be looking at a franchise tag/contract extension at a much higher number.

11 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This year honestly needs to be all about evaluating Bryce. Is he the guy or not. You need an answer by the end of this year. I have a strong inkling to what that answer is gonna be, but Tepper has to GTFO of the way and let the football people make that call.

Can he do what Mahomes did tonight? Can he put a team on his back on the biggest stage and drag them across the finish line? If no you need to keep looking. Because we just saw a really good game manager on a STACKED team come up short because the other team had a dude. It's really that simply. You have a dude or you need to be looking for a dude.

I mean while I'd love a Mahomes-level talent at QB, let's not forget that if potentially any one of Greenlaw tearing his Achilles running on to the field, Moody getting an XP blocked, a punt hitting a 49er in the leg, the Chiefs recovering 5 (!) of their 6 (!!!) fumbles in the game go the other way, you could've easily seen Brock Purdy SB winning QB. The 49ers were extremely unlucky last night and still arguably should've won the game.