bigdog10

Some of y’all are so scared to make a move it’s embarrassing. 
 

We should be the favorites in our division so we’d likely be trading a pick in the twenties next year to go get the guy that this fully capable staff can develop. 
 

I see some of the same posters praise the coaching staff and Fitterer and Morgan in one thread and then completely panic in the next thread about going into next years draft without a first round pick. You’re either completely risk adverse or all the pomp and circumstance your shouting about the front office and new staff is a front. 
 

trading away next years first in exchange for a rookie qb on a rookie deal that allows cap space to be used in free agency to build a competing roster while they rookie deal is ongoing is the blueprint. 
 

if this collection of coaches and front office personnel think there’s a talent worth trading multiple picks for, I’m on board. 

I don’t know, but for the first time in forever, I have hope. 
 

I would trade 9, the Rams 2024 first and the Rams 2025 first for the number one pick. 
 

Oh wait.....

If it weren’t for the PSL system, the panthers would easily be in the bottom five average attendance number and would be contemplating putting tarps in the upper deck. 

If the Bears asking price is 9, the two seconds and next years first; we should absolutely make the deal and take Bryce Young. 

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What today has shown me is that somehow Tepper has to get us into the favor of the NFL because... just fuging wow. The officiating today in both games was highly questionable at the most very generous.

Reid vs Eagles

Kelce vs Kelce

its all scripted. Just needs a little nudge from the officials 

It’s crazy to think that had Wentz and Reich not completely botched that week 18 game against a 1 win jags team in Jacksonville, they both go to the playoffs, Wentz probably doesn’t go to Washington to get Rivera’d and Scott Turnered and Reich most certainly doesn’t get fired for a down year in Indy following consecutive playoff trips. 

Really hope he gets a shot somewhere. His accomplishments in his 12 games are hard to overlook. 
 

I do hope when he does get another chance that he squeezes in a bit more aggressiveness into his style. The Tampa game ultimately should have taught him that tough lesson. Had we gone for those fourth downs and won that game, I’d be stunned if he wasn’t named our head coach. 

1 hour ago, trueblade said:

His answer on quarterback:

1. Toughness (mental and physical)

2. Decision maker

3. Accurate passer

4. play maker / elevate team in key moments (3rd down, red zone, 2 minute)

5. X factor / leadership

This should provide a rubric for looking at the rookie QB class.

1. I think he’s gonna love Levis and Young on the toughness aspect. Both of those guys have done some pretty good stuff while being banged up. 
 

2. Big ding to Levis and Richardson here while Young gets a big bump. He should also really like the tape of what Stroud did vs GA. 
 

3. Young is heads and shoulders above the rest here. 
 

4.  AR probably gets most of his consideration from this trait. Young and Stroud not far off either. 
 

5. By all accounts All four of these qbs are solid leaders. 

4 minutes ago, stbugs said:

SMH, I really hope you are trolling, otherwise you are the least knowledgeable person in this forum. You made up that he didn’t win in Indy then you try and pin 4-12-1 on Reich? FYI, there’s 17 games a season now in case you missed that change in 2021. I’m pretty sure in one of your other unintelligible posts that Reich was fired after going 3-5-1 this year. It was Saturday, his replacement that went 1

He’s just inconsistent with his vision. 
 

We trade CMC which signals to the league that were in rebuild mode so we get some amazing offers for Burns and Moore but don’t pull the trigger.  I was fine with him passing on the Moore deal but the Burns trade was too good to be true. We now have to pay Burns top five money to be a fringe top ten defensive end. 
 

We start last year 3-0 beating two of the worst teams in the league and a Saints team ravaged by Covid and all of a sudden we are in win now mode trading for a Gilmore and Henderson. 
 

I worry about his vision for this team and to see it through. 

4 hours ago, Byrdman4real said:

I believe WR will be the pick if staying at 9

Agreed. I wouldn’t be shocked with a pass rusher either. 

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Who are the other three coaches besides Reid that are still in the Super Bowl race?

For that matter, who were last year's Super Bowl coaches?

An incredible amount of recency bias being used here. 

let’s not forget that Zach Taylor was all but fired before Burrow saved his ass last year. The Siriani hire was destroyed by nearly everyone when it was made.  His success is more indicative of the job that Howie Roseman has done than anything he’s had his hands on. 
 

For every Sean McVay, there’s an Adam Gase or a Mike McCoy lurking. For every Kyle Shannahan, there’s a Cam Cameron or a Rob Chudzinski or a Nathaniel Hackett near by. 
 

I’d even argue that McVay and Shannahan are exceptions to this rule due to the tree they come off of. 

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I'm talking about methodology (see above)

I’m not sure Payton is a retread in the same manner your describing and I’d also argue that retreads have had more success recently than not. 
 

McCarthy, Pederson, Reid, Carroll are all retread coaches who have had success this year. 
 

Retread head coaches get a bad rap, but there are some legendary names who have won titles on their next teams. In fact 17/52 Super Bowls have been won by coaches who are retreads. BB obviously skews that number a bit with his six but there is more success going this route than many believe. 
 

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Matt Rhule was the best sales pitch last time.

How'd that work out?

Being able to sell yourself as being good is not the same as actually being good.

Are you really debating if Sean Payton is a good coach and comparing him to Matt Rhule in the process?

I know there is a large contingent of people on here who don’t want him and many (including myself) who are not really fond of the idea of him coming here at the cost of draft capital, but this is a really weird argument. 

Buffalo is a finesse team. It’s why teams like the Jets give them so much trouble. 
 

Buffalos defense is also a bit of a mirage in that their offense can get them out to such a big lead that it leads to other teams having to become one dimensional. 
 

Physical football still wins games. 

I don’t think the Saints have as much leverage as everyone thinks they do. Payton’s not gonna allow his future team to be gutted before he steps foot at the podium. He can just kick back and work Fox for another year until his contract is up and then the Saints get nothing for him. 
 

He’s going to get to pick where he goes and will have a say in that compensation. I actually believe him when he says he and loomis have discussed compensation. My guess is the team that gets him gives up a second this year and a future first (and that’s as steep as it gets). The value of those two together probably come pretty close to a pick in the 20’s in this years draft. 

I’m not opposed to trading next years first for him. 
 

It presents options in the draft with the 9th pick. We could potentially trade down in the first and pick up a 2024 first for the 9th pick, thus netting Payton for only a 4th rounder. 
 

Despite how I feel about the dude, getting a coach of his quality for a 4th is a slam dunk. 

25 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Then why not announce it?

If this is the case, then I think it's Wilks and they're trying to assemble a rockstar staff to announce with him because they know the fanbase is gonna be pretty lukewarm on this.

My guess is the nfl doesn’t want anyone announcing coaching hires until after this wild card weekend wraps up. 
 

The new hires will dominant the headlines this week in between tonight’s game and next weekends. 
 

I fully expect us to have a new head coach by Thursday. 

I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that Steve Wilks is the 4th best head coach we’ve ever had. 

Steichen. 
 

Guy has had a hand in developing two completely different styles of QB and has had them playing at an MVP level. 
 

We’re gonna need that here. 

I’d like to see the Seahawks and Chargers win today. 
 

The Geno story is awesome and it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if Pete Carroll figured out a way to make Brock Purdy Mr. irrelevant again. 
 

I just can’t pull for the jags to have success. Expansion brother jealousy.