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On 4/26/2026 at 4:13 PM, 45catfan said:

I just saw the funniest thing...or very disappointing, depending how you handle misery. A guy on YouTube did a 2027 'way too early' mock draft.  If I told you the simulator has the Panthers selecting in the top 10 , what would you say?  If I told you it was pick #8 and only two QBs were taken in the top 7, what would you say?  If I told you this dude had us taking a defensive player, what would you say?

If everything played out and that last thing happened, I probably just quit. 

3 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

I noticed that during the draft. I was like man, Lisa Turtle looks like a good one! I remember Ceedee Lamb's girl took it as an opportunity to grab his phone and investigate. He swiftly turned and retrieved it with lightning quick speed.

Lol @ Lisa Turtle. 

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Granted I am super biased about the situation and with the coddling we have seen with BY, I would have been more satisfied with something like "yeah, we picked up the 5th, we know and byrce knows he needs to keep improving and once we feel like his play is good enough and consistent enough we'll talk"

 

but I get it.....

Lol. As long as we are dreaming I would have liked to hear “well the two year option is about as far as we were willing to go, considering how strong the 2027 QB class is looking”.  

yeah I know it would never happen. 
 

But when they do have those internal discussions about the extension, I hope that draft class is part of what they discuss.  Options. 
 

33 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

He's a Temu The Golden Calf of Bristol.

He has the right attitude, he's an absolute dawg and I hated playing against him, but he simply can't throw at an NFL level (unless he's miraculously reworked his throwing motion between December and now)

Yeah. Aside from the questionable arm skill what I see is he lacks the thickness to absorb hits, he won’t hold up as a running QB. So not sure what his path will be.  

46 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

I don't think they had any of the day 2 ilb rated high enough to draft at 49-51 range where they were at. 

Well they were long gone  so haw can that be known? It was clear to me that we couldn’t stay put and get Rodriguez. And what were they to use to move up? 
 

Having Hunter and keeping the rest of the picks to use on these other guys was the right move in that scenario  

The only real pain free way to move up was to trade back in the first  but when Freeling is sitting there that doesn’t look like as good of a plan  

19 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Sans the rushing ability, it reminded me of a classic Jake type game. Not my choice of a franchise guy, but if his talent translates to the NFL level, he could be at least be a viable backup you could win a game with. 

It would be nice if you are right.  

18 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

Ooof, I was not a Proctor fan. I agree w/ a lot of smarter folks than me that he's more of a guard and think his weight fluctuation is going to be something to navigate.

I liked Lomu a lot, but figured there would be more talented guys there at 19.

I also wasn't big on bringing in a TE via the draft. If it's not a vet (Njoku) or a trade for Mayer or Kmet, I'd just as soon see what the youngsters have. No need cluttering the room with more of the same.

I didn’t expect to see Freeling at 19. My plan was move back, take one of the guys that was still there and use the proceeds towards trading up in round two for Rodriguez. 
 

Freeling sitting there blew that all up. I knew there would be no trading up after that. Because don’t mess around, take the gift. 
 

And the ILB that I wanted in the second, over DL, that was me wanting something shiny. I think Hunter probably was the more responsible pick just like Freeling was. 

1 hour ago, Steves89 said:

He s only 31?!? Dang I feel like he was 28 for half my adulthood. Also, why didn’t we kick the tires on him to backup Bryce?

A few people think it is because he would have showed him up. 

1 hour ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Exactly the person I was thinking of as well, but Dart throws a better ball. Regardless, not many men go in to Athens and put up 400 yards and 5 TDs. 

At the same time some of his mistakes are what helped Georgia back in that game. 

He just doesn’t look that appetizing to me. And I am hungry as hell. But I am glad they are at least trying to upgrade from the likes of Jake Plummer. 

25 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

I would say that seems like an odd comment from Morgan, but at the same time it's almost impossible to find a college QB declaring for the draft to have less physical ability than BY so you can assume almost anyone you bring in would be your go to QB sneak/designed run guy. 

He basically said he is here as a QB and then what I said already.
 

It is in the E White video, the first of two posted here

44 minutes ago, MrBubba said:

Well he had essentially a 70% completion rate for almost three thousand yards.  Biggest issues were awkward and inconsistent release.  I wouldn't call arm strength bad, but not great.  

 

The little bit I watched he does look a bit awkward. 
Also just an FYI because I have heard talk saying he will be used like Taysom Hill - Morgan says no he doesn’t see him as having that skill set. 

6 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Gronk, Dallas Clarke, Kittle, etc. all say helloooo

Evans needs this year to see how he grew. Sanders had a sophomore slump. Both are in their evaluation windows and have shown promise.
 

And personally, I do not believe our QB can utilize a stud TE to the point that major investment is warranted. So there is that. 

24 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Yeah I don't get the upward trajectory thing, from year 1 almost all his numbers are the same except TD's went up to 24. INT's are the same, overall yards and ypa are pretty much the same, and that's giving him the benefit out the doubt just looking at stats. As Cam would say he's not a game changer and it doesn't seem like most of us and almost all NFL defenses think he will be either. The only really surprising thing is he hasn't gotten any major injuries aside from the getting benched with ankle sprains

I see him being better and most of that is a few downfield passes that were seemingly non existent. 
 

But it is what is around him that has dictated the trajectory more than the quarterbacking. He is game manager level and unable to dictate to defenses. 
And even if I am wrong and he is the reason we ‘upwarded’, we are bumping our heads on the ceiling and only making meager gains. If it is an incline it is awfully shallow degree wise. Like a finance graph that tracks your progress and hovers around the rate of inflation. Barely breaking even. 
Is that where you want your money? 
We make up these deadlines expectations and generally he does the minimum of what he needs to do to hang around. 
 

It does not encourage me to believe that when we get into a game against a good run d that we cannot break down with our run game, to believe that we can pivot to the air and successfully counter their strategy. 
But they run it back again. Of course I am gunshy of a repeat of the same thing we have watched for three years. 
 

oh, and yes his durability is his most impressive positive for my money. I fear the other shoe dropping on that and the contractual consequences that will follow.  

Last  of all, too late to edit my mistake here but would like to acknowledge it: the last three years has done very little to convince me that I was not wrong in not wanting him. One too many “not”s. 

9 minutes ago, cranky said:

Like I said, just someone's opinion. And I'm not complaining. Not sure why you think I am. I simply pointed out that stating an opinion is simply stating an opinion. Stating that same negative opinion over and over again over the past three years isn't stating opinion any longer, it's complaining. And I'm not griping about it or "complaining" about it. Just stating a truth. Everyone is free to complain all they want. I don't have to read it and usually don't as I've heard all the arguements. 

This groundhog day movie happens because the QB has not removed doubt. And there are commitment decisions on the timeline that put this question squarely in the crosshairs.  And they affect out future.  
For me personally the last three years has done very little to convince me that I was not wrong in not wanting him. We have a few nice games.  Yet now we are committed for two more years.. which in reality is actually only one when looking at the long term future because of the extension question. 

Who the hell wouldn’t over discuss it when the dust has settled from FA and draft day and it is all there is to ponder? It is the main pondering event. 
 

And in the end, arguments in favor of him having shown enough to be the future are simply bereft of enough convincing evidence to stem the tide of negativity over his Short comings. 
 

26 minutes ago, csx said:

Well its back to normal now. After the draft excitement most are back to saying the same things in every thread all day every day.

And it’s going to stay that way until late July at the earliest. So… almost three months. 

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

I dont think Bryce can throw it 70 yards

And that makes you right. 

51 minutes ago, bandu said:

 idk it's just so hard for me  to take this GM serious about winning if he really  thinks Bryce Young is the future at Qb ...just saying 

I guess you could ta’k the perspective of, if he can make a roster that wins with Bryce Young at QB, he is a genius. 

21 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Raiders release LB Jamin Davis(1st rounder)

 

https://www.raiders.com/news/raiders-release-linebacker-jamin-davis-nfl-2026-transactions

 

 

And I think this one is a given -49ers release CB tre'vuis tomlinson(former ram recent 6th rounder)

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/49ers-waive-db-tre-tomlinson

Our waiver position has to be pretty far back in the line.  

30 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

The Bucs collapsed due to huge injuries and the saints were turning it around, just ran out of time. We backed into playoffs losing the two huge games to end the season. To me, waiting to see how he does this season and then discuss contract extension is the smart move. Putting this out in the atmosphere now seems misguided. 

Oh yeah.  And the only way we got in was a sort of miraculous Atlanta streak and their making it a three way tie.  Because we had lost the tiebreaker with TB and were out otherwise.  
 

All those must win games which we couldn’t win, there should be a harsher term than ‘backed in’ to describe our accomplishment. 

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

And oline but all in all it was comical all things considered 

And receivers.  And they just signed a big back. 

5 hours ago, CanadianCat said:

Weird.. some many people here crap on Bryce, yet our HOF LB is impressed with his growth and how the team is handling him.

...Clearly Luke is an idiot and we know better...

He craps on himself through stuff like 54 yards passing.  We just complain about it. 
 

Luke will never crap on a current Panther. He just wouldn’t. And that also likely includes ex Panthers. 

I’ll say it again: if we’d drafted him where he realistically deserved to be drafted he would be an underdog and I would be rooting for him. Except he would be gone already. 

13 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

What has he done to deserve an extension, I don’t understand 

He made the playoffs!

I heard, at least twice and from different sources, about our late season playoff push and the actual words “playoff run”. 
 

And these were media analysts. 
 

I don’t know how these narratives take hold but they do. (It is like big time throws and deep balls lol). 

1 minute ago, frankw said:

Are there some magic beans sitting around somewhere that can give him elite phsyical tools overnight?

More like if you eat those magic beans you will believe he has those tools. 

I would look at them sideways if they took a TE in the second over filling the hole they made by cutting A’Shawn. 

And secondarily (if DL wasn’t really there), placing TE over ILB in that round.  

6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He also said bryce is their guy and they believe in him so who the fug knows what to think at this point

Well, yeah. It is hard to know what is the whole truth is there. 

Like what I said initially, coach speak.  The players are listening.  And that word ‘apparent’, it makes it seem apparent. Still may not be what it seems.